Swaybars
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Swaybars
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Suspension Techniques And Racing Beat Both Offer Swaybars At Cheap Prices, Are These Bars Any Good, My Car Has Racing Beat Springs With The Stock R2 Struts And It Handles Good, This Is 95% Street Car With Maybe A Little Auto Crossing, Is It Worth The Cost For These Bars, Will It Improve The Handling, Opinions?
Suspension Techniques And Racing Beat Both Offer Swaybars At Cheap Prices, Are These Bars Any Good, My Car Has Racing Beat Springs With The Stock R2 Struts And It Handles Good, This Is 95% Street Car With Maybe A Little Auto Crossing, Is It Worth The Cost For These Bars, Will It Improve The Handling, Opinions?
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Ive heard racing beat front sway bar w/ the eibach springs and stock shocks is the best overall street set-up. Great handling w/ good comfortability. Most coilover set-ups are pricey and will beat you to death on an average public road. I am still searching for an old school racing beat front sway bar! ANYONE?! HEHE..
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The handling of the car needs to be tuned and adjusted to YOUR driving. sounds simple. application is not as simple. If you find that limiting bodyroll would benefit your driving style and the driving you are doing would require a quicker weight transfer and settle (ahem... autocrossing) then perhaps stiffer sway bars would be a viable option for you.
Better is whatever helps you get the most that your driving skills will allow to be used by your vehicle.
Better is whatever helps you get the most that your driving skills will allow to be used by your vehicle.
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RB and Suspension Technique front bars are 32 mm solid, much stiffer than popular adjustable Tri-point race bar.
32mm solid is is brutally stiff ... enough to ruin a nice double wishbone independent front suspension. IMHO, for smooth flat track use only.
For mostly road use with stiffer springs, an addco front (solid version of stock hollow 28.6mm bar) and a stock 93 rear bar 19.5mm (stiffer than later years) would be a good combo to reduce lean a bit.
I think Largus makes drifting bars..
32mm solid is is brutally stiff ... enough to ruin a nice double wishbone independent front suspension. IMHO, for smooth flat track use only.
For mostly road use with stiffer springs, an addco front (solid version of stock hollow 28.6mm bar) and a stock 93 rear bar 19.5mm (stiffer than later years) would be a good combo to reduce lean a bit.
I think Largus makes drifting bars..
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If you haven't auto-x'ed you current setup leave it alone, go out and test your current setup. If you feel you need to change it, go for it.
You never know, you might like your current setup. Also, look into if changing the sway bars will bump you into the next class. I don't think changing/remobing the front sway bar will but the rears if I remember will bump you up.(SCCA)
You never know, you might like your current setup. Also, look into if changing the sway bars will bump you into the next class. I don't think changing/remobing the front sway bar will but the rears if I remember will bump you up.(SCCA)
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bars vs springs
stock front springs are about 280 lb/in, RB mabe 310. Stock front bar, in roll, acts like an 835 lb/in spring, about 3x the stock spring rate.
A 32mm RB or ST front bar is like a 1780 lb/in spring in roll ... mabe a good match with 600 lb race springs.
Overly stiff bars will not deliver good traction pushing a bumpy corner, as when one tire is bumped up, the stiff bar pops up the other wheel too ... no more independent suspension.
Original RB front bar was 34-35mm, stiffer yet, and was known to bust it's arms. I suppose if someone made one out of 3" dia, vacuum remelt, vascojet 1000 super alloy steel, someone would like the way it kept the car nice and flat ( with ~ no suspension ).
A 32mm RB or ST front bar is like a 1780 lb/in spring in roll ... mabe a good match with 600 lb race springs.
Overly stiff bars will not deliver good traction pushing a bumpy corner, as when one tire is bumped up, the stiff bar pops up the other wheel too ... no more independent suspension.
Original RB front bar was 34-35mm, stiffer yet, and was known to bust it's arms. I suppose if someone made one out of 3" dia, vacuum remelt, vascojet 1000 super alloy steel, someone would like the way it kept the car nice and flat ( with ~ no suspension ).
Last edited by KevinK2; 04-05-06 at 02:46 AM.
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REAR BARS
oem hollow rears, not adjustable
17.3 mm 93 only
13.8 mm 94
13.8 mm 95 (15.9mm R2)
RB 19mm hollow, 2 adj
ST 19mm solid, 2 adj
Mazdaspeed 17.5mm solid, 2 adj
cusco 18 ?
tanabe 20 ?
oem hollow rears, not adjustable
17.3 mm 93 only
13.8 mm 94
13.8 mm 95 (15.9mm R2)
RB 19mm hollow, 2 adj
ST 19mm solid, 2 adj
Mazdaspeed 17.5mm solid, 2 adj
cusco 18 ?
tanabe 20 ?
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