Pretty sexy ride, but I believe everybody else in the conversation is talking about street cars. You're 20b still have 50/50 after you put the interior, windshield wipers, windows, headlights and motors, front bumper support, AC components, PS pump and rack in place?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a_1cKbrAxo

91 Oct, Heads, Cam, Nitrous, Stall and DR's. That's it. Factory 91 RX7 IRS.

He's on this forum, too.

EDIT: And yes.. he did cut a 1.4X - 60'

 

LoL...wait theres no HUGE turbo? What these nut sacks forget about while they attempt to start a huge argument is they are comparing a TURBO car to a NON TURBO car. NA to NA a HIGHLY modded 13b wont even come close to touching a highly modded LS1, same goes for a turbo car....and yes its because of its massive size so your excuse of "its only 1.3" is valid...but still doesn't matter..becuase yes, it is only a 1.3 and yes mines a 5.7(soon to be 6.7)...so stop comparing apples to oranges. Whats sad is an NA LS1 will give most turbo rotaries a run for their money...show me an NA 13b that would even think about touching a turbo LS1..even in its original platform..like in a 3600lbs car....its not gonna happen.



Oh and TurboTommy...yes HE doesnt need 985948594849849 shot of nitrous, or a sump...but then again HES not YOU...so you need to hop off his sack and use your OWN vehicle(like im doing with mine)to talk **** with.....******* my car isnt going to get you much respect from anyone..you dont see me hear ******* any car ls1 or rotary, like ive said before, I have respect for any well build vehicle..reguardless of the type of motor or platform used.And 1 last thing Tommy,noone has respect for any **** talking idiot who has a "friend" or worse, someone they dont even know,that will smoke them. If you can't fight your own battles stay out of the conversation.

 

As a matter of fact, that 9.15 run wasn't done with a stock transmission, Ari was running a G-Force. Eventually he switched back to a stock Mazda tranny but he was having to tear it down and rebuild it every 3 races or so. Ari also sprays but I don't know if he was spraying on that run or not, just to be honest.

 

Who knows! I'm never going to find out

I never quite understand why people on these forums always try and convince the other that their logic or way of doing things is the 'right' way of doing it. Different people want different things from their cars, that's all there is to it. Logically the LS1/2/6/7 is the best bang for the buck but if everyone operated on logic alone none of us would be doing engine swaps and spending time working on cars almost 2 decades old!

Hell I could have bought 2 new Z06's and have money left over for a few turbos for the amount of money I have in my RX8 and RX7's...but logic isn't my motivating factor and I doubt it is anyone elses that's arguing in this thread, so really no amount of explaining, justifying or arguing is going to convince anyone that one way is better than the other.

Everytime I fire up my 20B and hear it idle I'm convinced that I did the 'right' thing for me - I don't expect anyone else to understand why I would spend $60k on a 20 year old car just to have a nice exhaust note (well that's not the only reason, but it's certainly one of them...).

 

I 100% agree. But please take note that the rotary guys in this thread are on the offensive, not the V8 guys. All we're doing is defending the bullshit they spout out. Eventhough the only rotary cars I've ever owned have either never ran while in my possesion, or ran for less than a few days (due to engine problems before I bought it). I know very little about rotaries but I know they're not my bag. I've got friends with rotary cars, they let me drive their cars sometimes, and I do the same. I like them; they can be fast; we don't bitch and moan at eachother (like what happens so frequently on this forum) about choice of power plant, we help each other out. I've had a rotary guy come to my house and work till 3am to help me get ready for an LS1 tuning session the next morning. I polished one guy's TII UIM and LIM for free. He hooked me up with some FC trim pieces. I'm polishing his new FMIC and he's giving me all the AC lines, condensor, dryer, etc to get the AC running on one of my cars. The only time I get crap for putting a V8 in my car is from e-thugs who tell me my **** is ****, their **** is the ****, my **** is slow, but will never line their cars up. I've seen turbotommy get called out on 2 threads and he either never shows back up, or completely aviods the question. This thread being one of them.

So, all in all the issue with me (and I believe I can speak for other swappers) is that we respect well built cars, no matter if they are powered by rotary, piston, gerbil wheels, or Fred Flinstone. Rotary guys that give us **** all over this forum, deside to give us a sub forum where everything related to engine swaps is moved to, and tell us that we need to keep our engine swap **** here. Then THEY come here and give us **** that we're trying to aviod by posting in our own little 2nd class citizen area of the forum. Kinda funny that whenever someone posts in the lounge about their new 20b, the rest of the forum and the moderators lap it up like it's sweat from his *******, but if there's a LS1 swap **** posted in the lounge, it gets moved real ****** quick. Might I remind you that this is RX7Club.com, not RotaryPoweredCars.com, or ILoveTheWankel.com.

