Smog Cops to Look for Emissions of Guilt (from Sunday's LA times)
08-15-05, 09:14 PM
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Smog Cops to Look for Emissions of Guilt (from Sunday's LA times)
Smog Cops to Look for Emissions of Guilt
Sensors scattered along Southland roadways will monitor exhaust. The state will help pay to replace or repair fume-belching clunkers.
By Miguel Bustillo, Times Staff Writer
For anyone who has ever been stuck behind a car belching thick black plumes of pollution, Southern California's smog cops have a message that some will find reassuring: They will soon be scanning the streets for smoky clunkers.
In the largest experiment of its kind in California, the South Coast Air Quality Management District plans to use remote sensors and video cameras to measure air pollution from 1 million vehicles as they enter freeways and navigate roads in the counties of Los Angeles, Orange, San Bernardino and Riverside.
If caught, the owners of the most environmentally offensive cars and trucks would receive letters informing them that the government would pay to fix or scrap their vehicles. The South Coast district estimates that 10,000 to 20,000 of the dirtiest vehicles would be detected. Smog regulators lack the authority to order drivers to dump dirty cars, but they can offer incentives.
California officials estimate that the dirtiest 10% of all cars and trucks — mostly older vehicles — spew out roughly 50% of the state's smog-forming emissions from vehicles. By the end of this decade, three-fourths of emissions from vehicles will be from older cars and trucks, state officials estimate.
Studies have shown that scrapping high-polluting vehicles is among the most cost-effective ways of cleaning the air — far cheaper than additional controls on power plants and refineries. Yet politicians and state officials have failed for years to get the dirtiest cars off the streets.
"You can't meet our air quality goals without addressing this problem," said Victor Weisser, chairman of California's Inspection and Maintenance Review Committee, which oversees the state's smog-check program.
"We have made great strides with cleaner gasoline and new engines, but you can't make bigger reductions until you get some of these cars off the road," he said. "And unless we do something, these cars from the 1980s are going to be on the road a long time."
Smog regulators are expected to give formal approval to the program next month, and enough sensors to scan a million cars — one in 10 cars in Southern California — would begin work early next year.
Air officials, fearing that motorists with dirty cars would try to avoid the sensors, won't disclose where they will be, other than saying most will be along freeway ramps. Perhaps as few as a dozen would be required, because each one can scan thousands of vehicles a day, and they will be moved from place to place, officials said.
Past efforts to focus on the dirtiest cars and trucks have been stalled by political opposition. Some opponents have complained that poor families who can least afford new cars would be hurt most by any move to target high-polluting vehicles. Other opponents have raised concerns that sensors would invade people's privacy.
In an attempt to allay privacy concerns, air pollution officials plan to hire a nonprofit group to send the mailings and deal with vehicle owners. The information on whose cars turned up as high polluters will be maintained in a database separate from motorists' regular state records, officials said.
Even as local smog regulators are moving ahead with the remote-sensor idea, state air quality officials have doubts about it. Some have questioned the accuracy of remote-sensing equipment, fearing that it will finger the wrong drivers by mistake. Southern California air regulators, by contrast, say the technology, which is now being used in Texas and Maryland, has a good track record.
Some critics of California's smog-control tactics say the real reason the state has failed to address the problem of dirty, older cars is that doing so would require officials to acknowledge that the smog-check program is not working.
Ten million cars and trucks are tested every year in California to ensure that they do not emit excessive pollution. Cars built in 1976 or before are exempt, as are cars newer than six years old. All other cars must be tested every other year to have vehicle registrations renewed. In most cases, cars that fail must be repaired so they will pass inspection.
A 2001 report by the National Academy of Sciences found smog-check programs generally failed to deliver the predicted pollution reductions, though it noted that they had made a positive impact.
In California, an evaluation of the state program found that in 1999 it was achieving only 36% of the reductions state regulators had predicted. Changes have produced marked improvements, but the program is still falling short of expectations.
"Smog check is like trying to stop drunk driving by giving everyone a sobriety test once a year at the DMV," said Joel Schwartz, a former executive officer of the committee that oversees the smog-check program and now a visiting scholar with the American Enterprise Institute, a free-market think tank.
