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Old 10-06-16 | 03:10 PM
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539whp / 407wtq - EFR 9180 IWG 13BT TII

I posted it up in my build thread, but I figured I'd repost it here.

I dyno'd my car for the first time last weekend. Car did well - didn't get hot or have igniton break up, or spray apex seals out the mufflers. Can't ask for much more than that.

Ultimately, the care made 539whp at 25.5psi and 407wtq at about 26.5psi. I had trouble getting a flat curve with the internal wastegate and wasn't able to get it completely flat before we had to finish up.
Wastegate duty cycle was set soft in the low range which is why spool up is so slow. It makes 20 psi by 3500 if I turn the DC% up, but we were walking a fine line of over/under boosting on the dyno and left it soft for now. We actually hit 305kpa boost cut a few times around 4500rpm when trying to make changes to the boost curve. Not sure what the torque was, but I’m sure it was a big jump. Pretty amazed by how well water injection worked.
Next step will be to get closed-loop boost control working on the street and pick up some serious low end and top end power

Overall, I’m pretty happy with the power the car makes. It’s a handfull on the street. Zero traction in 1/2nd gear. 3rd hooks up okay, but definitely moves around a lot.
Everyone that rides in the car can’t believe how long the power band is. It just keeps pulling and pulling.

Here is a quick rundown of the setup:

Engine:
  • Late S5 TII irons with FD castings
  • Pineapple Racing “Large” intake street port template – Makes around 14” of vacuum at 1000rpm idle. Pretty lumpy and a lot of overlap at part throttle.
  • S5 TII rotors and housings
  • Earlier port opening by about 3-4mm. Stock closing timing
  • Atkins standard apex seals
  • Atkins solid corner seals w/ FD springs
  • FD side seal springs (Inconel)
Intake/Fuel
  • S5 TII upper+lower intake, Shaved S5 TB, Rotaryworks 3” TB Inlet
  • Walbro 400 pump
  • Bosch 2200cc NGI-2 injectors X 4
  • Stock fuel rails/8mm hardlines, 6AN to/from fuel rails
  • Aeromotive FPR

ECU:
  • Megasquirt MS3X ECU
  • Boost control
  • Idle control
  • Traction control
  • Launch control
  • Rolling anti-lag
  • AFR autotune
  • Amazing software

Intercooler:
  • Ebay 3.5” IN/OUT “1200hp” water-to-air intercooler
  • Roush Stage3 Mustang intercooler heat exchanger
  • GT500 water-to-air intercooler pump and expansion tank
  • 3” piping


Exhaust
  • 4” Downpipe homemade
  • 60mm external wastegate in downpipe as cutout (works great when it works)
  • 3” Vibrant Ultraquiet resonator
  • Vintage ‘80s Racing Beat 3” Catback (Car is super quiet cruising around)

Turbo:
  • BW EFR 9180 IWG .92A/R
  • Turblown cast IWG manifold, 2000*F ceramic coated
  • Turbosmart dual port wastegate actuator (14psi spring)
  • MAC 4-port boost control solenoid
  • AEM water-meth pump and nozzle, 1000c nozzle and 50% duty cycle on the pump (~500cc/min water)
  • Devil’s Own water tank, 2.25 gallons







Old 10-08-16 | 12:01 AM
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congrats
Old 10-08-16 | 12:21 AM
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Solid numbers! congrats. Interesting aftercooling setup, cool build.
This was just pump fuel + water @26 psi?
Old 10-08-16 | 12:23 AM
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Yes, 93 octane (AKI) and 400-500 cc/min of distilled water.
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What are you using to control the water injection?
Old 10-10-16 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by driftxsequence
What are you using to control the water injection?
I'm using a AEM 200psi pump and a Devil's Own 2.25 gallon tank mounted in the hatch area. AEM 1000cc nozzle sprayer.

I'm actually using the ECU to pulse the pump. The Megasquirt has a 3D map that outputs pump duty cycle by psi and rpm. It's super easy and can be tuned from the laptop. I also have an AEM water meth gauge that gets data logged so I have an idea of how much water it's using.
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Was this on pump fuel? Or corn? I assume pump due to using meth.
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Pump 93 octane and water only. No meth.
Old 03-12-17 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Shainiac
Pump 93 octane and water only. No meth.
very nice. I have a very similar long block and I'm running s5 upper and lower intake manifold. And a t51r Kai kit. I'm expecting similar results. This is why I asked. Good numbers for pump man
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Originally Posted by GarageSpec
very nice. I have a very similar long block and I'm running s5 upper and lower intake manifold. And a t51r Kai kit. I'm expecting similar results. This is why I asked. Good numbers for pump man
Thanks, I appreciate it. The setup worked really well, but I drove the car a lot and was concerned with reliability in the long run. The car is currently under the knife getting an aluminum 5.3 LS, twin EFR 6758 turbos, T56 Magnum, and Ronin 8.8" IRS. Should be bulletproof and good for another 200whp if I need it lol
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one thing I am debating is running a dual egt setup. I'm not a fan of tapping my manifold. And I'm trying to decide if the s5 lim since it's far superior to s6 of it's needed with my setup. Just for monitoring/tuning capacities.

any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by GarageSpec
one thing I am debating is running a dual egt setup. I'm not a fan of tapping my manifold. And I'm trying to decide if the s5 lim since it's far superior to s6 of it's needed with my setup. Just for monitoring/tuning capacities.

any thoughts?
EGTs are easily debatable. You'll get different reading depending on where you take your measurements and how well insulated your manifold is. With the Turblown IWG manifold, it's pretty straightforward since it's pretapped and the same distance from the port. The trouble I had with EGT is that the extreme rotary temperatures damaged my nice Omega thermocouples. After a day on the dyno, I stopped getting readings and after I pulled the thermocouples, they were deformed front he heat.

I'd use whatever manifold you already have lol
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