I'm just tired of the misinformation that is posted about the engine swaps, LS1 in particular. Guys who have never ridden in one are posting reasons that people might sell their car, they're posting videos and information about other people's cars and what they think their friend's cars can do. Really.... if you tried to bring that as evidence in a court, it would be thrown out as hear-say.

All I know is that my car is fast as *****. Are there faster cars on the planet? of course. Are some of them rotary powered? yup. Are some of them electric cars? You betcha. Do I give a ****? nope. Just stop giving me **** for doing what I like to do with my own property.

 

lol

 

If people could understand that one "EXPLAINS-IT-ALL" comment you just wrote..then there wouldn't be these stupid arguements. Who cares if someone wanted to put a cast iron 305 in it and make 150hp and go 19's and have horrible handling...its what they want to do.

Everyone has their reasons for everything...I have my reasons for putting an LSx engine in my car just as the next guy has his reasons for putting a 20b in his..or even the NEXT guy who wants to run an NA 13b. There is no such thing as the "right" way to build an RX7 or any car for that matter...theres only "my" way when it comes to "my" car and "your" way when it comes to "your" car.

Also for anyone reading what I write...im not on an LS1 bandwagon thinking my car is God and will beat any rotary any day, I KNOW theres a bunch of people on this forum who have faster rotary RX7's than me...the only problem is none of them are the ones talking **** about our swaps, and it gets really annoying.

 

Its really funny how these V8 guys are trying to hang with engines 6 liters smaller! Yeh they SHOULD be faster, but wow their not. And hope your V8 cars run at least 8s 1/4 to race 20B Tom. We're still waiting. Oh yeh thats right all talk, No one still has come out and even raced me yet? Im ready , he's ready , and about 10 other Rotaries around here. Blackwood NJ. And oh yeh Ari's rx7 ran a 8.8 and wow its a street car. And what about hinson's motorsports fully built twin turbo V8 running a mere 8.4. Thats it! HA HA How come no one still didn't answer me. How come no V8 has ever beat me on the street, so by putting thee same engine in an rx7 you think your unbeatable.

 

it can easily run a 9. im trying to do it with 14psi or so on pump gas. if i turn it up a little, it will run a 9. But im into street racing also. 50mph roll ons etc.

 

Lets set up a date and time and place when your car is finished for a run on the street from a dig. and from a roll.

 

im willing to meet you half way somewhere.

 

Also for anyone reading what I write...im not on an LS1 bandwagon thinking my car is God and will beat any rotary any day, I KNOW theres a bunch of people on this forum who have faster rotary RX7's than me...the only problem is none of them are the ones talking **** about our swaps, and it gets really annoying.

i wasnt talking smack "snyper", look at my first post, i asked a question to racing a street v8 and got bashed by e pez and even posted ....." i was just asking" etc. and i mentioned that the guy americncarsareslow does have a healthy fd etc..
read the posts. i was only asking, but now reading all the posts ive seen, i decided to post a 9.1 in a street 13b @ 152mph. and you come back and post a 9.9? at 134mph? (sounds like **** btw) please that thing will be destroyed from a roll with MY CAR. so now i am talkin ****. ANY v8 that is untubbed with full interior and registered to be driven on the street i will race. Snyper, epez, any of you guys. the way a rotary applies power will over come your v8 on the street all day long. Especially on the highway. It better be turboed. that 9.9 car looked like you could go to sleep after the 1/8 mile.

 

you guys put that big motor in such a light body and still cant get it done. Keep your camaros, gtos, transams and everyother car that motor comes in.

your still going to lose on the street to my 20b. keep researching maybe they make a bigger liter size. 5.7 seems like its coming up short. or put a rotary back in it and learn how to tune it. until then,,,,, ur going to lose to my rotary on the street .... EVERYTIME!

 

You posted a "street" car? LOL! Wow, your thought of a "street" car is just.. amazing. Are you saying it's a street car because it runs in the "STREET" Class?

The car I posted is full interior, bone stock 17 year old suspension AND it passes CALIFORNIA STATE EMISSIONS. Yes, that's right, it passes emissions as it sits. It is driven 160 Miles to Sacramento Raceway, raced with and driven back another 160 miles after.

Other than the Heads, Cam and nitrous, the motor is untouched. You obviously missed the whole point of my prior post. It's ok though, obviously there is no reasoning with either of you so I'll just stay out of it.