"We have known for at least 20 years that these inspection programs do not work particularly well," Schwartz said. "The evidence has been overwhelming that they are failing to repair the high-polluting cars. There is fraud. And yet they have been popular with regulators and activists."
The smog-check program has been plagued by fraud since its inception in 1984. In the last decade, state investigations have uncovered dozens of private smog-check stations engaged in "clean piping," a practice in which emissions from a cleaner vehicle are illegally used to substitute for one that could not pass the inspections. In many cases, investigators have found that smog station technicians charged extra money on the side without the knowledge of a shop's owners.
Outside reviews of the program, conducted by pulling over motorists after they have received smog checks, have also found evidence of what critics call the "clean for a day" problem: cars that have been rigged by technicians to get through the test, only to fall back into disrepair within days.
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"There is a lot of suspicion that the repairs being done" on cars and trucks that fail the smog checks "are not lasting," said Dean Saito, the official in charge of the planned Southern California monitoring program.
That's what Douglas R. Lawson, a former scientist with the California Air Resources Board, discovered to his surprise a decade ago.
In 1995, Lawson used sensors to detect high polluters in Orange County and then radioed California Highway Patrol officers to pull over the vehicles and administer smog tests on the spot. More than 90% failed, including many that had recently passed the smog check.
The smog-check program has been reworked numerous times, but large-scale changes have proved politically difficult, in part because the 8,000 private smog-testing stations in the state have become political players in their own right, with lobbying coalitions in Sacramento.
Last year, groups representing smog stations opposed a proposal to grant longer new-car exemptions from inspections, arguing that it would harm their businesses. The proposal involved raising smog-check fees and ultimately provided the money to help fund the new remote-sensing proposal.
Citing smog check's underperformance, Schwartz and other critics argue that the state should scrap the program or at least limit it to older cars and instead install a vast web of remote sensors to snare problem vehicles.
Most air pollution experts reject that suggestion, arguing that remote sensing alone could never replace smog checks.
But supporters of remote sensing maintain that some state officials have opposed the technology out of fear that the sensors will expose smog check's flaws.
Lawson is one of several experts who argue that a large-scale monitoring program in California is long overdue.
"I am a fan of getting the air clean at the lowest cost to society, period," Lawson said. "And I am convinced that if the high-emitter problem were solved, the Los Angeles region would" comply with clean-air standards.
"I am happy that the South Coast is moving forward, they are showing leadership. But this should have been done a decade ago."
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Finding the dirtiest vehicles
Southern California pollution fighters plan to set up mobile units to find fume-belching vehicles. Owners will be offered money to fix or scrap the cars and light trucks. Here's how the system will work:
1) Sensors record engine output data and trigger camera to identify license plate and kind of vehicle.
2) Laser beam checks concentration of hydrocarbons and other pollutants in exhaust.
3) Data are later retrieved and notices sent to owners of gross polluters.
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Key points
Program is expected to begin early next year in Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties.
- Possibly as few as a dozen sensors would be needed to monitor tailpipe emissions, mostly on freeway access ramps.
- Drivers who get notices could go to one of 32 community colleges, where smog-check dispute referees and mechanics would do tests and up to $500 in free repairs.
- Alternatively, the South Coast Air Quality Management District would offer owners $1,000 to scrap clunkers.
- Low-income owners could get up to $2,000 in additional aid to replace older cars with ones built after 1990.
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Sources: South Coast Air Quality Management District, Taschen.
Sensors scattered along Southland roadways will monitor exhaust. The state will help pay to replace or repair fume-belching clunkers.
By Miguel Bustillo, Times Staff Writer
For anyone who has ever been stuck behind a car belching thick black plumes of pollution, Southern California's smog cops have a message that some will find reassuring: They will soon be scanning the streets for smoky clunkers.
In the largest experiment of its kind in California, the South Coast Air Quality Management District plans to use remote sensors and video cameras to measure air pollution from 1 million vehicles as they enter freeways and navigate roads in the counties of Los Angeles, Orange, San Bernardino and Riverside.
If caught, the owners of the most environmentally offensive cars and trucks would receive letters informing them that the government would pay to fix or scrap their vehicles. The South Coast district estimates that 10,000 to 20,000 of the dirtiest vehicles would be detected. Smog regulators lack the authority to order drivers to dump dirty cars, but they can offer incentives.
