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ptrhahn 03-24-04 09:01 AM

Sleep/all:
I assume the pic opf the red car next to the cop car is what we're talking about... look how low the front is compared to the rear. Eibachs are too low in the front IMO, and not enough in the rear... when I had them, i ran them on the highest perch up front (koni), and the middle perch in the rear to attempt to even the car out... and I could even have used the lower perch in the rear. When I went to GC's, I set the front fender heights 1/4" higher in the front than before, and almost 3/4" lower in the rear, and the rears are still 1/4" higher!! (note I also have taller wheels in the back too).

IMHO, this is the problem w/ the Eibachs, and the cause of alot of front end rubbing when using them... note the RBs only lower the front .65", and the rear more like 1.35".




Originally posted by SleepR1
Hmm, howard coleman thought Eibach Pro Kit springs would work well. I'm surprised you're getting some rubbing. According to howard coleman, the Eibachs should be a conservative drop with about 350 lb/in spring compression rate? I have H&Rs. Perhaps the H&Rs are stiffer in spring rate after all, since I've had no rubbing problems with 9 x 17, 45-mm offset with 255/40-17, nor with 9.5 x 17 Pirelli P6000s, 42-mm offset with 275/40-17 Hoosier R3S03s up front?

NukeGenius 03-24-04 09:10 AM

If that's the case I may change to the RB's in the near future. I do like how low the car is, but if the RB can get me the same handling characteristics without the rubbing, I'll probably switch. I'll see what happens when I move my battery first though because its the left side that rubs anyways.

ptrhahn 03-24-04 09:29 AM

I thought the RBs were great w/ R1 shocks.

FWIW, even with the taller 235/45/17 tires, the drivers-side front fender on my car was only 24.625" off the ground w/ the Eibachs. while the passenger rear was 25.625 w/ 275/40/17 (and using middle koni perch). If you don't have koni's, its even worse...

Those heights just aren't right. Now i'm at 25" all around (or thereabouts, it isn't corner ballanced) w/ the GC's.

SleepR1 03-24-04 09:44 AM


Originally posted by ptrhahn
Those heights just aren't right. Now i'm at 25" all around (or thereabouts, it isn't corner ballanced) w/ the GC's.
I'm nearly there with H&R Springs:

LF: 25
RF: 25-1/8
LR: 25-1/4
RR: 25-1/2

SleepR1 03-24-04 09:49 AM


Originally posted by NukeGenius
If that's the case I may change to the RB's in the near future. I do like how low the car is, but if the RB can get me the same handling characteristics without the rubbing, I'll probably switch. I'll see what happens when I move my battery first though because its the left side that rubs anyways.
NO! Read the current RB spring threads. You'll get rubbing with RBs up front because their spring rate is no different from stock spring rates (according to howard coleman's measurements of the stock springs and Rx7 Store's published spring rate data for RB springs). My guess is the current RB spring is a different spring rate than the old RB spring that Peter had? Right now the H&R seems to be the best spring for stock-style shocks. PianoProdigy seems to be having trouble with H&R, but there's a question of whether his suspension is in need of attention (rubber pieces, front sway bar mounts, etc.).

SleepR1 03-24-04 09:51 AM


Originally posted by ptrhahn
I thought the RBs were great w/ R1 shocks.

FWIW, even with the taller 235/45/17 tires, the drivers-side front fender on my car was only 24.625" off the ground w/ the Eibachs. while the passenger rear was 25.625 w/ 275/40/17 (and using middle koni perch). If you don't have koni's, its even worse...

Those heights just aren't right. Now i'm at 25" all around (or thereabouts, it isn't corner ballanced) w/ the GC's.

My experience with RBs between 1997 and 1999 were that they sagged over time on the drivers side. They were too soft and caused minor rubbing with stock sized wheels/tires. Gave a harsh ride on the streets. The sagging and rough ride were the 2 major reasons why I switched to H&Rs in 2000. Have not any trouble with the H&Rs over the 4+ years I've had them.

RX7 RAGE 03-24-04 10:29 PM

http://i.myspace.com/12/69/549621/6093041_l.JPG

rear shot, sorry for the bad pic lol

SleepR1 03-25-04 12:18 PM

Nice cars, Rage. Where was this pic taken. Backdrop looks rather "ritzy"?

http://i.myspace.com/12/69/549621/6093041_l.JPG

I'm half expecting Jennifer Aniston to appear in the backdrop LOL :)

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...postid=2828312

coincopy 03-25-04 06:53 PM

hey crazy canuck, any pics of that widebody fc?

RX7 RAGE 03-25-04 07:34 PM

widebody fc? what are u talking about? if its his avatar its the feed fd btw, pic was taken in front of my friends condo. :)

CrazyCanuck 03-25-04 07:51 PM


Originally posted by RX7 RAGE
widebody fc? what are u talking about? if its his avatar its the feed fd
That is correct, Feed FD.

