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Old 05-16-06 | 09:29 PM
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When trying to get the biggest lip what offset?

So, I really don't understand the offsets and everything, but I know that with the FD's, we cannot get too much lip compared to the Z's and G35's and so forth. What I am getting is that if you use a +20 offset, you will get a big lip but will make a smaller tire? Those are offsets for Z's and G35's. On the FD we have basically a +45 offset is ideal right? Is there anyway we'd be able to fit +35 in the rear? Would this maximize the amount of lip we can get? So would I go 18x8.5 +45 in front and then 18x9.5 +35 in rear, this would reduce the size of the tire I can use right?

Or if I went 19x8.5 +45 and 19x9.5 +35 in the rear?

I don't know, I'm trying to figure this out but any help would be great. I know Rynberg can help if you read this. He seems to know his stuff. And I already know most of you think 19's are too big for the FD so please don't flame on that. I am not decided yet on what I want to do, but I'd like to figure out possibilities to get the largest lip possible.
Old 05-16-06 | 10:13 PM
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Lippage has more to do with wheel design than offset, but yes, a higher offset reduces the amount of lippage that can achieved.

I would not run less than a +38 offset at the rear with a 9.5" wheel. A +35 would probably JUST fit with a 265 tire, but I don't like offsetting that far off the stock value (+50). You could go down to a +40 up front with an 8.5" wheel.

If you don't understand basic wheel concepts like offset, you should go to www.tirerack.com and read their wheel and tire tech guides. Lots of diagrams and simple descriptions of several different aspects.
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Like Rynberg stated, it has more to do with wheel design. You can have the same offset but different "lip". When I bought my Volks, the website list the amount of lip on each....
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I think I finally found my wheels that I want for my FD. It will be a hyper black color with a polished lip. I have pictures of the wheels on a G35 so you guys can see. I know that G35's are able to have large lips, but they come in a 20mm, 35mm, and 42mm offsets, and 18x8.5/18x9.5/19x8.5/19x9.5 sizes.

If I were to go with 18x8.5 and 18x9.5 I would want the +42 offset all around or would it be best to try and fit a +35 in the rear and keep +42 in the front? What size tire would I run? 245/40/18 in front and 275/35/18 if I had +42 all around, and if I had a +35 in the rear a 265/35/18?

Also, if I were to go with 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 same question, which offset would be best for fitment, yet again have the most lip and what tire sizes would be best?

I have attatched the wheels on the G35 and a picture of my car, hopefully that color will work well with my cars color.
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Old 05-17-06 | 12:37 AM
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Best would be definitely +42 all around.

I would run 245/35 and 265/35. You could run a 275/35 at the rear too, I just don't want to run such a tall tire.

For 19s, it would be 235/35 or 245/30 and 265/30 or 275/30.

19s will be expensive, make the brakes look tiny, and will be easily suspectable to damage.
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Yeh I understand that, you've said that in all your posts lol I've done a search on 19's on FD's but like I said, I'll have these for just looks, not really going to be bringing it to the track and all.

We'll see what I do, but do you think those wheels will look nice on my color blue?
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Alright, got off the phone with one of the guys at the wheel places and he said that he'd do

18x8.5 +32 and 18x9.5 +35 offset with no problems or rubbing

Size tire would be 235/40/18 on the fronts and 265/35/18 on the rears

2.5" front lip and 3" lip in the rear

These offsets seem low for our FD's... but he's said he's done this setup before
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He's wrong.
Old 05-17-06 | 09:08 PM
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why not get the ssr gt3 wheels? They look almost identical and are probably cheaper. Not to mention they are VERY LIGHT and rigid.
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Originally Posted by purerx7
why not get the ssr gt3 wheels? They look almost identical and are probably cheaper. Not to mention they are VERY LIGHT and rigid.
GT3s are not cheap or light (upper 20 lb-range), but they are rigid.
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hmmm i thought the ssr wheels were known for being light, must of been thinking of something else.
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Originally Posted by purerx7
hmmm i thought the ssr wheels were known for being light, must of been thinking of something else.
The SSR Competitions, GT-1s, GT-2s, GT-7s, are all lightweight wheels. The GT-3 is more of a fashion wheel and is a 3-piece.
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il post some pictures of my J11 with 315/35/17 when i get it out of the garage. they have real nice lip.
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Don't trust any random wheel vendor out there. They rarely know fitments and are just assuming by looking at printed fitment guides.

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FYI, for the most part a lower offset and larger lip typically are only seen in multipiece wheels. The way molds are for one piece wheels, the lip is usually the same regardless of offset. Rather than displacing the location of the disk/face, they add or remove material from the mating surface to change offset.

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Originally Posted by HardHitter
Alright, got off the phone with one of the guys at the wheel places and he said that he'd do

18x8.5 +32 and 18x9.5 +35 offset with no problems or rubbing

Size tire would be 235/40/18 on the fronts and 265/35/18 on the rears

2.5" front lip and 3" lip in the rear

These offsets seem low for our FD's... but he's said he's done this setup before
As Rynberg says, he's wrong. The guy is pushing you on to a fitment that just over what is safe. Buy from Rishie/ARD T2; he's done more FD fitments then any other wheel vendor I know.
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I have the SSR GT3s with 18x8.5(245/40) front and 18x10(275/35) with no rubbing problems at all.
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So YOU WANT BIG LIP YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THIS: IN ORDER OF PRIORITY.

1. Spoke Architecture: A wheel with a curved spoke or "Knuckled" spoke pointing towards the back of a wheel, like the Meister S1 or AME Circlar Spec R, will produce a larger lip than a FLAT FACE wheel like a VS-XX etc...

2. Consider the "Disk" you will need as well. HI Disk, LO Disk, Super LO Disk.

3. Remember that Big Brake kits will cause you to lose lippage, the only way to gain this back is by going widebody.

4. The offset is important but only relative to the factors above.

"On a high offset vehicle like the FD or S2K you will want to find a curved spoke wheel to maximize lip depth." Don't get a big brake kit, lolz. Get a LO Disk wheel for the FD. The caliper is pretty sunk in relation the the rotor hat.

Hope that helps a bit.

Thanks, Rishie
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This thread was 2 months old and it just got started again? lol

Oh well, thanks for the info! Coilovers come first before wheels though :-)




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