speeddemon32

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Mazpower and GuitarJunkie came over. they tore the front cover off, but now we are waiting for a couple parts to put it all back together, should get the parts very soon, unsure when we will put it all back together.

riceburner1r2001

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what all did u guys have to do

mazpower

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The details are for Casey to disclose, but I'll say that at this point, it looks like the engine painting was the only thing that was paid attention to.

GUITARJUNKIE28

well, the inside of the front cover was nice and clean too

mazpower

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Hehe yeah my bad, forgot about that.

riceburner1r2001

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well casey is it fixed since i cant get a answer. and does this mean the whole motor was taking apart casey. just curious

speeddemon32

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Rice, no it is not fixed. we are waiting on a part now before we put it back together. only the front cover was removed.

GUITARJUNKIE28

we gonna fix the water leak?

riceburner1r2001

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there was a water leak too, i thought it was just oil

mazpower

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Dave would be referring to the fact that Casey can't leave coolant in the system long, cause it leaks past the water seals and into the engine. Which quite frankly, is hilarious considering I've had 2 halfies and Dave's had one too, and our cars are/were daily driveable. Personally my best guess is that whoever did the porting, extended it too far and fubared the water seal area, and basically said "well its a race engine, no need to keep coolant in it" instead of finding another iron and doing it right. I guess we'll find out more if Casey has Dave fix this water leak, and I will reserve full unabashed clowning until I see the internals.

riceburner1r2001

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well its big bridge and if im correct doesnt bridge port seep alittle water. Just asking and the outside ports did fine on mine considering those were my old housing and n great shape.

mazpower

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A big eyebrow cut could extend into the water jacket - like in the case of a J-Bridge, but there are ways of sealing this so you could still keep some coolant in the system. From what Dave and I could feel & see, it seems to be just a normal bridge with little or no notching of the rotor housing. In my humble opinion, if an engine builder was gonna go crazy on the porting and suggest that the coolant be drained when the engine's not running for the purposes of longevity, there'd better be a J-Port in there or something really really big, and it'd be a full bridge & not a halfie. Race motor or not, there's something to be said of an engine that retains some civility.

GUITARJUNKIE28

i've gone through the top water jackets on huge streetports i've done, and neve, EVER had one leak. there is a correct way to "patch" the iron and/or rotor housing when you protrude into the water jacket. whoever did the porting was probably just not paying close enough attention to it. maybe he was just rushing.

riceburner1r2001

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well when i had the housings when they were n my drag motor it didnt leak. and if there was a leak it didnt make a diff cuz it was a drag motor and its a bridge. and it was a fast motor, it pulled up to 9500+.

speeddemon32

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guitar, Maz, the water seals were intentionally cut for bigger porting. he has done it befrore, (just as both of you have) maybe just got unlucky with the sealing of this one???

Rice, what rotating assy were you running in your engine?

GUITARJUNKIE28

you spun an unbalanced engine with the heavy rotors, and a tiny carb to 9500+rpm?

bullshit!

jilongie

hey mazpower, i was wondering what u were doing with that free 240
if it is driveable, i am really interested in taking it off your hands!
couple bills only though, im looking for a beater gas saver to drive around town,
do u know what i mean? anyways let me know man, that'd be cool if this deal
go through

riceburner1r2001

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i had race rotors n it casey

GUITARJUNKIE28

9500 rpm?

let's see the dyno sheet.

riceburner1r2001

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how do u dyno it on the st. we took it on a side st my boss dumped the clutch took it 9500+ i went flying n the back hitting my plexiglass back hatch he grabbed 2 for a quick sec . then he hit the brakes so we wouldnt go onto the main st going that fast and brakes were fading badly

GUITARJUNKIE28

just because you can technically rotate the motor to 9500 rpm's doesn't mean it makes power up there.

mazpower

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Actually I'm giving that KA powered 240 to my friend Sam, to tinker with and use as a track car. Now if you would've hit me up a week ago, I probably would have sold it to you...I ran out of options on where to keep it and Sam was more than interested. Sorry bout that.

mazpower

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On both halfie's that Dave's ported for me, he never went into the water seal area. I know Dave's breached the coolant jacket with some big ports he's run but he's always patched them up with no leaks. He can speak for those better than I can.

I'm not trying to stir **** up Casey. I'm definately not the best engine builder out there by quite a long shot. But I'm a decent person and it sucks to see the predicament you're in. In my opinion, care was not taken with the assembly of your engine, otherwise we wouldn't of seen that nylon washer on the front of the engine (that iron requires a different seal, as Dave told you... look here for Mazdatrix's confirmation), we wouldn't have found a missing front cover dowel, and there would have been some sealant on the oil pan gasket. Things like this are okay for a first-time engine builder, or someone messing with their own engine, but not for an engine builder looking to turn a profit.

Riceburner, how is it possible that you spun this motor up to 9,500? If you used the same rotors that Casey has now, then like Dave has already said, bullshit. According to Casey, those are "truck" rotors - '70s era 13B rotors with no lightening. In other words, 10 pound rotors. I wouldn't be comfortable at the 8K rpm mark with those. I seriously doubt the capabilities of the engine builder, when he builds a "large half-bridge" which will inherently make power in the 7500-8500 rev range, and decides to use unlightened 10 pound rotors. From what I understand, the engine doesn't even have hardened stationaries which were readily available during the build. And now Casey is stuck with an engine he paid to have built correctly, which would quickly self-destruct if it were used in the manner in which it was intended. ****, it couldn't even idle without pissing oil all over the place! You're lucky Casey is a nice guy, cause if it were me, I'd be pulling out all the stops to get my money back.

riceburner1r2001

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u didnt read right i had race rotors not his rotors, (race rotors) just read back upthere again where i said they were different rotors then casey has. The housings he has were mine just not the rotors.

mazpower

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Okay, then I don't doubt your claim, however I still say...

I seriously doubt the capabilities of the engine builder, when he builds a "large half-bridge" which will inherently make power in the 7500-8500 rev range, and decides to use unlightened 10 pound rotors. From what I understand, the engine doesn't even have hardened stationaries which were readily available during the build. And now Casey is stuck with an engine he paid to have built correctly, which would quickly self-destruct if it were used in the manner in which it was intended. ****, it couldn't even idle without pissing oil all over the place! You're lucky Casey is a nice guy, cause if it were me, I'd be pulling out all the stops to get my money back.