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Old 09-19-04, 05:03 PM
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Good News!

I just bought my FD roller, and now it is time to drop in the LS1 from my brothers totaled Trans Am. I'll keep you updated.
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Why are you putting that in a FD?? Another RX doomed to have a piston motor in it. So Wrong So Wrong
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This is not good MAV, this is not good!!
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why do poeple do this to an FD why not just keep those v8 in a domestic...its like putting a chevy v8 in a ferrari...talk about destroying the car...oh well to each his own...
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Not good news.
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Sweet!

Another problem free FD to soon be on the road
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awesome
should be fast and reliable
real track monster
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woot

anouther FD made better

I mean, no more turbo problems, no more apex seals to worry about... and you can even run it on 89 and get great power from the get go!

Go america!!
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Definetely GOOD news! You won't regret it
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heyaaaaa!
wicked good to hear!
congrats on the project!
nice to see another FD given its dose of 350+ rwhp (um, that is RELIABLE wheel hp) !!!
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Originally Posted by Jonas427
Good News. I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico!
Sweet!
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Originally Posted by KaiFD3S
why do poeple do this to an FD why not just keep those v8 in a domestic...its like putting a chevy v8 in a ferrari...talk about destroying the car...oh well to each his own...
Now thats an idea I need to try! But then again how many dead ferrari's do you see laying around? Gotta work with whats available........
Old 10-11-04, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by importrx7
Why are you putting that in a FD?? Another RX doomed to have a piston motor in it. So Wrong So Wrong
Originally Posted by mz7
This is not good MAV, this is not good!!
Originally Posted by KaiFD3S
why do poeple do this to an FD why not just keep those v8 in a domestic...its like putting a chevy v8 in a ferrari...talk about destroying the car...oh well to each his own...
My FC had a dying rotary and would have gone to the scrap heap. Thanks to me, it's a good-looking car that turns heads and gets comments everywhere it goes - and the engine swap and nice wheels are the only visual items that set it apart from 10000 other FC's running around the country.

My FD has no powertrain and the guy who blew the rotary up was already selling body parts off the car. I have basically saved it from the junkyard. So if the FD is such a collector's item, surely you don't think it should be stripped and crushed? Wouldn't that be sacriledge?

I'm going to put a reliable motor in there that will allow me to drive it every day without worrying about how cold it is, how hot it is, how long it's been since it was shut down, how much ATF I've dumped in the housings, or any of the other assorted tricks typical rotary owners do. I'm doing you a favor by not letting it die. Since obviously the RX7 is your god and savior, you should all be thankful.
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the thing I like about a ls-1 powered rx-7 is that you can have 400 rwhp car on pump gas, that runs and drives perfect with no headaches that comes with the rotary motor. Plus it also gets 30 MPG on the highway and 25+mpg in the city.

Back in 2000 I had a 93 BB base, with 90,000 miles. I only had the car for a year in which it ran for a total of 6 months. In that time I had to replace the engine (which was #3 for that car) rebuilt the turbos, and when I sold it only built 7 psi due to all of those lovely vacuum lines, need a clutch, and 5 gear syncro.

When I sold that car I told myself that I wouldn't own another RX-7 until (A) I could afford and be willing to fix any and all of the problems the car has or may have in the future or (B) do a engine swap that would allow the car to drive just like a stock car, without any problems that are associated with the rotary engine.

So now I have another FD, which is a 93 MB base rolling chassis with a complete LS-1 sitting right beside it waiting to go in. I know all of the diehard rotary nuts hate it when people put non-rotary engines into a rx-7. But I have a question for them.

What negative effects does a LS-1 powered FD have over a Rotary powered FD?

Cause it doesn't alter the handling or weight of the car, the car is more reliable, gets better gas mileage, its more tolerant to detonation, isn't effected by hot weather and it makes a lot more power easier.

Well I'm done venting for now, so rotary nuts flame away.
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Originally Posted by OneBadFox
What negative effects does a LS-1 powered FD have over a Rotary powered FD?

Cause it doesn't alter the handling or weight of the car, the car is more reliable, gets better gas mileage, its more tolerant to detonation, isn't effected by hot weather and it makes a lot more power easier.

Well I'm done venting for now, so rotary nuts flame away.
raises the cog and the polar moment of inertia
but then again if those are that important to you, 200hp would be plenty and you would drive and elise or something
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There are a couple of problems with the LS1 FD. First, it too easy to spin the tires all the way through 3rd gear so tires can get to be expensive. Second, you have to listen to all the rotary know it all's constantly tell you the car has no soul and is worthless. At least the second one only seems to happen on the internet.
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Originally Posted by wwilliam54
raises the cog and the polar moment of inertia
but then again if those are that important to you, 200hp would be plenty and you would drive and elise or something

Actually it doesn't raise the center of gravity. The crankshaft in an LS1 sits lower than the eccentric shaft in a rotary. It also has aluminum cylinder heads up high where the rotary has heavy turbos.

