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Old 04-16-07 | 05:07 PM
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As always Jim, it's lookin' real good. What header setup are you plan on running... JTR or custom?

I'm planning my install of an LS2 in my FD. I am praying you guys decide to produce a couple more cradle setups. I'd like to keep my LS2 motor mounts and use a similar setup. Please let me know if you guys are going to make a small run. I'd like to first or second (hell even third) in line to pick one up. I can prepay as well!
Old 04-16-07 | 06:49 PM
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I'm still interested as well Jim, I know in the past it was not part of the plan to make any cradles, but if you reconsider (or your fabricato does) please let me know. Now that i am re-doing my engine setup (de-stroked ls7) I would definately like to use your cradle.
Old 04-16-07 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalsolo
Ahhh, that leads to the question, belt or exhaust gas driven?
Exhaust.

Originally Posted by 93silverbullet
What header setup are you plan on running... JTR or custom?
Custom, probably, unless someone makes shorties with V-band connectors that point forward and clear the shock towers on an FD.

Still waiting on an answer from my friend about whether or not he wants to "go into production" with the cradle, after the first three are done.
Old 04-17-07 | 02:17 AM
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The chassis looks nice.
Old 04-19-07 | 12:32 AM
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What are the casting numbers on your L92 heads?
Old 05-13-07 | 06:52 AM
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Car is so clean.

Should be, it's been sitting on Jackstands for a few years now.
Old 05-13-07 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
Should be, it's been sitting on Jackstands for a few years now.
You hurted my feewings.
Old 05-13-07 | 02:04 PM
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Damn, Jim, I didn't think I'd actually see you posting on here! Haha.

Car's looking excellent, man. It will be a ******* beast.
Old 05-13-07 | 02:24 PM
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It will be a ******* beast.
Maybe. The 9th anniversary of the last time it ran under its own power is less than a week away.
Old 05-14-07 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Exhaust.
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thats insane....haha...the suspense is KILLER!
Old 05-14-07 | 03:53 AM
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so you made up ur mind going to get the LS7 ?

but then the LS9 might be coming out soon
Old 05-14-07 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sub9lulu
so you made up ur mind going to get the LS7 ?

but then the LS9 might be coming out soon
Did you not just read about the L92 heads and the not sure about dry sump?
Old 05-14-07 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sub9lulu
the LS9 might be coming out soon
It likely won't be released as a crate engine until it's available in a vehicle, and that hasn't been announced to my knowledge. The LS9 is also based on the Magnuson supercharger which won't fit under a stock hood.
Old 05-14-07 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
...on the Magnuson supercharger which won't fit under a stock hood.
It would fit under the one in my sig!!!

Car looks awesome, looking forward to seeing it completed.

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Old 05-14-07 | 10:23 PM
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It would fit under the one in my sig!!!
No comment.
Old 05-15-07 | 07:16 AM
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aaawwwww, ouch.

Can't wait to see your progress
Old 05-18-07 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wptrx7
Can't wait to see your progress
I don't intend to start another project thread. This one was started just for those people who are interested in my engine cradle. It's wandered a little, but I have no intention of recreating the monstrosity thread.
Old 05-18-07 | 02:03 PM
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Back on topic with a few comments/questions:

The new sub-frame looks good Jim. It appears to be an elegantly simple and stout design. Could you comment on the engine and steering rack placement with your new sub-frame compared to stock/ Hinson's. Also, you stated previously that it should accommodate the earlier LS1-6 series blocks correct?

Would you happen to know the height differences between the LS2/7 versus the LS1/6 with the LS6 intake?

I like that you've incorporated the Corvette/GTO mounts which are an all-around better design than the clam shells.

I'm assuming that you are still waiting for the final thumbs-up on the cradle before you address the bump steer correction. I'd be curious to see whether the tie rod end extensions/shimming will accommodate 17" wheels.

All around good work.

Rob
Old 05-18-07 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wanklin
Could you comment on the engine and steering rack placement with your new sub-frame compared to stock/ Hinson's.
It's not in the stock position, but it's not moved as far as Hinson's.

Also, you stated previously that it should accommodate the earlier LS1-6 series blocks correct?
Should allow any LSx engine and oil pan configuration to be used, although JTR headers are designed to work only with the F-body oil pan, as far as I know.

Would you happen to know the height differences between the LS2/7 versus the LS1/6 with the LS6 intake?
I haven't measured. Are you referring to the top of the throttle body opening or the height of the intake runners?

The LS7 intake is definitely the tallest of the bunch, and as you can see by the pictures, that's what we've been using for test fitting. The L76 is only slightly shorter in the runner section, but I believe the TB opening is in the same location. The next smallest is the LS2, followed by the LS1/LS6 intakes. The LS7 is probably comparable to the FAST LSX intake.

I like that you've incorporated the Corvette/GTO mounts which are an all-around better design than the clam shells.
More room for exhaust and they weigh less, plus they make it easier to drop the engine into the car. The "biscuit" rubber mounts shown are aftermarket pieces from Street & Performance and we won't be using those in the final design.

I'm assuming that you are still waiting for the final thumbs-up on the cradle before you address the bump steer correction. I'd be curious to see whether the tie rod end extensions/shimming will accommodate 17" wheels.
I don't see why not. A shorter spacer stack should be required than with Hinson's cradle. We'll see when we get the cradle on Drew's car.
Old 05-19-07 | 12:44 PM
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Will we see pictures of that (cradle on Drew's car)?
Old 05-19-07 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wptrx7
Will we see pictures of that (cradle on Drew's car)?
Probably.
Old 05-26-07 | 03:00 PM
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Will it give more clearance for the FAST?
Old 05-26-07 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Klar
Will it give more clearance for the FAST?
No, not really, although you'll still be able to put one under a stock hood with some modification. Same goes for the LS7 intake in the "standard" engine location, probably.

The rear engine location will have more clearance at the front of the intake, but you won't be able to run a stock intake without significant modification to the firewall for clearance.
Old 05-27-07 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
The rear engine location will have more clearance at the front of the intake, but you won't be able to run a stock intake without significant modification to the firewall for clearance.
Are you doing this in order to have the shifter location in a stock position?

I am not sure I get what you are saying when you mentioned rear enginge location and more clearance at the fron of the intake, what does this mean?

Are we talking about cutting the lip on the fire wall or cutting a hole in the firewall?
Old 05-27-07 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wptrx7
I am not sure I get what you are saying when you mentioned rear enginge location and more clearance at the fron of the intake, what does this mean?
the cradle has provisions for two mounting points. One that will put the motor in a similar location to where the Hinson cradle locates it, and one that will move the engine back closer to the firewall. The "rear" position will require either a custom intake or significant modification of the firewall. It should also position the shifter to where it lines up better in the tunnel. Jim's mentioned that he doesn't want to cut the car any, so that should tell you how far back he's planning on moving the motor.

Are we talking about cutting the lip on the fire wall or cutting a hole in the firewall?
If you wanted to run the stock intake with the motor positioned back you'd have to do something to the firewall. Neither Jim nor I are taking that approach though.

At this point I'm undecided as to whether I'll just stick with my LS7 intake and the motor in the forward position, or if I'll go with a custom intake and move the motor back.


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