California officials estimate that the dirtiest 10% of all cars and trucks — mostly older vehicles — spew out roughly 50% of the state's smog-forming emissions from vehicles. By the end of this decade, three-fourths of emissions from vehicles will be from older cars and trucks, state officials estimate.
Studies have shown that scrapping high-polluting vehicles is among the most cost-effective ways of cleaning the air — far cheaper than additional controls on power plants and refineries. Yet politicians and state officials have failed for years to get the dirtiest cars off the streets.
"You can't meet our air quality goals without addressing this problem," said Victor Weisser, chairman of California's Inspection and Maintenance Review Committee, which oversees the state's smog-check program.
"We have made great strides with cleaner gasoline and new engines, but you can't make bigger reductions until you get some of these cars off the road," he said. "And unless we do something, these cars from the 1980s are going to be on the road a long time."
Smog regulators are expected to give formal approval to the program next month, and enough sensors to scan a million cars — one in 10 cars in Southern California — would begin work early next year.
Air officials, fearing that motorists with dirty cars would try to avoid the sensors, won't disclose where they will be, other than saying most will be along freeway ramps. Perhaps as few as a dozen would be required, because each one can scan thousands of vehicles a day, and they will be moved from place to place, officials said.
Past efforts to focus on the dirtiest cars and trucks have been stalled by political opposition. Some opponents have complained that poor families who can least afford new cars would be hurt most by any move to target high-polluting vehicles. Other opponents have raised concerns that sensors would invade people's privacy.
In an attempt to allay privacy concerns, air pollution officials plan to hire a nonprofit group to send the mailings and deal with vehicle owners. The information on whose cars turned up as high polluters will be maintained in a database separate from motorists' regular state records, officials said.
Even as local smog regulators are moving ahead with the remote-sensor idea, state air quality officials have doubts about it. Some have questioned the accuracy of remote-sensing equipment, fearing that it will finger the wrong drivers by mistake. Southern California air regulators, by contrast, say the technology, which is now being used in Texas and Maryland, has a good track record.
Some critics of California's smog-control tactics say the real reason the state has failed to address the problem of dirty, older cars is that doing so would require officials to acknowledge that the smog-check program is not working.
Ten million cars and trucks are tested every year in California to ensure that they do not emit excessive pollution. Cars built in 1976 or before are exempt, as are cars newer than six years old. All other cars must be tested every other year to have vehicle registrations renewed. In most cases, cars that fail must be repaired so they will pass inspection.
A 2001 report by the National Academy of Sciences found smog-check programs generally failed to deliver the predicted pollution reductions, though it noted that they had made a positive impact.
In California, an evaluation of the state program found that in 1999 it was achieving only 36% of the reductions state regulators had predicted. Changes have produced marked improvements, but the program is still falling short of expectations.
"Smog check is like trying to stop drunk driving by giving everyone a sobriety test once a year at the DMV," said Joel Schwartz, a former executive officer of the committee that oversees the smog-check program and now a visiting scholar with the American Enterprise Institute, a free-market think tank.
"We have known for at least 20 years that these inspection programs do not work particularly well," Schwartz said. "The evidence has been overwhelming that they are failing to repair the high-polluting cars. There is fraud. And yet they have been popular with regulators and activists."
The smog-check program has been plagued by fraud since its inception in 1984. In the last decade, state investigations have uncovered dozens of private smog-check stations engaged in "clean piping," a practice in which emissions from a cleaner vehicle are illegally used to substitute for one that could not pass the inspections. In many cases, investigators have found that smog station technicians charged extra money on the side without the knowledge of a shop's owners.
Outside reviews of the program, conducted by pulling over motorists after they have received smog checks, have also found evidence of what critics call the "clean for a day" problem: cars that have been rigged by technicians to get through the test, only to fall back into disrepair within days.
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"There is a lot of suspicion that the repairs being done" on cars and trucks that fail the smog checks "are not lasting," said Dean Saito, the official in charge of the planned Southern California monitoring program.
That's what Douglas R. Lawson, a former scientist with the California Air Resources Board, discovered to his surprise a decade ago.
