Well for those looking to access old info from v8rx7forum.com the Wayback Machine pulls up the archived versions of the site. Kinda slow today when I checked but it eventually loaded it up. It typically runs a lot faster too.

http://web.archive.org/web/200710120...8rx7forum.com/

http://web.archive.org/

Hope that helps out some people.

 

Administrators, Moderators, SuperModerators - this thread has been swept clean of invalid site references and links but tells the story of the other website's demise.

Please do not delete this thread.

Thread will remain open as long as no more attempts to link to any live websites concerned with RX-7's is attempted.

Mario III

 

Wait let me get this strait we can not help others with a link or a remark to a site that provides just the info they came hear searching for? Thats BS.

 

Why go to another forum, when there is such a friendly culture for V8 swaps here?

Whatever, I suppose it's a low margin business, and IB has to protect their clicks however they can. Still think it's a stupid rule, but much like all forms of "government", reality != policy.

 

well thats easy since the majority of the members here no longer consider our cars RX7's

 

I always reference this site as a good resource when I am on the V8 RX7 website. Why can't we just support each other? I think it would make more sense and keep the hostility at bay. Just saying.

 

There is a huge wealth of info on this site...Why go elsewhere?

Perhaps you could get a v8 specific forum set up under Tech & Performance.

 

So all the other threads in this forum that referenced that other v8 rx7 forum when it was up and running were not deleted/removed - but referring to the current replacement for that site is not ok? What kinda crap is that? How about a little explanation as to why that is the case now and it wasn't before and v8 rx7 forum was much larger/more trafficked?
-Bob

 

there is but not at the expense of the crap we have to put up with here. We have a much more specific and friendly atmosphere for piston swappers at the other site.

We even have our own vehicle specific meet as well called SevenNotStock.

 

hell I troll both. I have a t2 swapped fc as well as an ls1 swapped fc vert done at the same time. My bick is digger.

 

no your bick is digger because you have a flux capacitor

 

It's consistent throughout all IB owned sites. Any links to any sites that could in any way impact their page views are verboten. It's kind of a Stalin-esque method of trying to keep page views up (and very short sighted), but whatever. Some places do the return and block the links back. I care more about people finding what they need and the community, so I don't play those games.

People can still PM the V8 guys for information if they want/need it.

 

I had a bad feeling about that forum a long time ago and had copied my build thread to my favorite hybrid z car forum.

 

morons, not like any site sponsors from this site would bother on the other site, and vise-versa

I actually sold more of my group buy to the V8 guys then the rotary guys, at least they are not cheap.

 

See, that's what I don't get. Why not approach other sites in a constructive manner? Like I said, short sighted.

There are other RX7 sites out there, with substantial memberships and different management. Why would IB rather I partner with them? If it's because we're too small to be worth dealing with, then fine, I respect that, but then why are you so concerned with the links. Sweeping policies rarely work well when implemented as such.

 

Wait, isn't there a new site for those V8 guys now? I mean, not that I would ever desecrate my beloved FD like that, but you know, some of those guys do visit both sites. I fail to see how cross links between the two forums could be a bad thing.

 

there is a new v8 site, not like it is hard to find, and there are other rotary sites.

I go to the rotary sites for information about the cars themselves, I no longer have a V8 FC but I got to hand it to the V8 site, no"sleepy eye" conversion threads and more tech, no stupid kids arguing or pounding their chests thinking they are better then the next guy.

I will continue to lurk over at the V8 site and continue to shake my head at the moderation of even the mention of another site. I never get the moderators from here- like who do they report to? Who runs the show? I got to hand it to them for taking time out of their lives to moderate but there is no need to over moderate- chill out bros.

 

The other site has nothing to do with Rotaries. WTF nonsense is this? We can't even link away people that are interested in not getting flamed.

For the longest Moderators would point people who had swap related questions to previous iterations of the site.

Absolutely ridiculous. This isn't an "RCC" site, we're not Stealing anything from Rx7club. Your management team needs to dislodge their heads from their asses.

 

Been around since 2002 and you don't even know the rules explicit conditions?

Let's see if there are any types who can pull the rule before I get to work and do it for you. I'll answer the other questions at that time, as well. Time for the 35 min commute to work.

Mario III

 

Considering the rules have been molested to conform to whatever twisted logic IB implements more times then I care to count, I doubt I've read whatever its latest iteration is.

Spare me the holier then thou attitude Mario. You know damn well the other board doesn't infringe upon anything IB is selling. Don't fall back on your blanket "rules" section instead of applying a little common sense to the situation.

 

There is more issue with the fact that these exact same rules were in place when mods allowed links to competing websites before that.

Why the sudden change of heart? You stated the rules didn't change, so, care to explain?

This really doesn't hurt our (the V8 guys) forum at all, but it isn't helping IB or RX7Club in any way, and is adversely effecting people trying to find swap information. I don't charge vendors or advertising on our forum, so the total page hits really mean nothing. The forum is not-for-profit. The point is to help the community, period.

So which is it? The community, or blindly (if inconsistently) following rules?

 

So if I post a link to Rotary Performance or the RX7 Store this thread will be closed?

 

you answered your own question- profits are what drive the rules

 

While it is true that the rules seen in the boards and the Classifieds sections seen as "sticky's" do seem a bit plastic in nature, they are that way as we respond to IB requests and also roll with the latest changes coming from them. It's also to protect the membership. The nature of scammers keeps those sticky's changing, it seems.

The FAQ page, though, and especially the main body of text in the agreement section has been that way for years. It is here that we find Rule 6:

6. RX-7 Club policy is that we do not allow links or referencing in signatures to other competing forums. This includes but is not limited to other National or International RX-7 related forums. Local club forums, State, and Regional forums are allowed.

You'll note that RX-7 Club is a "rotary community" but that the rule above doesn't say that....it says "RX-7 related" which will include RX-7's getting the non-rotary engine swap.

Next!


No....those are not competing websites, they are actual online stores that are also Paying Vendors of this website.


This one is easy....there are now more Moderators who are actually paying attention. The easiest analogy is to getting a traffic ticket. If there are no cops on the highway, then there's no problem going 100 mph and not getting a ticket. Add one cop and then the odds start to work against you, but they are still slight. Add 10 cops to that same stretch and, well, you get the idea, I hope.

There are now more cops and the rules are going to be enforced when a situation gets out of hand.

The no****.com constant referencing actually drew a "Reported Post" Email and brought it to our attention.


Yea, it may be time for that again. I seem to remember there was such a board when Ryan was running the website. IB hasn't always been the owner.

Look, whenever one of the regulars here reports a post where someone is flaming a V8 conversion, I go on a slash and burn on that perp's posting history. I may not favor the idea of such a swap but this is y'all's corner and you shouldn't have to tolerate nimrods coming in here boasting the usual "rotary-or-crush-the-car" rhetoric. I've got race results from several years of GRM "$2000"-style meets that conclusively shows that the 2ndgen and 3rdgen cars can be more competitive with the swap when it's done right.

It's your corner, you can have fun with it and not have to endure flaming for your passion. I'm going to be on your side and deleting the V8 haters' comments/posts every time in this section of the website.

But please don't think it's right to try to direct traffic and members to another website that deals with RX-7 related activities. Paying Vendors stores are one thing. Websites that aren't stores but actual "community forums," that's the stuff we don't want to see on this website in the sigs.

 

that was actually pretty diplomatic, I give you credit for bringing your point across in that fashion