 

LOL, again another idiot.."race his car"...its never race MY car. And hang with them? Please explain to me how a cam ONLY (no turbos) LS1 goes 10's...N/A!!! you truly are an idiot. And why would I need to go 8s...his car doesn't go 8s. And you say noones ever beat you on the street..do you have any videos of you beating up on any LS1 RX7s? And again Aris "street" car..your definition of a street car is bullshit. Does he drive his car to work EVERYDAY?..highly doubt it...I wonder how long his motor would last if it were truely a street car....not long. Again, please show me a video of you beating an LS1 or shut your mouth.

 

Don't worry, ill come down there. Englishtown is closer to you than it is me.

 

Yes that pink icon truly fits you. Please explain to me how a REAL STREET CAR that runs 9's isnt getting it done? Who gives a **** about a car that goes 9's it the motor only lasts 2,000 miles. These motors will stay consistant for over 150k. And please explain your theory of a V8 losing every time? Why because we only spin the motor to 6800rpms and you spin it to 10? Who needs to spin the motor to 10,000 rpms to make 500hp when my motor will make over 400lbs of tq by 2500rpms? Im done **** talking until this summer. Ill see you at the track.

 

funny thing is, take a high HP LSx motor, take a high HP rotary engine, see which one last's longer in an endurance of drag races.. keep dragging it.. see which one keeps running.. i garuntee the rotary will crap out while the guy in the LSx rx7 is driving home giving the rotary guy the finger out the window..

 

my point exactly..

 

One last thing...the best part about this situation for me..is when we race, I have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to lose and you have everything to lose. If we race and you win...O well, your car is faster ill shake your hand, stop talking **** (to you), and go onto the next race. If you lose..well you know its all over for you and your silly pride, and youll be thrown out of the rotary circle jerk.

 

its not a street car, unless it can be driven to work everyday w/out needing maintance every other week.. and can pass emissions w/out sweating.

 

Wait.... Here's my reply to your post. Please point out to me where I begin and end bashing what you said. And don't avoid the question like you have all my others.

Maybe you're talking about the end where I said that your car looks great.

Every thing else posted is fact. Sorry, the truth hurts sometimes.

Fact: TT Rotary boy doesn't know **** about rotaries or v8s
Fact: V8 swappers are treated like second class citizens on this forum
Fact: I'll race you, but I'm not going to make a 12 hr trip just to prove anything to you
Fact: 2MCHPWR has called you out and you never responded.
Fact: 10secs in a $50k car is not very impressive when you can do the same in a $4k car
Fact: You can't buy Apex seals at NAPA, but you can buy piston rings at NAPA.
Fact: Your car looks great
Fact: I consider every one who attends SC RX7 meets is a friend of mine and I have many of their phone numbers and dont' mind using it to ask for favors. They do the same.

There's the "bashing". Obviously you and I have 2 different views on what bashing is. And 2 different views on what a respect is. And what a fast car is.

And Hinson's car... the 8 second one. It can be built for much less than $50k. It's turboed, like yours, it runs on pump gas, like yours, and it's lisenced and street drivable.

 

Next time I'm up that way, I'll be glad to take your money. My only rules for racing heads up, is a comparable (AC, PS, full interior, etc), motor to motor, radial to radial. BTW, why don't you race 2MCHPWR? He's up your way and has offered to race you on a track. Or do you not want to race on a track with turns? The big ol turbo sticking in front of your 3 rotor screw up the handling? I'll bet you anything that your engine, fully dressed, weighs 100lbs more than a fully dressed LS1.

I watched your videos.... 10secs? How much did it cost you to get there? Heads & cam on an LS1 FC will dip into the 9s. Pretty common on the v8 board. My FC would run high 10s and I only took me $4k to get the LS1 in the car and running. That includes the price of the car. So, how much did you spend on yours again? Not only that, when you break something, can you go to NAPA and pick up a new part? O, sorry.

Your car looks great, and I'm sure you've spent a ton of money and time on it, but bang for buck, you can't beat an LS1 swap. I've got quite a few rotary friends. We hang, trade parts, go for drives, etc. They call me when they have piston problems, and I call them when I've got rotary or other RX7 problems. Again, I'm not bashing the rotary, if it's your thing, great, stop trolling over here because swappers aren't welcome elsewhere on the board.


RIGHT THERE slappy. i just asked about the v8s and thats what response came from you
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Spoken like a true ricer. If you notice this thread mainly consists of LS1 swappers defending themselves and you idiots constantly trying to dog us with your half assed comments that make absolutely no sense..if you took the time to actually took a look into an LS1 engines history and how it effects an RX7 chassis when merged, you wouldn't be making any of these ricer comments.