In 1995, Lawson used sensors to detect high polluters in Orange County and then radioed California Highway Patrol officers to pull over the vehicles and administer smog tests on the spot. More than 90% failed, including many that had recently passed the smog check.
The smog-check program has been reworked numerous times, but large-scale changes have proved politically difficult, in part because the 8,000 private smog-testing stations in the state have become political players in their own right, with lobbying coalitions in Sacramento.
Last year, groups representing smog stations opposed a proposal to grant longer new-car exemptions from inspections, arguing that it would harm their businesses. The proposal involved raising smog-check fees and ultimately provided the money to help fund the new remote-sensing proposal.
Citing smog check's underperformance, Schwartz and other critics argue that the state should scrap the program or at least limit it to older cars and instead install a vast web of remote sensors to snare problem vehicles.
Most air pollution experts reject that suggestion, arguing that remote sensing alone could never replace smog checks.
But supporters of remote sensing maintain that some state officials have opposed the technology out of fear that the sensors will expose smog check's flaws.
Lawson is one of several experts who argue that a large-scale monitoring program in California is long overdue.
"I am a fan of getting the air clean at the lowest cost to society, period," Lawson said. "And I am convinced that if the high-emitter problem were solved, the Los Angeles region would" comply with clean-air standards.
"I am happy that the South Coast is moving forward, they are showing leadership. But this should have been done a decade ago."
*
Finding the dirtiest vehicles
Southern California pollution fighters plan to set up mobile units to find fume-belching vehicles. Owners will be offered money to fix or scrap the cars and light trucks. Here's how the system will work:
1) Sensors record engine output data and trigger camera to identify license plate and kind of vehicle.
2) Laser beam checks concentration of hydrocarbons and other pollutants in exhaust.
3) Data are later retrieved and notices sent to owners of gross polluters.
*
Key points
Program is expected to begin early next year in Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties.
- Possibly as few as a dozen sensors would be needed to monitor tailpipe emissions, mostly on freeway access ramps.
- Drivers who get notices could go to one of 32 community colleges, where smog-check dispute referees and mechanics would do tests and up to $500 in free repairs.
- Alternatively, the South Coast Air Quality Management District would offer owners $1,000 to scrap clunkers.
- Low-income owners could get up to $2,000 in additional aid to replace older cars with ones built after 1990.
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Sources: South Coast Air Quality Management District, Taschen.
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08-15-05, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by angelrx7HEAVEN
holy ****, at this rate half the rotaries are gonna taken off the road hands down 
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08-15-05, 09:38 PM
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OOPS, forgot to post the second half of the article, I added it to original post under the
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can you believe the loser that drives around with his mobile smog unit and follows polluter until he call call CHP for them to get pulled over! If I see a white van on my ***, I'm punching it!
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can you believe the loser that drives around with his mobile smog unit and follows polluter until he call call CHP for them to get pulled over! If I see a white van on my ***, I'm punching it!
08-15-05, 10:27 PM
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Hmmm, gotta love Cali and it's "forward thinking." 
I do wonder if this will actually come to be or if it's just an idea that will get buried in politics. Either way I still say "THANK GOD MY 7 HAS OUT OF STATE TAGS!!!!!!" 
I do wonder if this will actually come to be or if it's just an idea that will get buried in politics. Either way I still say "THANK GOD MY 7 HAS OUT OF STATE TAGS!!!!!!"
08-15-05, 10:37 PM
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I've driven through several of those...both full-throttle and coasting past (most often they are on freeway on-ramps), never had a problem with a Haltech-run streetport 2nd gen. and my Rx2...neither with cats or smog devices.
08-15-05, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tekno62
**** them... I know most hot rod groups will fight anything that even trys to remove old and rare cars from the road.
and it may just be an optional thing to scrap your old car for money now, but i'm sure if this works you will be force, its bs.
in the meantime, i say buy up some old junked vehicles for a couple hundre, drive past those, and get $1000 to scrap it, make a little money
08-15-05, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaime Enriquez
I've driven through several of those...both full-throttle and coasting past (most often they are on freeway on-ramps), never had a problem with a Haltech-run streetport 2nd gen. and my Rx2...neither with cats or smog devices.
