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Installed the Stance CoilOvers with softer custom spring rates from AutoRnd to see what the fuzz is about.

Great process/price from AutoRnd.


Looks really nice.....
- I see the "beefiness" that people talk about, which causes the rear side of hub area to rub a few mm to the shock body on mine. - Corrected by a thin washer.

- Looks good but there are a few quality control issues
- One of the springs has some inner side noticeable deep abrasion
- Camber Plates Allen screws are quite long
- Weld spots - no big deal.
This is comparing to the TEIN RA which looks flawless and quality controlled. I guess that's why they cost around $1500+ I'm not saying that TEIN RA is great either from my experience and I know what they're meant for.

- Some thick clicking noises coming from the front when turning

- Some mouse noise in the rear intermittently


First Impression on my car. Rough Rough Rough, bouncy especially rear and drops back down hard really quick. Not sure of the exact description.....

Car is on front/rear RB swaybars and F/R StrutBars
16/55/245 Rears and 16/55/215 Front

I'm comparing the ride quality base on other cars that I drove the same day and same roads after the installation to feel the diff. It's probably not a good way to compare other cars but that's all I had.

- My FD with Apexi Pro Damper Swift Springs 14K/14K Spring Rates.
- WRX with 12k Spring Rates on Tein SS
- Civic Hatch with Tein SS
- Celica with Tein Flex
- Evo MR with stock suspension 9/8k Spring rates? on Bilstein

The ride on these cars were twice better (10x on the FD ) the comfort level.
Basically, I didnt feel every tiny/big bumps on the road compared to a bone jarring stiffness on my FC.

I've got the settngs on 12/10 clicks from stiffest now, started from 6/5.
Dropped with about 1/2" to 3/4" wheel gap all around. I think the lower it gets, the shittier it will ride on the street.
Very minimum preload on the springs. They still spin with a bit of effort. Premeasured the lenghts of all after the preload.

It seems like the softer the damper settings, the ******* the car rides with a little less harshness, but it's still harsh.

Anybody want to take a ride, feel free to let me know.


Questions, suggestions, comments, it's all good....



5th Pic of the Rear CoilOver was just test fitting in my garage.
The installation took place in my cousin's shop.
It's effortless when the car is on the lift

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Looks a little high here, but it's really about 1/2 to 3/3" wheel gap.

LAN

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Forgot to mention. The springs don't have any markings
so if you're lucky, you might just get the right specs for each corner

Gregory Casimir

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so they suck pretty much compared to the top brands?
but how about for the track? I am really looking to get these.
nice FC BTW

JWteknix

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hey man where in jersey are you located? im looking for some coilovers for my fc and havent come to a definate desision and seeing that you have tried out numerous brands, i was wondering your opinion on good streetable coilovers that can handle jerseys shity *** roads. thankx
james

K!NCH

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I enjoy mine. They are pretty rough I will admit. Then again the roads around me suck I run full soft everyday and it isnt unbearable. For track use, they're great (then again I was running stockies before that so anything is better).

How much did you preload the springs?

skizzle84

Stance rocks, and they go super low... so slam it and take advantage of them

89fc3sT2

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Good info and good research, My dude keeps me informed step by step everyday


Trini

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For my experience on my car, I think I'd give it a 2 out of 5. That's just my preference. I don't like driving a DD feeling all the blemishes on the road.
Like I've mentioned before, I don't feel the same way when I drive other cars and my FD with the coilover specs on it.

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Originally Posted by JWteknix

hey man where in jersey are you located? im looking for some coilovers for my fc and havent come to a definate desision and seeing that you have tried out numerous brands, i was wondering your opinion on good streetable coilovers that can handle jerseys shity *** roads. thankx
james

Im located in Marlboro area.
I think if you want to have a nice ride on jersey roads, I'd get lower spring rates. Maybe 7/5. Not sure though. 8/6 is rough on mine and 10/8 is crazy. This is for FC. For other cars, those rates are nothing. Again, My FD has 14k rates.
If I can only test out lower spring rates, but i dont feel like buying springs haha. If want to, I'd get lower rates stance or swap them out with swift.
I've also heard good things about Tein Flex. But I think it would also depend on Spring rates. You'd have to find an FC with different coilovers/specs/brands and try them out. You can try mine so you'd know what to expect.

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Stance rocks, and they go super low... so slam it and take advantage of them

Yes they do go super low. Yes, Im thinking of lowering t about half to an inch more, but I dont know about slamming haha,although it would look cool.
My front bumper with the lip is already about 3-4" off theh ground and it snows here. The front already scrape sometimes as well as the muffler,connecting pipe.

Tatakai

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you cant rate a super stiff coilover 2/5 when your talking about daily driving. stiff for the street, yes. but absolutely perfect for the track. i love mine. 9k/7k springs and running the shocks at 9/15 in the front 7/15 in the back.

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I think it's the car with the 8/6 rates. Good thing I didnt get 9/7 haha.
I rate my FD with Apexi N1 Pro and Swift Springs 14k/14k rates a 5/5 and I drive it regurarly, no issues, no bumps, no harshness and handles great. I shouldnt be comparing my FD, but I'm just rating it.
Again, it has 14k/14k Spring Rates. If the FD can do it, the FC probably can as well. It doesn't have to be so harsh like falling off the sky when going over rough surface.
And the front noise when turning, I don't know what that is. If anyone has an idea, please do so and provide some info. Thanks !


