All I have to say about the LA law enforcment is they are the biggest gang in LA!!! LASD IMO are the worst. But any beach city cop is just as bad... Loud *** choppers all day, without a wink ?! But god forbid a cat back. Most cops I have encountered are cool until there at work...I think the watch too much Dirty Hairy in the academy. Just My Opinion.

 

what really bothers me is harleys, you never see them getting pulled over for loud exhaust and some of those ******* can wake you up out of a dead sleep in the middle of the night when they roar past your house, i don't remember the last time even a ricer could manage that yet you see them ride past police and they never get harassed for it.

 

Because air cooled engines don't fall under the same rules for noise pollution that our cars do. That's why they can get away with their exhausts being so loud. And yes, I hate it when they go by and deafen me too!!

Zach

 

While stereotypes might not make you happy, they wouldn't be stereotypes if there wasn't a noticeable pattern in the first place. Now that you know the way the system works, you'd better dress like Bill Gates if you want to carry a gun and not get searched.


Why profile enthusiasts? Because they think we're street racers. Why not target other criminals instead? It's simple economics, folks:


What do street racers, common criminals, rapists, and drug dealers have in common? They've broken a law, and can be legally punished for it. So why does the law seem to be singling out such petty crimes as traffic violations?



Why don't they target common criminals (street thug, thief, etc...) in an aggressive manner? Because the punishment for their crimes usually involves jail time and court fees, which cost the state money. This is not financially attractive. Why not change the punishment, charge them fines instead? Most thugs come from poor backgrounds, that's why they steal stuff. They won't (or can't) pay the fines.



Rape is a horrible crime, why not crack down on rapists? Well, it turns out that they're hard to find. It would take a lot of man-power and detective work to catch one rapist. And when they're caught, you've got to spend money putting them in jail and keeping them there, similar to thugs, but the cost is higher because they usually end up with longer prison sentences. Again, it's not financially attractive.



Certainly drug dealers should be an ideal candidate for crackdowns: they earn tons of money selling death to kids. They should be easy enough to find, they sell to certain people in certain neighborhoods. So why don't we see more drug crackdowns? The dealers are too rich. They can bribe cops, hire their own personal armies, or both. Who wants to get shot at when they can get paid to look the other way?


So what will we have our police do? What laws can they safely enforce that will keep them out of harms way and not cost the state tons of money in prison and court fees?


This is where the traffic violations come in. Traffic stops are quick and painless, and earn the state money through citations and fees. There is a very low rate of violence occuring as a result of traffic stops. Street racers are just a subcategory, a small group that the general populus has a disdain for. Most people are annoyed by loud and obnoxious cars.


Unfortuneately, we're a small minority. You're not going to change smog laws, so deal with it. Obey these particular laws, or pay the fines when you get caught breaking them. If you don't like it, move somewhere else.

-s-

 

I'm just glad that I kept my car registered in North Carolina. No SMOG laws to worry about here.

Zach

 

true but i would have to pay the guy what $30 to test then take a day off to go to court and fight it not guaranteeing to get it written off by the judge and i would lose a days pay so all in all i just payed the dam thing one less thing to do

 

when i got the same smog ref ticket, all i had to do was pay the ~400 fine. It said smog ref on the ticket with the number to contact and all. But I just went to court and told the judge I'll pay the full fine. They had no problem with that.

 

wow, i didnt know it was that easy, just pay the full fine. seems to easy, i would think they would still mandate you to go to a smog ref. that way they can impound your car, and if you couldnt pay the X amount(which can be over a thousand) they sell your car and make more money. i bought one of my mustangs for 600bux cuz the owner didnt want to pay the tow yard $1400.

on the other side, if they forced you to go to a smog ref. find someone with a stock rotary and swap it over in a day then go and have him look at it. then swap it back out. it might be a pain, but it would be worth it.

also the reason harelys and street bikes dont get sound pollution tickets is because that sound is a saftey device. for them. lots of stupid *** fu cks on the road. a lot of them dont pay attention, they switch lanes then look, or sometimes dont even look. my dumb GF just uses her mirrors, i guess her dumbass doesnt realize she has a blind spot. one day she wreck her new car and i'll be there to say i told her so. but like i was saying, the harelys are loud so people can hear them coming up. and will be more careful around the bikes. cuz bikes dont crash, they become a pile of metal.

~Steve

ps Best of luck to ya

 

yup pay it off. u dont ahve to go to ref

 

What a bunch of whinerrrrrrrrssss.

 

I've seen a few bikes get exhaust tickets.

 

Bet they weren't Harleys.

Can you validate that with a link? If so I'm gonna buy a baja bug. 1835cc, Dellortos and an uncorked stinger.

 

Here is the vehicle code stating that motorcycles do not have to adhere to the 95dbA limit.


V.C. 27151.

 

But then I found this too...


That just seems to refer to bikes that are manufactured. Doesn't say anything about modifying them to be lounder.

 

Hey guys I just got the Apexi ECV (exhaust control valve) and installed it today. Its pretty cool and works quite well. I was thinking about trying to go to the ref for the loudness test so I could see the numbers for it. I don't know though, it is illegal to have on the street.