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...postid=2830235

NukeGenius 03-25-04 08:40 PM

Pretty front bumper. That's why mine is sitting in my storage room awaiting installation when I get back to SC.

7racer 03-26-04 12:02 AM

the "gunmetal" that you guys are referring to...is that the "mercury silver"??

below is a pic with titanium silver on the left....mercury silver on the right.

also...where did you guys order yours from? Macken? Importhookup?

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...postid=2831355

SleepR1 03-26-04 05:33 AM

Mercury Silver looks MUCH BETTER! Amazing how finish can make all the difference!

I think the gunmetal is Cossie's CE28N's color (almost a charcoal grey?)

Does the Mercury Silver come with that cool "VR" center cap as standard?

Can we get 9.5 x 18, 47-mm offset fronts and 10.5 x 18, 45-mm offset rears in Mercury Silver? This would the ultimate in rubber width for max contact patch (I said the dirty word..."contact patch" LOL :) )

NukeGenius 03-26-04 05:59 AM

I dont think mine is Mercury silver. My color is listed as gunmetal I believe.

NukeGenius 03-26-04 06:00 AM

You may have to get the LE-28s to get that color though. I'm not completely sure.

7racer 03-26-04 09:52 AM

Ok, I got that pic from the S2000 forum where they had a group buy. I read the rest of the the thread.

Apparently, the LE28n comes in the GUNMETAL with polished lip. The mercury silver can NOT be put on the LE model, that is only available in the gunmetal (I think) and polished lip. They said specifically that the mercury silver was NOT an option for the LE series.

However, someone mentioned previously that if we go with a "solid color" than those sizes, the 18x9.5f, 18x10.5r are available.

MANNY! Let's group buy! I want to orders these ASAP:D

NukeGenius 03-26-04 11:01 AM

I do know that you can get the bronze finish also with the le-28 because that was what I was deciding between.

SleepR1 03-26-04 11:56 AM


Originally posted by 7racer
However, someone mentioned previously that if we go with a "solid color" than those sizes, the 18x9.5f, 18x10.5r are available.

MANNY! Let's group buy! I want to orders these ASAP:D

So the Mercury Silver finish can be had in 9.5 x 18, 47-mm offset front and 10.5 x 18, 45-mm rear?

ptrhahn 03-26-04 12:26 PM

Used to be that you could only get the CE28 in Mercury silver in the standard 8.5/9.5 combo becuse it was a "limited edition" color. That may have changed now.

The CE28s come in bronze, titanium silver (the flatter silver pictured above) and solid gunmetal (dark grey, like Cossies)

All "LE" series volks are the ones with the polished lips... LE 28s are gunmetal, or titanium silver w/ polished lips.

SleepR1 03-26-04 12:46 PM

Ahh...well if Mercury Silver becomes available in the wider widths...well...we'll need to start up a group buy on those :)

7racer 03-29-04 04:27 PM

damn!

ptrhahn is correct. I called a couple of dealers. The Mercury Silver is NOT available in the 10.5 size...it would be a special order run that would need 10 orders minimum!

I might have to pull the "jimlab" and get a polish or custom finish after purchasing the wheel...or look for other wheels....Man this sucks....after finally deciding on the wheels I wanted :(

StealthFox 04-20-06 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by 7racer
Manny,

they have the 18" CE28n with 10.5 in the rear 45+ offset.

9.5 47+ offset for front with the star "*" to denote that it will clear the RX-7 big brake calipers....

won't that fit??? I have after market trailing arms and coilovers.

Also, what option do you have to specify to get the spokes to "reverse bow" like that? Lower pad height???

I might have to order these...someone photoshop the above car to IBM please:D

it should be a combination of offset and pad height, i dunno anything about pad height but you need a 42 offset or lower probably to get the reverse bow effect, im still trying to figure that out because i want that real bad and im considering the CE's a lot in 18"x 8.5/9.5

...wonder if +38 will fit without rolling or rubbing...haha yeah right

KeloidJonesJr. 04-20-06 03:13 PM

Cool?

shineautoproject 01-11-07 01:54 PM

Alright. Time to bring this back from the dead. I'm getting new wheels :).

shineautoproject 01-11-07 02:51 PM

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6...feed045vo4.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7...feed017fl6.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2...feed013zg0.jpg

I had purchased these Volk Racing Time Attack Ce28n's and waited 4 months until I received late summer of 2006. If you didn't already know, the Time Attacks are special edition for 2006 only and come with a flat black finish and red outline.

Specs:

18x9.5 +34 offset Rear 275's Definitely rubs rear fenders.
18x8.5 +40 offset Front I forgot. I would have to look again. Definitely rubs front fenders.

