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Old 07-29-10 | 12:22 AM
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Old 08-03-10 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RicerJ
lol im already in sac lol everyone with a rotary protests and they go ok fine rotaries are now smog exempt lol
That would make me tearing with joy if they exempted rotaries from smog.
Old 08-30-10 | 05:46 AM
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wait???

Originally Posted by rotaryride
That would make me tearing with joy if they exempted rotaries from smog.
yo man is this true or all yall just playing with my emotions ???
Old 08-30-10 | 12:17 PM
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No it's not true, and probly never will be.
Old 08-30-10 | 12:31 PM
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MAN! I already got enough problems passing smog. eff them
Old 08-30-10 | 01:52 PM
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they won't give rotaries any exemption, if anything they will always have the lower hand in smog due to the rebuilds taking time to build compression whereas a rebuilt piston engine can idle for 30 minutes then proceed to the smog shop and pass fine. they already are hosing people in that respect with the weak temp permits that they won't give extensions on, so be sure you can break it in and pass smog within that timeframe..

if they do annual testing then they should omit any visual tests, it will bypass alot of the bullshit that is california smog, people bypassing the laws and get more people to actually build smog legal modified cars(which will still limit the power levels and keep the cars at least on a reasonable level versus bone stock or completely built spewing black smoke). i'm sure the onwers would be happy with a 300WHP smog legal car and the environment will be happier without all that unburnt fuel floating into the atmosphere, but what do i know, the white collars know it all.
Old 08-31-10 | 12:16 AM
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I just passed and got a header, no cat, a holley carb, emissions blocked off, and a leadfoot behind the wheel. I have two years of fun before I have to swap it all back. Take that, treehuggers
Old 09-10-10 | 04:59 AM
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Woot no smog test this year. Submitted registration online in an instant. For some reason they were making me test every year for the past 3+ years, citing that my vehicle model was a common high polluter... thanks for bumping up the statistics guys :P.
Old 09-13-10 | 02:06 PM
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They understand that only FB's should get exceptions on smog, ha ha.
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So wait? a car atm that is over 15 years old doesnt need to pass smog??? like my 91 fc?
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Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?

Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:

* Hybrid
* Gasoline powered 1975 year model or older
* Diesel powered manufactured prior to 1998 or with a Gross Vehicle Weight rating (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs
* Electric
* Natural gas powered with a GVWR rating of more than 14,000 lbs.
* Motorcycle
* Trailer
Old 03-23-11 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Robson91Fc
Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?

Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:

* Hybrid
* Gasoline powered 1975 year model or older
* Diesel powered manufactured prior to 1998 or with a Gross Vehicle Weight rating (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs
* Electric
* Natural gas powered with a GVWR rating of more than 14,000 lbs.
* Motorcycle
* Trailer
= "No."
Old 04-28-11 | 09:54 PM
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I just read a post: http://www.examiner.com/car-restorat...is-put-on-hold

Fellow Automobile Enthusiasts,

You had contacted me earlier this year regarding your opposition to AB 859, which would have increased the smog check requirements for cars more than 15 years old, adding new costs to collectors, while accomplishing very little in improving our state’s air quality.

I am pleased to inform you yesterday this bill was held on the “suspense file” in the Assembly Appropriations Committee, and is essentially dead for this year. This is truly a victory—but like a bad penny, bad ideas also return over and over again in Sacramento, so we must all continue to be vigilant in protecting our hobby.

In the meantime, I will continue to look out for the interests of automobile enthusiasts as vice-chair of the Assembly Transportation Committee, and I encourage you to contact me with issues of concern as they come up in Sacramento, and I am always open to suggestions on how the state’s laws may be improved to make things easier for automobile collectors, customizers, and racers in California.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact my office,

Kevin Jeffries
Assemblyman, 66th District

Continue reading on Examiner.com: Good news for California car enthusiasts as AB 859 is put on hold - Oakland car restoration | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/car-restorat...#ixzz1KsBedwQj
Old 05-15-11 | 12:36 PM
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and here we go
Old 05-15-11 | 12:39 PM
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wow, u would think there are more issues than that , leave the rotaries on the road please!!!!!!
Old 05-15-11 | 12:41 PM
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Old 07-02-11 | 10:47 PM
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I have a 93 FD and am moving from Chicago to San Diego.... what is the current law? In Chicago its only OB2 cars that have to get tested, but old cars rust out because of the weather and salt so there isn't as many of them.

