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02-14-06, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by socalrotor
If you think the civic in the pinks show had a chance, you better read the thread. The civic got a head start and was owned by 6 cars. BTW who the **** are you? Like I have said before, FWD is a fight with physics, you might be fast, but FWD is the WORST LAYOUT FOR HANDLING Anyone that argues that is a moron. If you throw enough money at your NEON, yeah it will be fast, but throw HALF that same money on a decent RWD and the RWD will be faster, simple physics. If everything is the same, meaning weight/ HP ,and the driver, FWD will not win. FWD is a waste of time and effort IMO. BTW did Lames show up, and please STOP challenging him to races, he will only end up dead, and being that he is/was my friend it would be a shame. We all know Lames talks out his ***, but he is young and dumb so try to keep that in mind. So for all you MODDED FWD guys, you need to join the special Olympics, cuz even though you might be faster, but your still retarded. I might be talking smack, but I will say the same **** to your face, and back it up with plenty of facts to support my opinion
BTW I will assume that your the L7 with the yellow NEON. If you owned a seven and claim to know berny, why do you run your mouth so ****** much that sevens suck. As for your autocross challenge, your ******* nuts to come here wanting a race. There are MORE THAN A FEW REXES THAT WILL HAND YOUR FWD A NEW *******. Why haven't you ever rolled the NEON out to GMR? I know why, CUZ YOUR ALL MOUTH. Lastly You must be a moron to think that your DD NEON qualifies for a highpowered FWD.........
You really show your level of intelligence with that gem of a statement!!!!!! Best part is you state at the very end that your a "stock NEON owner" . So which BS story are you going with here? 
BTW I will assume that your the L7 with the yellow NEON. If you owned a seven and claim to know berny, why do you run your mouth so ****** much that sevens suck. As for your autocross challenge, your ******* nuts to come here wanting a race. There are MORE THAN A FEW REXES THAT WILL HAND YOUR FWD A NEW *******. Why haven't you ever rolled the NEON out to GMR? I know why, CUZ YOUR ALL MOUTH. Lastly You must be a moron to think that your DD NEON qualifies for a highpowered FWD.........
You really show your level of intelligence with that gem of a statement!!!!!! Best part is you state at the very end that your a "stock NEON owner" . So which BS story are you going with here? WHEN HAVE I EVER TALKED **** ON RX7?? HUH? I HAVE NEVER EVER DONE THAT. Why would i talk **** on a car i plan on purchassing (again) in a few months. what makes you think that i look down on an Rx7? i've been a member of the rx7 crew for over 4 years. and i've been an owner for over 6 years. im all about the "Rx7club knows about you". so what if i met some of the heavy brass among the rotary crew. so what? i haven't ran my mouth at all. all i said is talking **** on FWD purely idiotic.
Have i ever said Fwd could handle better then Rwd? No all i said was it doesnt handle bad at all. but to say a FWD handles like crap is a MAJOR understatment for the True potentual. In my own opinion i think RWD is the way to go honestly. but that doesnt justify to say FWD handles like crap. It doesn't do justice. just because it's front wheel drive it doesn't have to suck *****. To say something like that is purely retarded.
What makes you think i havent TRACKED my own Rx7. HUH? do you think i honestly don't know how well an rx7 can handle?? am i missing something here? im pretty sure i know the rx7 pretty well. i mean i only gone to seven stock 3 times. when to the last 2 hangover runs. went on the endurance run 1once with all the club buddies. i've gone to all the BBQ thrown at the Beach in huntington. i've talked rotary. i've breathed rotary. and i live rotary. for you to say i talk **** flat out RUDE.
as for that civic. it blew a hose clamp. so it lost by 6 cars + position in race. ask dave gibson, he fixed the civic after him and his partner won it. (DID you know Dave Gibson use to race single cam CRX FWD, No.. wait.. HE STILL DOES???) yeah bet you didnt know that.
If front Wheel drive sucks so much why not prove it to me at the track? get any stock t2 and take me for a run of my money. the only point i come with is that FWD doesnt suck completely. How come i didn't go to GMR. i was soppose to with my Evo buddies I hang out with. this last sunday but i had To go to Army Drills that day. so **** happens.
as for my car, it is stock. It was modded before, but i had to put it completely back to stock when i got arrested for street racing. 20 mintues after i just put a cold air intake in it. I am however equiped with a BOV but that doesnt give me any ponies.
so you tell me a FWD car that has more HP Stock from the factory? that has more then 230WHP FROM THE FACTORY.. NOT CRANK HP WHP. now please explain why that's not alot of Hp for a Fwd. and please im talking about stock factory trim.
is it, the nissan altima 3.5s??? nope that's about 210WHP...is it.. the hyundai Tiberon GT? nope.. thats 200WHP. is it the new civic? nope that about 175WHP
now it's your turn to explain to me how i hate i something i love.