Thus far they have only been used for "statistical purposes", just like the road side smog checks where a CHP officer flags you in.
If this goes thru, you will actually have to take your car to the Ref when they sense gross polluter
08-15-05, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
well there exempt if their 76' and older.
and it may just be an optional thing to scrap your old car for money now, but i'm sure if this works you will be force, its bs.
in the meantime, i say buy up some old junked vehicles for a couple hundre, drive past those, and get $1000 to scrap it, make a little money
and it may just be an optional thing to scrap your old car for money now, but i'm sure if this works you will be force, its bs.
in the meantime, i say buy up some old junked vehicles for a couple hundre, drive past those, and get $1000 to scrap it, make a little money
That actually could work, I know of a gross polluter 80 toyota corolla for 300.00
I could make 700.00 profit
08-16-05, 12:29 AM
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It may actually work in your favor....my girlfriends old corolla wouldn't pass, so California paid to fix it so it would pass....cost over $1000 to get to pass and cost her $100. Imagine...getting a nice stock rebuild and some new cats from the state!!! "My rotary won't pass judge...the seals are gone...need new ones."
08-16-05, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaime Enriquez
It may actually work in your favor....my girlfriends old corolla wouldn't pass, so California paid to fix it so it would pass....cost over $1000 to get to pass and cost her $100. Imagine...getting a nice stock rebuild and some new cats from the state!!! "My rotary won't pass judge...the seals are gone...need new ones."
08-16-05, 08:43 AM
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Thus far they have only been used for "statistical purposes", just like the road side smog checks where a CHP officer flags you in.
If this goes thru, you will actually have to take your car to the Ref when they sense gross polluter
If this goes thru, you will actually have to take your car to the Ref when they sense gross polluter
I better stay away from the vicinity of 5, 605 and 91. I got to play it safe.
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What irks me is yeah we may mod our cars and do various things that make it so we don't pass smog.
But I still would like to think we get better mpg and produce less polution then all those SUV's the politiions are driving. That is what really gets me. These huge vehicals that get 10mpg on the hwy are the problem.. not the average car. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
But I still would like to think we get better mpg and produce less polution then all those SUV's the politiions are driving. That is what really gets me. These huge vehicals that get 10mpg on the hwy are the problem.. not the average car. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
08-16-05, 10:08 AM
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What irks me is yeah we may mod our cars and do various things that make it so we don't pass smog.
But I still would like to think we get better mpg and produce less polution then all those SUV's the politiions are driving. That is what really gets me. These huge vehicals that get 10mpg on the hwy are the problem.. not the average car. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
But I still would like to think we get better mpg and produce less polution then all those SUV's the politiions are driving. That is what really gets me. These huge vehicals that get 10mpg on the hwy are the problem.. not the average car. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
You are so wrong. My 99 Sub 4x4 with 5.7 engine gets a better gas mileage than my 13-B streetported/IDA FB and RX-3.
sometimes i really hate the government...
08-16-05, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by speed7
What irks me is yeah we may mod our cars and do various things that make it so we don't pass smog.
But I still would like to think we get better mpg and produce less polution then all those SUV's the politiions are driving. That is what really gets me. These huge vehicals that get 10mpg on the hwy are the problem.. not the average car. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
But I still would like to think we get better mpg and produce less polution then all those SUV's the politiions are driving. That is what really gets me. These huge vehicals that get 10mpg on the hwy are the problem.. not the average car. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Don't worry if the price of oil stays around $60 per barrel, you'll see the price of gas at the station get near the $4.75-5.00 zone and SUVs will start to disappear from the roads.
08-16-05, 12:22 PM
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Missouri has been doing this for awhile. I drove right past those vans time and time again and never got any notice in the mail. The sensor isnt plugged onto your tail pipe so the emissions are diluted a little more when its detected.
i think this is directly targetting those who puff plumes of smoke as they drive.
i think this is directly targetting those who puff plumes of smoke as they drive.
08-16-05, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wackyracer
Start buying those see-thru plastic license plate cover. then use brake cleaner to smear that nice lense.
I just sprayed Photoblocker on my Isuzu Amigo's plates, sounds like a good product but I think it'll work best at night when the camera flash flashes. *But* it's *extremely* hard to detect, especially when driving behind you.