Thanks
Old 07-02-11 | 11:21 PM
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Smog test every other year for you.
Old 08-06-11 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TripGreeley
I just had a brilliant idea. All the forum members throw in a dollar and we buy a patch of land in Oregon or Nevada and register our cars through that address.....
Originally Posted by bmeyer
ill throw in a hundred to avoid california bullshit

So whatever happened to this idea?
Old 08-06-11 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Robson91Fc
Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?

Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:

* Hybrid
* Gasoline powered 1975 year model or older
* Diesel powered manufactured prior to 1998 or with a Gross Vehicle Weight rating (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs
* Electric
* Natural gas powered with a GVWR rating of more than 14,000 lbs.
* Motorcycle
* Trailer
What the f*ck? A diesel gets let off but my seven gets it in the ***? That's some automotivicist bull crap right there. Yeah I made up a word, so what. I did this paper in my freshman year and made a formula for pollution from diesel's.

According to Netstate.com California is 770 miles by 250 miles, the mean elevation of California is 2,900 feet above sea level. Scientists have determined that acute altitude sickness occurs at about 8,000 miles above sea level. So if we follow the formula to determine volume -5,100*770*250 than there is 981,750,000 cubic feet of air in California. EPA has stated that a diesel truck engine typically produces 2,778 grams of pollutants per gallon (“Emission Facts”). A typical diesel engine traveling at 15 miles per gallon for 60 minutes at 60 miles an hour would produce 11,112 grams of pollutants. And if a cubic foot of air at standard temperature and pressure, assuming average composition, weighs approximately 0.0807 lbs (Remer) or 36.604 grams; 981,750,000*36.604 so there is 3,593,597,700 grams of air in California and a single diesel engine produces 11,112/3,593,597,700.

Earlier in the essay I stated how this doesn't calculate air current etc. I'm not sure how accurate this is since this was information based so long ago and not sure if I checked or doubled checked my figures etc. So don't flame me if it doesn't exactly work out.
Old 08-07-11 | 01:50 PM
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Calm down big hoss, Diesels built after 1998 have to get smogged now too. And I believe motorcycles are on the way as well. But hasn't been put into effect yet.
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Originally Posted by Slandd
So whatever happened to this idea?
Well someone would have to make a trip there to get the mail, and don't you think it would be suspicious if a plot of land with no house had 100 cars registered to it. All of similar make and model. I am pretty sure they would figure that one out. Not too mention california state law requires that your car be registered IN california if you are permanent resident here.
Old 11-27-11 | 05:56 AM
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Good news about the bill, hopefully it never comes up again. That's wishful thinking thought.
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wait wait so what does ^ it mean... do i get an exempt?
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How about this bill to make 81 & earlier exempt

Subject: FW: California Introduces Bill to Exempt pre-1981 Vehicles From
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California Introduces Bill to Exempt pre-1981 Vehicles From Emissions
Inspection Requirement

In 2004, legislation was enacted to repeal California's rolling
emissions-test exemption for vehicles 30 years old and older and replace it
with a law requiring the lifetime testing of all 1976 and newer model-year
vehicles. This year, a bill has been introduced in the California Senate
(S.B. 1224) by Senator Doug LaMalfa (Senator.LaMalfa@senate.ca.gov ) to
exempt all motor vehicles prior to the 1981 model year from the emissions
inspection requirement. The bill will be considered in the Senate
Transportation and Housing Committee on March 27, 2012.

We Urge You to Contact All Members of the Senate Transportation and Housing
Committee (Contact Info Below) Immediately To Request Their Support for S.B.
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* S.B. 1224 recognizes the minimal impact of pre-1981vehicles on
emissions and air quality.
* S.B. 1224 acknowledges that pre-1981 vehicles still constitute a
minuscule portion of the overall vehicle population and are a poor source
from which to look for emissions reduction.
* S.B. 1224 endorses the fact that pre-1981 vehicles are
overwhelmingly well-maintained and infrequently driven (a fraction of the
miles each year as a new vehicle).
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have felt the heat from failed efforts to meet air quality goals and have
looked to older cars as a convenient scapegoat, using false data and
inflated annual mileage assumptions to further their case. S.B. 1224 helps
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