FC + 89 Crown Vic 5.0
#54
Here is a small update. The clutch cable is installed and routed, leading to an 89 Mustang self adjusting clutch pedal & mechanism which were adapted to the stock brake / clutch pedal mount frame. I've been formulating my strategy for routing the fuel lines & filter as they would be right next to the drivers side header as Mazda placed them. Looks like my TII driveshaft can be cut short and a T5 slip yoke welded on as the T5 output shaft is further back than the TII transmission's was.
Sorry, no pics because I didn't check my camera's old Ni-Cd batteries before leaving for the farm today. It looks like after a few hundred cycles they don't stay charged for very long.
The real puzzle will soon be routing all the stock emission control stuff from the Mustang donor car, I sure can't wait.
Sorry, no pics because I didn't check my camera's old Ni-Cd batteries before leaving for the farm today. It looks like after a few hundred cycles they don't stay charged for very long.
The real puzzle will soon be routing all the stock emission control stuff from the Mustang donor car, I sure can't wait.
#55
Clutch cable:
Rerouting the fuel lines away from the exhaust manifold:
Clearance when the wheel is turned all the way:
Making the dipstick work with my installation instead of the crown vic which had the manifold facing the other way:
Anyone know where to get a water pump that is shorter than stock?
Rerouting the fuel lines away from the exhaust manifold:
Clearance when the wheel is turned all the way:
Making the dipstick work with my installation instead of the crown vic which had the manifold facing the other way:
Anyone know where to get a water pump that is shorter than stock?
Last edited by 88IntegraLS; 05-13-06 at 07:27 PM.
#57
For the water pump you may check your crown vic setup against a 86-93 Mustang setup. Keep in mind the direction of the water pump if you're running the serpentine setup...I believe the mustang is reverse flow, crown vic I am not sure about. I do know that my 86 crown vic had 2 belts while my 91 mustang only had 1 belt.
If all else fails, I believe the newer 94-95 mustangs have an even shorter serpentine accessory setup. Might also check the accessory setup from an explorer with a 5.0
Hope some of this was helpful...good luck with your swap.
If all else fails, I believe the newer 94-95 mustangs have an even shorter serpentine accessory setup. Might also check the accessory setup from an explorer with a 5.0
Hope some of this was helpful...good luck with your swap.
#60
Thanks. I'm really surprised that it went in like that, but there was just enough room behind the oil pan to make the pocket for the steering rack which made it all possible.
As far as the water pump, I just broke down and bought a stock 89 mustang pump and will adapt it to the installation. It will involve grinding down the center shaft that protrudes behind the fan clutch flange, but considering how seldom water pumps get replaced, it is an inconvenience I'm willing to build into future engine maintenance.
The parts counter guy told me if the motor had been a chivvie, the water pump flange could be moved up or down the shaft because they are pressed on unlike the ford units which have a keyway.
As far as the water pump, I just broke down and bought a stock 89 mustang pump and will adapt it to the installation. It will involve grinding down the center shaft that protrudes behind the fan clutch flange, but considering how seldom water pumps get replaced, it is an inconvenience I'm willing to build into future engine maintenance.
The parts counter guy told me if the motor had been a chivvie, the water pump flange could be moved up or down the shaft because they are pressed on unlike the ford units which have a keyway.
#61
The finished fuel & emission line routing in the wheel well:
I will make an aluminum cover for them to prevent damage from flying rocks.
Here is the situation with the fan clutch and fan:
I'll see if they'll let me use a manual lathe at work to make an aluminum stand-off to keep the fan centered while moving it back a half inch or so. Who knows I could make it out of a piece of scrap titanium, there is a bunch of it lying around. I've got a titanium book end at my desk.
I will make an aluminum cover for them to prevent damage from flying rocks.
Here is the situation with the fan clutch and fan:
I'll see if they'll let me use a manual lathe at work to make an aluminum stand-off to keep the fan centered while moving it back a half inch or so. Who knows I could make it out of a piece of scrap titanium, there is a bunch of it lying around. I've got a titanium book end at my desk.
Last edited by 88IntegraLS; 05-20-06 at 09:51 PM.
#64
Completion of fuel line wheel well rock covers:
I had a local driveline shop take my TII driveshaft and weld on a T5 slip yoke at the right length (which was shorter than the stock TII length), and it looks like they turned it on a lathe and rebalanced it. It fit right in:
Now it's header time. The good news is that stock Mustang headers fit the FC engine bay well. My dipstick clears them as predicted, clutch cable, etc. all stay away. The former fuel line routing would have been a disaster so it's good that they no longer run up the firewall.
There is a slight problem though:
The firewall will need more work where the header collectors are located, but otherwise it looks like a pretty simple exhaust routing.
I had a local driveline shop take my TII driveshaft and weld on a T5 slip yoke at the right length (which was shorter than the stock TII length), and it looks like they turned it on a lathe and rebalanced it. It fit right in:
Now it's header time. The good news is that stock Mustang headers fit the FC engine bay well. My dipstick clears them as predicted, clutch cable, etc. all stay away. The former fuel line routing would have been a disaster so it's good that they no longer run up the firewall.