These wheels are now sold. I am getting CE28n's again, but probably diamond black this time.


Prior to my purchase, my main concern is if the wheels would bow inward like the Diamond Black CE28n's Rxy Rage has. I even bugged Rx7 Rage to tell me how he got this look :P.

Here are Rx7 Rage's Specs:

17x8 +38
17x9.5 +42

If you think about it. The time attack offsets are lower in the rear, but just a tad bit higher in the front, BUT the fronts are 8.5.

When I got my wheels, my response was, "Awww man....fuck. It's flat." The rears are OK, but not exactly what I wanted. The fronts are a no no.

So now my wheels are sold :).

If you think about it, the offset doesn't measure the inward bow. I think it's more of high pad low pad thing. BUTTTTTT, when you order the wheels, you CAN'T choose! From the pictures I've noticed, the diamond black ones have the most inward bow. The silver and the mercury silver ones don't really bow inward as much.

I am leaning toward 17's this time because I need a smoother ride. 18's might be a lil too big for the look I want. I mean .... 350z's put 18 in wheels and it looks JUST right and the car is much fatter than an RX7.

Here are pics of 18 in Diamond Black CE28n's on a 350z. THIS IS WHAT CE28N's SHOULD LOOK LIKE!!!!! PERIOD!

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/3734/dsc09885xw6.jpg

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/8909/rearar5.jpg
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/8652/dsc09881qr8.jpg
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/5618/img2720eef7.jpg

If you get FEED wide fenders, you can definitely rock these offsets. I am going with FEED wide fenders in the front. Keeping the rear stock.

7_rocket 01-11-07 03:14 PM

hottttttttt

RX7 FAN 01-11-07 03:17 PM

Nice wheels, but they're a bit dark looking on a RED car

shineautoproject 01-11-07 03:43 PM

it's a subtle GT look. Not too flashy.

snub disphenoid 01-11-07 11:58 PM

If I had the money, I would have gone with some black CE28Ns, I think they'd look sick on a silver car w/ the black accent pieces I've got.

shineautoproject 01-12-07 01:13 AM

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7...x349111eq0.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2...x248111xj3.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1...x450111pd5.jpg

VS.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2...ondansxke7.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2...ondansxqi2.jpg

The yellow NSX has 9.5 +35mm in the rear by the way. Look how flat it is.

StealthFox 01-13-07 06:58 PM

thats a nice finish though on the yellow nsx's CEs

preludesh2000 07-19-07 06:58 PM

whats the offset difference between the red nsx and yellow nsx....
why do the red nsx wheels concave so much more....

i've been looking at wheels and think i'm swing towards the ce28 ...i like that black diamond color....
also what offset would you go with for 18x9.5...on a stock fender fd...was going to fender roll unless i have to...

brad

RX7 RAGE 07-19-07 07:04 PM

Wow, talk about thread revival LOL I love my CE28s with the concave look. :) I've had the wheels since 2003 and do not intend to switch. Here's a rear shot showing the concaveness. ;)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b3...7_3756copy.jpg

bcseven 07-20-07 08:29 PM

are the fronts the same as the rears for "concaveness"

RX7 RAGE 07-21-07 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by bcseven (Post 7158988)
are the fronts the same as the rears for "concaveness"

My fronts are not concave at all, just flat. :)

Liem 07-22-07 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by RX7 RAGE (Post 7160256)
My fronts are not concave at all, just flat. :)

Let me borrow them. ;)

purerx7 02-12-09 02:10 PM

i know this is a 2 year bump, but did anyone figure out how to get the concave look on rx7rage's car? Offsets or disk? What something similar in 18" sizing. thanks

TimeMachine 02-12-09 07:46 PM

^^^Probably offset. Very nice wheels!

exploder39 02-13-09 03:38 PM

Car is hot.

D CUPS 02-13-09 04:49 PM

+22 offset and lower to gain maximum concave.

FD_virus85 01-09-11 11:34 AM

nice rims I just bought these badboys Diamond BLack 17" 30+ all around 255 dunlop drezza all around ~~ cant wait

FD_virus85 04-08-11 06:57 AM

Finally 1 secret I found about concavness guys..rim size matters ofcorse but Center cap also makes huge difference.

I Have tested taking bunch of pictures with them or without center cap, Spokes look little longer for some reason and add little more concavness and agressive , Red Fd - Rx7 Rage has very nice size and looks but when he takes off silver cromed volk racing center cap and put nothing on it.... it will make it even so much better just like 350z and the Red NSX.. it will be more agressive and deep, Kens time attacks had dif size but also has center cap
Yellow NSX is perfect example , size ,silver rims and cromed center cap.


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