But you know what Alex? If you check out say, the Supra Forums, those guys have no prob sharing tips and "trade secrets" for making huge power, and that's why a Supra making 500hp ain't nada on there. It's normal.

I'm sure if 3rd gen guys weren't so competitive about trying to make their own FD the best/fastest etc, and just openly and freely shared info, there would be a lot more FDs making a lot more power.

My $0.02
~Ramy

 

Personally I would like to see another dyno chart taken from a dynojet showing SAE corrected #s from 3k to 8k rpms.

 

not really!
whats the point?
i agree with rynberg.

 

Gee, if everyone had that attitude, this forum wouldn't exist and people would be blowing motors right and left, just like in the first few years the FD was out.

EDIT: Besides, if he wanted to keep his modded turbos secret, you wouldn't expect him to post a dyno plot on the forum then. The last person I remember doing that was Rikki, and I don't think anyone here misses him.....

 

This dyno is not really 100% valid to compare with most dynos we normally see...

The Mustang dyno allows you to load the engine heavily without increasing the RPM, thus building up a lot of boost at a very low RPM. Your typical Dynojet doesn't do this.. so when you step on the gas, the RPM starts going up right away and the boost has to play catchup (turbo lag)...

Anyhow... not trying to say this is a bad car or anything... just trying to explain where the secret sauce lies.

 

I think you hit the nail on the head.

Spank, any chance you can strap your beast on a dynojet and see what she puts down?

 

Come on guys give me a break! I race in SM2 against another RX7 driver that is so good, his car doesn't have to be as fast, he will tell you everything you need to do to go faster, and he will still kick your butt. There is also another driver that is very good but driving in another class. So give me a break for not telling you everything about my motor and car.
I would like to at some point in my life before I die win the nationals in my 7. But with the competition being what it is I do not know if it will happen.

I am having a hard enough time against the other drivers that are much better drivers or have far more money than I.

I posted the dyno to show you how much power can be had down low by our cars. I will be dynoing my car again once I have the water injection hooked up. If you want I will post that when it happens. If you don't want to see it unless you know the mods that is fine also. I am not trying to beat anybody for the most power. I just posted this for info since I am quite proud of what a little 1.3 ltr can do when tuned correctly. I have even told a few people and shown them the chart, the ones who know me say wow that's great. Others say they don't know if it can be done, re dyno it. It seems very strange that nobody believes numbers unless you can show a dyno. I believe this is good, since I hear people all the time talking about how much power they have, and I know what I have done to the car, and the money I have invested and yet, others say they have more power. I show a dyno and still get doubters. Some people on this forum know me personally and know what I have is for real. Turbo Jeff has worked on my car and even driven it. Ask him how fast it is and if it gets up and goes. Others don't know me and may doubt the numbers, but you know what, I'm completly ok with that. But it is also for that reason that I wonder to myself, what do I have to prove by showing anything else?

Anyway, I am impressed with the little 1.3 motor and what it can do when tuned properly. My dyno post is to let you see that with the sequential system in tack it can work very well. You do not have to go single to get big power. In fact if you go single, I guarantee you that on a autox course I will out accelerate you out of every corner every time. I can also tell you this, my car prepared as it is would not make a very good street car. I mean that sincerly. I have a stock 3rd and it is a wonderful street car. This car is really too fast for driving on the street. It has so much power and with the car weighing so little it will break the tires loose unless you are going pretty fast. I would not reccomend driving the car with 245's nor would I suggest driving it when it is wet. A great car but unless you turned down the boost it would get you in trouble.

So to close this I hope you like the dyno and use it as a guage as to how well the little motor can do down low when tuned for good low end power and not just big numbers on to. If you want, later this year when I get the car back on the dyno with the water injection and the new intercooler it has, I will let you know how it did.

Good luck to all, and to all a good night!

Spank

 

Sounds good . Not to be belabor the point, but if possible please try and dyno on a dynojet, not a mustang dyno. Thanks!