POLAR MOMENT OF INERTIA from:
http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-270.htm

Definition: The resistance of an object to rotational acceleration. When the mass of an object is distributed far from its axis of rotation, the object is said to have a high polar moment of inertia. When the mass distribution is close to the axis of rotation, it has a low polar moment of inertia. A mid-engined car has most of its mass within its wheelbase, contributing to a low polar moment of inertia, which, in turn, improves cornering turn-in.

The LS1 is an engine that sits lower in the chassis, weighs almost the same as the one being removed, and has a larger percentage of it's gross weight LOWER and FARTHER BACK than the one being removed.
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Actually they're problem is that it's American made but they won't admit that. They're too closed minded to learn anything about domestics and probably don't even know the LS1 isn't a cast iron carburated motor!

Here is a good example and you can search for more.

How many flamers post in the LS1 threads? Atleast 5 if not 20+

How many are in this thread? https://www.rx7club.com/other-engine-conversions-non-v-8-118/lives-333181/
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Originally Posted by wwilliam54
awesome
should be fast and reliable
real track monster
hell yes. wtf is up w/ the people so opposed to piston swaps doing in the "other converions" section!! WTF are you doing in this section if you hate pistons so much...
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Originally Posted by OneBadFox
the thing I like about a ls-1 powered rx-7 is that you can have 400 rwhp car on pump gas, that runs and drives perfect with no headaches that comes with the rotary motor. Plus it also gets 30 MPG on the highway and 25+mpg in the city.

Back in 2000 I had a 93 BB base, with 90,000 miles. I only had the car for a year in which it ran for a total of 6 months. In that time I had to replace the engine (which was #3 for that car) rebuilt the turbos, and when I sold it only built 7 psi due to all of those lovely vacuum lines, need a clutch, and 5 gear syncro.

When I sold that car I told myself that I wouldn't own another RX-7 until (A) I could afford and be willing to fix any and all of the problems the car has or may have in the future or (B) do a engine swap that would allow the car to drive just like a stock car, without any problems that are associated with the rotary engine.

So now I have another FD, which is a 93 MB base rolling chassis with a complete LS-1 sitting right beside it waiting to go in. I know all of the diehard rotary nuts hate it when people put non-rotary engines into a rx-7. But I have a question for them.

What negative effects does a LS-1 powered FD have over a Rotary powered FD?

Cause it doesn't alter the handling or weight of the car, the car is more reliable, gets better gas mileage, its more tolerant to detonation, isn't effected by hot weather and it makes a lot more power easier.

Well I'm done venting for now, so rotary nuts flame away.
oh oh oh!!! I got a negative!!

how about the whip lash you will experience when WOT!!
thats gotta be at LEAST a $500 chiropractor bill...damn...

another negative?

how about having to listen to all the **** you ******* rape in your car b/c you put a 300+hp engine in it

another?

how about having to put up w/ most of the members on this board...

btw...good luck with your swap man.
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Spin the tires all the way through 3rd........hmmmmmmmmm

sounds good to me!!

I am almost done with mine also,

Patriot stage 2 heads

Comp 228/232 over .588/.574 cam
ls-6 intake
Headers off of Hinsons car
Cobra read end W/ driveshaft shop axles
LS-1 edit
Tein suspension
SPL toe links
solid bushings, Exedy Hyper twin plate clutch

........the best thing is..........IM GONNA DRIFT IT!!!!!!! At the Falken Drift Showoff on the 21st of this month at Irwindale speedway!!!!!!!!!
Yea Im leaving the s13 at the shop, to rip this beast!!!!!
and a 500hp V8 FD makes more smoke than a 300hp 240!!!!!!!!!!
and that's what the crowd likes!
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Sticking a LS1 in a RX7 , best performance mod available for it! Its the best thing you can do for any rx7 I dont care what anyone says.
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Originally Posted by Crash Test Joey
Actually it doesn't raise the center of gravity. The crankshaft in an LS1 sits lower than the eccentric shaft in a rotary. It also has aluminum cylinder heads up high where the rotary has heavy turbos.

POLAR MOMENT OF INERTIA from:
http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-270.htm

Definition: The resistance of an object to rotational acceleration. When the mass of an object is distributed far from its axis of rotation, the object is said to have a high polar moment of inertia. When the mass distribution is close to the axis of rotation, it has a low polar moment of inertia. A mid-engined car has most of its mass within its wheelbase, contributing to a low polar moment of inertia, which, in turn, improves cornering turn-in.

The LS1 is an engine that sits lower in the chassis, weighs almost the same as the one being removed, and has a larger percentage of it's gross weight LOWER and FARTHER BACK than the one being removed.
my bad, forgot, aluminum
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