Maybe I'll just set the damper to around 6 - 8 since cranking it down to near full soft doesnt make much diff but only makes the handling shitty in my experience....Feels like on a small boat going over rough waters...

Gregory Casimir

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but do you think the helper springs on the gr+pro's would make a difference in the street comfort area? I really want something nice but doesnt break the bank for me since this is gonna be my first set of coilovers for my car. Plus all the other coilovers i see for the FC are really pricey and i need the support of of easy rebuilds with little down time. So would spending the little extra cash on this be really worth it?

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I honestly don't know. My tein ra has those helper springs front/rear.
I don't know the effects. I think it won't make much difference.
I'd say get lower spring rates. I have 8/6 now. maybe this is fine for you but as I described, not for me.

Find someon in FL with coilovers like stance etc. and test drive it.
My buddy is in FL but his friend has stance.

AlexG13B

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nice write up bud. i remeber ur other setup with tein basic, that was stiff too haha.
gonna keep them or sell them?

LAN

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Bud, I didnt have any Tein Basic, I had the KYB AGX and Intrax Springs. That was actually a sweet ride but the springs were way too soft and old. I think a tanabe or rsr springs would be a good combination with those KYB AGX. And then I have those Tein RA.

The ride quality on the street is more comfortable than the Tein RA. The RA was real tight though. Built for track. Those are serious track coilovers imo.
Id' say the quality on those Teins are quite nice, so i wouldn't diss them.
I think It's all about what works for you and what's proven. For some, Stance might be kick ***, and for others it might just be some economy Coilovers.

I'm going to try and eliminate the wheel gap. I've also cranked it down to 2 levels away from softest. I'll try full soft haha.

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Made some little changes like camber and damper for street and I'm starting to like it.
I still haven't adjusted the ride height. I'm looking to eliminate the 3/4" wheel gap..maybe..
I think some corner balancing would help too and definitely alignment...

I think it would be better with 7/5 rates though for me.
...Drove around the back roads and it handled pretty well with the softer side settings while the car showed the soft side, but I wouldn't be driving like that everyday anyway. I think this coilover will perform good on the track. For my taste, I'm now giving it a 3/5 rating. With 7/5 SpringRates, I'd probably give it a 4/5 rating.

I'll post some pix if I lower the car a little more...I wanna give it a good stance. Right now, it doesn't seem like it's sitting nicely as before, but that's just the matter of adjustments..

Gregory Casimir

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so you would run a 7/5 spring rate. as something for daily/track usage. Sorry for all the question its that im really trying to find out more about these

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For my car I would, but im not sure if they offer those rates or if they can be applied.
They originally come with 9/7. I got 8/6. I'm not sure if they can go 7/5. but I think it would be ok to track a 7/5 and would still be nice for street. 8/6 is fine too, but it definitely affects my daily driving. It seems like it's 'ok' now for me since i've played around with the settings and camber but maybe im just trying to make myself feel better haha, or have gotten used to it, or maybe it really got better and the coilovers are settling. But without a doubt, if 7/5 can be used, I'd use them on mine but then again, I don't think I'll be buying separate springs too soon. If I want to, i'd choose swift springs.

Bunchies

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I'm guessing this happens at parking lot speeds most of the time? Sounds like your springs are binding. This happens on my Ohlins too.

Gregory Casimir

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okay i think i might the extra mile and get the swift springs kit that touge factory also sells with this coilover kit.thanks for the advice ill let you know how it turns out

LAN

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Yeh, that's the time when I hear them. I havent heard them on non parking lot speeds due to other noises like exhaust, road etc...
But were you able to correct that issue?

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okay i think i might the extra mile and get the swift springs kit that touge factory also sells with this coilover kit.thanks for the advice ill let you know how it turns out

Yeh let us know.That sounds like a good deal. Make sure it's the same specs they put on the stance except for the rates of your choice that's allowable.
What spring rates?
If you don't like it. swap with me haha.

Bunchies

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I was never able to get them go away completely, but spraying some wd40 on them seemed to help a bit for a couple hundred miles.

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I ordered a set of Stainless steel brake lines as you can see how nasty mine looks....



Played around with ride height.
This one scrapes here in NJ from time to time. I wonder how's it gonna do when it starts snowing..

My connecting exhaust pipe out to the muffler is hanging low. It's a custom fit from Racing Beat Downpipe - Pre Silencer and out the the catback. That connecting pipe definitely scrapes more than the front. Sometimes the pre silencers scrapes too. This is all depending on road/speed/angle...


I don't know how people love their slammed FC or how they can drive it...



It's lower in person. I think the coilover settled and the surface on this pic is a bit ueven..

K!NCH

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I think mine is as low as yours and I have no problem with it. You just gotta adapt your driving.

Josh18_2k

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most of us with coilovers also have taller tires. taller tires, with the same fender/tire gap also means that the ride height is higher.
this helps a lot with ground clearance, while still appearing low.
what size are you running?