Rich

 

I understand your reasoning for not being more forthcoming. I hope you can understand our curiousity for what you are running.

I would love to see a dyno plot from 2000 rpm and up....Dynojet or not. SAE Corrected is always nice though and makes for a much more valid comparison between other readings.

 

I have had the honor of co-driving for Spank and must say his car drives every bit like that graph looks. The power is there in the whole power band, throttle response is the best I have ever driven in an RX-7 which is quite a few, even with the few different setups I tried, and the transition is pretty much nonexistent, you just have some more power come on strong around 4500-5000. Probably the easiest big power car I have driven. I hopped in it and the first run I beat my own cars best time by 6 seconds. The graph is from a mustang dyno because thats what his tuner has, I doubt he is going to have the car dynoed on a dynojet anytime soon but you never know. Wouldn't mind seeing a dynojet graph sae corrected from 2000RPM to 8500.

The secret to the power? Its all in the tuning.

 

I would like to thank the Icemaster for co-driving with me on Sunday. He jumped right in and took off. He helped me with warming the tires and hopefully I helped him in learning how to go faster.

Thanks Icemaster for the co-drive. We will be doing it again.

Allan

 

I wonder if the spank-man was running BNR stage IIs?

I guess he sold the car

 

Actually they were a custom set of Turbonetics. However they burned up due to haveing to bore out the inside to large and eliminating a oiling ring.

Have a better set on now and it makes more power than ever.

Spank

 

the spank man is back!

pics? are you running a stock manifold? hope you aren't still playing the secret sauce routine

 

Problem I had was that I was still racing the car and numerous people that I race with are also on this board.

Now I race a C5 Corvette.

If you would like to know the improvements that I have done just email me privately. And swear to all that is holy that you will not tell.

I can tell you I have not dynoed the new turbos, however I have much better pull in the primary turbo, and pulls longer on the 2nd turbo. I have been told by very reliable sources that if Steve Kahn were to tune my car I should put 400 or more at the wheels. What makes this nice is that it is done with the primaries.

I still have Spank, since If I need to I can always run him in a pinch.

However having a C5 that is incredibly fast, and a LS6 94 RX7, my modded Spank never gets driven any more.

I am actually making some changes to him. Pulled off the CF hood, pulling off the CF fenders, pulled out the Traction Control, pulled out the Fuel Resevior. Making it appear closer to stock so I can sell it and ask less since I pulled off some really expensive parts.

Problem now is I have so many extra parts.

I will be having a sale this year with all the extra parts I have as well as the race parts I have. Heck, I even have Tri-Point bars that have never been put on the car, just sitting in my garage.

Spank

 

thanks for the info spank man. you have PM

how much hp is your C5 and LS6-7 putting down?

 

C5 is 470 hp and 460 tq. It puts it down very low in the RPM band. My LS6-7 puts 380 and 360 tq.

Allan

 

any pics of your ls6-7?

 

Not to be an *** (actually i dont care) but your "dyno chart" looks awfully fishy and those numbers also look pretty fishy. I have a 35r with a .86 exhaust side with a long runner manifold and a bunch of other torque increasing things and i only make half that at 3k. Seems kind of off. I dont know. Maybe you are just a magical man with magic engine and turbo parts from space or something.

 

I think spank man checked out with his vette

 

spank is legit

 

nothing looks fishy at all in that dyno chart

 

three year old thread last posted to two years ago.

 

Anyone ever get the recipe for the spank secret sauce

 

LOL, just start by doing the things he did mention or the dyno chart hints at and you will get the same numbers!

Hybrid sequential twins with a bigger exhaust and compressor wheels.

Full boost on primary turbo.

"Mild" streetport with as early opening as possible and conservative closing/port/runner volume (see how power is dropping off up top).

As big a downpipe and exhaust as you can fit under the car.

as big intakes/filters as you can fit under the hood.

Dyno on Mustang dyno as they really can load the car up for good spool whereas dynojet doesn't even give you the load you will get on the road.