There is a slight problem though:
The firewall will need more work where the header collectors are located, but otherwise it looks like a pretty simple exhaust routing.
#65
88integra,
Nice fabrication work! Separates the men from the boys when you see someone think things out and do a quality job. Just hoping this engine wont be megasquirted?? I had bad experiences with megacrap and remember you had issues too. I too sold off my megacrap and 13B and went with a LT-1 in my FB...been driving it for 3 days now. You wont regret the swap,Shawn
Nice fabrication work! Separates the men from the boys when you see someone think things out and do a quality job. Just hoping this engine wont be megasquirted?? I had bad experiences with megacrap and remember you had issues too. I too sold off my megacrap and 13B and went with a LT-1 in my FB...been driving it for 3 days now. You wont regret the swap,Shawn
#66
Lol, my megasquirt worked well in fuel mode only for the month I used it on the NA wankel and I was thinking I'd try it again, but I have the stock Mustang ECU and harness just in case it blows up.
Thanks for the compliment. This project is a lot more fun than the ones I've been overseeing in my new (temporary) job in a cnc shop. I don't have to deal with CMM inspection clowns or pushy managers. I see why most managers are arrogant though: after years of being slapped around, you learn the trade.
Thanks for the compliment. This project is a lot more fun than the ones I've been overseeing in my new (temporary) job in a cnc shop. I don't have to deal with CMM inspection clowns or pushy managers. I see why most managers are arrogant though: after years of being slapped around, you learn the trade.
#69
Mild update for anyone who is wondering what's taking me so long. I'm about to send the block to get bored .03 over, AFR aluminum heads should arrive before next weekend, cam regrind should be done by then as well, and the plan is to assemble the beast and drop it in the car a week from today.
Here is an article featuring the heads I'll be using. Ported cobra intake, stock cam, headers, H pipe, and that's about it. 300 rwhp and 340 rwtq, damn near smog legal too.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2003/06/afrinstall/
Here is an article featuring the heads I'll be using. Ported cobra intake, stock cam, headers, H pipe, and that's about it. 300 rwhp and 340 rwtq, damn near smog legal too.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2003/06/afrinstall/
#70
Integra, Your doing a sweet job but I think your spending too much money..lol. Summers short throw it together and drive it...please. I strongly advise you ditch megasquirt...unless you like frustrating electronic promgramming and weeks of posting on forums wasting precious time. Either way its your car and your headaches. Really like your fab work though not many guys on this forum are that mechanically inclined or good at fabricating,most talk a lot but work little. Wish you lived in my town we could build one serious car! Shawn
#71
Considering how much money I threw away at the rotary when it was weighing down the car, I can afford a grand for a pair of decent aluminum heads.
The goal is to have an engine / trans. for roughly the cost of a used LS1 / T56 that weighs the same, but is in nearly rebuilt condition. So far it looks like I can beat that; the whole swap might come in around $4k.
bwahahaha, this is just practice for something bigger once I'm finally out of school.
The goal is to have an engine / trans. for roughly the cost of a used LS1 / T56 that weighs the same, but is in nearly rebuilt condition. So far it looks like I can beat that; the whole swap might come in around $4k.
many guys on this forum are that mechanically inclined or good at fabricating,most talk a lot but work little
#72
Originally Posted by 88IntegraLS
bwahahaha, this is just practice for something bigger once I'm finally out of school.
keep it up man. . . you may just end up influencing me enough to put a 5.0 in my 3rd gen.
#73
Here is one of my many long term goals - to build a full size version of this aircraft which I designed:
You don't know what speed is until you've flown low over terrain at 200+. No speeding tickets either.
It would be nice to get moderately wealthy and build a little 1000 foot airstrip in the backyard of my hillside estate, too. It's only money, lol.
You don't know what speed is until you've flown low over terrain at 200+. No speeding tickets either.
It would be nice to get moderately wealthy and build a little 1000 foot airstrip in the backyard of my hillside estate, too. It's only money, lol.
#74
Small update: Looks like I might have to push back my deadline for the engine build by a week or two. I decided to have the rotating assembly balanced by the machine shop which is grinding the cam, and I am waiting on bearings, rings, and a suitable flywheel which are all needed for a good balance job. The block bore isn't done yet either. Machine shops can really slow down a project!
Oh well. I can wait a few more weeks for 300+ reliable rear wheel horsepower on 87 octane.
Oh well. I can wait a few more weeks for 300+ reliable rear wheel horsepower on 87 octane.
#75
Nice! Its worth the wait believe me. While your waiting maybe you can sort out any remaining issues with wiring,adapting the tach to a V8 if needed etc etc. I just drove my LT-1 powered FB last night and words cannot describe the satisfaction knowing you built it and it works great. My only problem is exercising enough self control to not go too fast. I have no idea how fast the car is numbers wise but can say its a lot faster than a turbo rotary or anything Ive ever driven. Its worth all the work,Shawn