02-14-06, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by eatmyclutch
Fwd = Rwd = Awd. You can't argue with that, or else.
not quite.. all things are better in the own ways.
AWD is the champion among traction, but also is the worst among drivetrain loss.
RWD isn't the best in traction, but it isnt the worst among drivetrain loss either.
FWD has the WORST in traction. but is the best drivetrain when it comes to deliver power.
these are some Princpals that are always and or usually true.
02-14-06, 02:37 AM
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Why do apples fall down instead of going up? Well, calculate this: AWD - FWD = RWD and therefore we can deduce that... AWD - RWD = 2WD!!! Trust me, I know I've taken geometry class. It helps. According to the law of physics acceleration due to gravity is 32M/S/S so now the center of mass is higher and is less stable. A force is a push or a pull upon an object which results from its interaction with another object. Forces result from interactions! As discussed in Lesson 2, some forces result from contact interactions (normal, frictional, tensional, and applied forces are examples of contact forces) and other forces are the result of action-at-a-distance interactions (gravitational, electrical, and magnetic forces). According to Newton, whenever objects A and B interact with each other, they exert forces upon each other. When you sit in your chair, your body exerts a downward force on the chair and the chair exerts an upward force on your body. There are two forces resulting from this interaction - a force on the chair and a force on your body. These two forces are called action and reaction forces and are the subject of Newton's third law of motion
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02-14-06, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Blade8r
not quite.. all things are better in the own ways.
AWD is the champion among traction, but also is the worst among drivetrain loss.
RWD isn't the best in traction, but it isnt the worst among drivetrain loss either.
FWD has the WORST in traction. but is the best drivetrain when it comes to deliver power.
these are some Princpals that are always and or usually true.
AWD is the champion among traction, but also is the worst among drivetrain loss.
RWD isn't the best in traction, but it isnt the worst among drivetrain loss either.
FWD has the WORST in traction. but is the best drivetrain when it comes to deliver power.
these are some Princpals that are always and or usually true.
02-14-06, 04:51 AM
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of course i have not lost the sight of the car itself. i was only telling eatmyclutch some principals. then he went on saying "newton sat on a chair law".
also RWD is a compromise between the other drivetrain. it has the best of both worlds and the least of the worst things. the inbetween. the daywalker among vampire. RWD is Awsome YES! Duh i don't have to explain that. remember a compromise can be a good thing too.
so what about midengine, they are still RWD. and still will have less traction then AWD but definatly better then a FWD. also a mid engine will experiance as much drivetrain loss as a FWD. so they are VERY effective and can handle far better then most other drivetrain specifics. it'll beat a FWD out of the water. maybe we should all buy nsx and Mr2.. or even a Mercedies benz smartcar - Forfour.
[*Below i am being sarcastic*]
Maybe we should go along with everyone in the other forums saying rotary is crap.
[ Fin ]
basicly what im trying to say is that we all drive our cars because we like it. who gives a **** if it better or it's not in some way. but we look into ourselves and enjoy what we drive. because of that im not saying FWD is better then RWD. in honest reality a stock t2 will walk circles around my srt-4 in the handleing department. but to that person i said earlyer thar FWD isnt a bad Drivetrain. you can't call FWD Crap. it isnt.
if i were to autocross my srt, I'd definatly be on that rx7's *** thorugh out the run. althoutgh i would have some seroius doubt i can win.
also RWD is a compromise between the other drivetrain. it has the best of both worlds and the least of the worst things. the inbetween. the daywalker among vampire. RWD is Awsome YES! Duh i don't have to explain that. remember a compromise can be a good thing too.
so what about midengine, they are still RWD. and still will have less traction then AWD but definatly better then a FWD. also a mid engine will experiance as much drivetrain loss as a FWD. so they are VERY effective and can handle far better then most other drivetrain specifics. it'll beat a FWD out of the water. maybe we should all buy nsx and Mr2.. or even a Mercedies benz smartcar - Forfour.
[*Below i am being sarcastic*]
Maybe we should go along with everyone in the other forums saying rotary is crap.
[ Fin ]
basicly what im trying to say is that we all drive our cars because we like it. who gives a **** if it better or it's not in some way. but we look into ourselves and enjoy what we drive. because of that im not saying FWD is better then RWD. in honest reality a stock t2 will walk circles around my srt-4 in the handleing department. but to that person i said earlyer thar FWD isnt a bad Drivetrain. you can't call FWD Crap. it isnt.
if i were to autocross my srt, I'd definatly be on that rx7's *** thorugh out the run. althoutgh i would have some seroius doubt i can win.
Last edited by Blade8r; 02-14-06 at 04:54 AM.
02-15-06, 10:36 AM
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naw, the meets are usually chill-- no matter how much **** talking goes on here. Well... i havent been to one in a while so who knows.
just behave kiddies!
just behave kiddies!
