CHP Says Fatal Accident is Result of Street Race
06-30-05, 12:42 PM
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If they were not racing (double the speed limit "reckless driving") would this accident have occured??? Even if they were traveling 75mph this accident would have been prevented.
06-30-05, 05:14 PM
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The fact is, they were speeding and she was a poor judge of speed and entry time. The accident happened due to more than one mistake. And yes even if they were doing 75 it would have still happened, except the rear of her car would be hit more so then the side.
07-01-05, 10:39 AM
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Ok, take this scenario; An 18 year old is driving (an FD)(with 236k miles on it) 50mph in a residential 25mph zone.
A kid 15 or so yards away runs in the middle of the street to get his ball. The FD ( since he was travelling at 50 not 25) doesn't have time to stop and plows into the boy and kills him.
OK, who's fault is this accident, the boys?!!
The thing is these kids weren't just speeding, what they were doing was considered reckless driving.
A kid 15 or so yards away runs in the middle of the street to get his ball. The FD ( since he was travelling at 50 not 25) doesn't have time to stop and plows into the boy and kills him.
OK, who's fault is this accident, the boys?!!
The thing is these kids weren't just speeding, what they were doing was considered reckless driving.
07-01-05, 03:49 PM
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that's completely different story, and i don't speed in residential areas. Still again, kids shouldn't be in the street and the parents should have been watching the kid. Yes the driver is partially at fault here. But i still don't see how you can completely blame the driver of an accident EVERY time. The fact is accidents happen because of more than one person. Either there is no kid, no accident, or no car no accident. The accident happens for two reasons 1. the car was speeding and 2. the kid ran in the street.
07-01-05, 04:27 PM
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And all I'm saying is if you kept an eye on your kids and taught them to NEVER run into the road, they wouldn't get it, no matter HOW fast I'm going. I always get stuck on the CAUSE. The CAUSE is the kids are in the street. I GUARANTEE you you can be doing well below the speed limit (10 mph), and if a kid darts out from between cars or from his lawn around a bend, running after a ball, you WILL hit him, and that impact can STILL kill him.
Again, all these are situations which take TWO ppl to make happen. This is not a situation where one guy jumps the curb and flys onto someone's lawn, taking out the kids playing in the sandbox.
Again, all these are situations which take TWO ppl to make happen. This is not a situation where one guy jumps the curb and flys onto someone's lawn, taking out the kids playing in the sandbox.
07-01-05, 04:33 PM
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Darting between cars and darting out with 15 lards of distance in which a car had time to stop safely are two different things. The kids that were going 90 would have had plenty of time to stop if they were going the speed limit.
07-01-05, 06:41 PM
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But they were speeding and if the lady hadn't pulled out they wouldn't have crashed either. There's two sides to this stob being stubborn! grrr. lol this is pointless because it's not going to change what happens but if they give him man slaughter we all might as well turn in our licenses because you're not going to get out of an accident without ending up in jail.
07-01-05, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by live2drive15
There's two sides to this stob being stubborn! grrr. lol
It's like this...if you leave your car unlocked in a dark unsafe area, and it gets stolen, guess what? You're a DUMBASS lol. Don't tell me "Well, people shouldn't steal..." Yea the thief is wrong and should be shot, but you deserve a whippin too for being so careless... It takes TWO. Not one, TWO
07-02-05, 04:30 AM
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I hate it when stupid bitches pull out in front of me....some people do have poor judgement like this lady that died. California law states that traffic that has right of way (These two stupid kids racing) NO MATTER WHAT. Even if they are doing 180 mph and she pulls out, guess what: SHES AT FAULT. They would of course be charged with speeding, reckless driving, etc....but still she is at fault for not yielding to oncoming traffic. It's California state law. I had someone pull out in front of me (I was doing 60 in a 45...**** it No way in hell I'll do 45 on highway 99) anyways a sheriff saw me slam on my brakes (Luckily I kept the tires from locking up, except the front left one...its retarded) and the sheriff ended up pulling us over. He had both of us out of our cars and talked to us. He pretty much hammered her for being a retard and not yielding to oncoming traffic and her defense was "Well I bet he was speeding" The sheriff told her "Well he might have been speeding, he might not have, but even if he was you are required to yield to oncoming traffic speeind or not. And If you can't and end up getting in a wreck like what almost happened here you WILL be found at fault. I didn't have him on radar, but if he was speeding he would end up with a speeding ticket and nothing more. We both got off the hook, but that bitch got PWNED....well yeah moral of the story: You are at fault if you fail to yeild to oncoming traffic.
-Side note...I hate how the motorist is ALWAYS found at fault when a pedestrian or bicyclist is hit. If some stupid *** kid jumps out and gets hit...his parents need to have the charges put on them... I remeber when I was a kid my parents told me to look both ways before crossing and one day I didn't....I got a beating that reminded me to look both ways....It's all about parenting technique.
-Side note...I hate how the motorist is ALWAYS found at fault when a pedestrian or bicyclist is hit. If some stupid *** kid jumps out and gets hit...his parents need to have the charges put on them... I remeber when I was a kid my parents told me to look both ways before crossing and one day I didn't....I got a beating that reminded me to look both ways....It's all about parenting technique.
07-02-05, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by live2drive15
UHH newbie i'm on your side here remember? I'm talking about bitchslapper not you, i'm right on with what you are saying.
SmogSUX, I posted a very similar situation earlier in the thread, and VA has the same laws. I'd venture to say EVERY state has that law: yeild to faster traffic, yeild to those with the right of way, etc.
About the bikes...most people don't fight it cuz they feel guilty. But if you show that the biker was wrong (eg here, biker has to be travelling in the direction OPPOSITE of traffic, or was switching between lanes, crossed not at a crosswalk blah blah) I bet you can win your case.
And YES, good parenting makes a WORLD of difference in EVERYTHING... well said.
lol
thanks!
07-05-05, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitchslapper
Just because I threw in the towel ,doesn't mean I changed my views. I just can't go 12 rounds anymore.
It's cool man...I can agree to disagree. I can see we view things very differently. Kinda reminds me of the senior citizens I saw driving this old Buick today on the highway in the right lane. They had an American flag on the radio antenna, and had two bumper stickers stuck on the rear windshield that say "I drive the speed limit" and "Speeding is against the law!" w/ American flags on 'em lol. Needless to say, everyone was giving them a hard time LOL
07-05-05, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitchslapper
Ok, take this scenario; An 18 year old is driving (an FD)(with 236k miles on it) 50mph in a residential 25mph zone.
A kid 15 or so yards away runs in the middle of the street to get his ball. The FD ( since he was travelling at 50 not 25) doesn't have time to stop and plows into the boy and kills him.
OK, who's fault is this accident, the boys?!!
The thing is these kids weren't just speeding, what they were doing was considered reckless driving.
A kid 15 or so yards away runs in the middle of the street to get his ball. The FD ( since he was travelling at 50 not 25) doesn't have time to stop and plows into the boy and kills him.
OK, who's fault is this accident, the boys?!!
The thing is these kids weren't just speeding, what they were doing was considered reckless driving.
We're not saying that it's not the street racers' fault that the lady died, we're saying that it's most likely the lady's fault that the accident happened. Her poor judgement caused the accident, the fact that they were going twice the speed limit was what caused her death. I mean, don't get me wrong, the death was definitely the fault of the street racers, but the accident most likely wasn't. We're in no way, shape, or form defending the street racers (anyone dumb enough to race down a busy street at 4PM should be jailed anyways), it's just we're trying to make a clarification.
Then again, none of us were there, so we should probably all shut up about it.
