efun007

Hi masters,

I wanna know how would R34 GTR wheels fit and perform on FD.

18x9 +30mm all around.

Any fitment issue?
Is that ideal size?
What is their market value in US?

Would like to see pics if any, and preferably on black FD.

Thank you thank you!
Eric.

SpeedKing

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Won't fit, offset is too low.

efun007

hmm bit sad. should go pretty nice with black fd..

is it the front that is having the problem?
cos the fitment zip file said (correct me if i am wrong) rear offset for 18x9 is (i think) 31 so its great. but the front offset is 44. so i am hanging out by 14mm?

efun007

would fender rolling fix it or still too marginal?

bolo_fd

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feed/burn wide fender

efun007

so i cannot fit even with fenders rolled? must get wider fenders?

rynberg

The spreadsheet shows the MINIMUM offset, not the ideal offset. +30 is too low, period. Get different wheels.

efun007

thx rynberg. so.. from fender rolling, wha sort of extra width doe it produce?

secondly. so i don't have to consider anything below the spreadsheet figures?

rynberg

Go out to your car and imagine flattening the fender lip to vertical. You can see that you will gain only a few mm up front, a bit more at the rear.

The spreadsheet shows the MINIMUM offset, I don't know how it can be said any clearer than that. Staying as close to the stock +50 offset as is possible, is desirable for several reasons.

Dorifto_PG

INstead of saying it won't fit, why not explain what will need to be done to make it fit.... I mean its only off by a couple of mils. What size tire is the Kiwi thinking of running? What kind of camber settings? Do FD owners get scared of camber as well? Show me a car that does not benefit from having a generous amount of camber.... we're not all driving the cars on the street, some people actually care about performance! (obvious pun coming from the drifter, take it easyyy).


What I mean is there is always a way to accomplish something, so what are the possible ways to run BNR34 wheels on an FD3S?

owen is fat

sure you can make them fit... with as much neg. camber as possible and running 215 wide tires stretched over them and rolled fender lips, hard suspension spring rates and dont drive it on the street.

yay.

rynberg

The FD isn't an FC or 240SX with a MacPhereson strut suspension....it does not need much camber to work well. Furthermore, excessive camber reduces straightline stability and traction.

The guy asked how the fitment would perform on an FD. The answer is...not well. Even if you want to stretch tires for "drifting" purposes, that doesn't mean you should run a much lower offset than the vehicle is designed for.

When people ask if the wheels will "fit", I tell them if they will actually "fit". Not that they'll fit if they massacre their fenders and run stupid amounts of camber with stretched tires.

AFAIK you don't own an FD nor have much experience with them, so I don't think you are really qualified to comment on FD wheel fitments. I don't comment in FC wheel fitment threads for the same reason.

XxMerlinxX

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Not only will they not fit, but they're Skyline wheels as well. It's got a big old GT-R symbol smack in the middle of it, why would you want to use those?

Dorifto_PG

Yeah I understand, but I never said ANYTHING about stretching tires or drifting, jesus. Nor did I say that they would fit. Nor did I say that I knew how to make them fit from experience (of course I know WHAT CAN be done to a car to fit wide wheels).


All I said was to offer the Kiwi (and the rest of us who are interested) an explanation of how to fit them. If stock fenders can handle them with a stretched tire, why not just say that, you can always denounce it and call it stupid later... What would need to be done then to run them with 215 front and 235 rear versus 245 front and 255 rear, lets say....



Also, about your camber comment... F1 cars have double wishbone suspensions and have a ton of camber around -5 in front. Why would this not be good for another sports car with similar suspension design? Ok, F1 is extreme, how about GT2 ALMS cars, for instance? F430 has wishbone suspension. True that straightline stability is compromised somewhat, but the benefits while cornering are immense. When are you really pushing the limits of your car? In the corners or in a straight line? Also, since we are isolating camber without looking at the whole suspension design, are you insisting that once you give your car a decent amount of - camber, there is absolutely no way to make your car stable while in a straight line? Seriously?

AHarada

iTrader: (25)

Those of you who said that these won't fit, have you tried to fit similar sized wheels? Or are you just going off of others info?

I just don't see how those sizes wouldn't fit. I am running 17x10 +35 all around on 255 with no fitment issues whatsoever. I don't have excessive camber (between 1-2 degrees negative), and the tires are not significantly stretched. There is easily enough room to stuff 275s on all corners. My rear fenders are untouched, and my fronts are mildly rolled.

So efun007, IME, these wheels will fit fine on an FD, but you might have to roll back your front fender a little depending on what tires sizes you run.

They may not be your ideal sizes for performance, but on the street with decent tires, I've never felt any downsides.

rynberg

I don't advocate or have any experience with running stretched tires, so I have no frame of reference what will fit or not.

You can bring up other cars all you want (but seriously, ALMS and F1? WTF does that have to do with street cars???), but we are talking about FDs here. And if you ask ANY experienced track person, you won't find many if any running a lot of camber like what you are talking about. With 18's, most of us are running around -1 to -1.3 deg camber. You simply don't need more than that with the FD's suspension design. They pyrometer doesn't lie. For hardcore auto-x, yeah the guys are running like 2 deg but in that application, straightline stability is not important.

rynberg

In 5.5 years here, you are the ONLY FD owner running a fitment like that "with no issue whatsoever". People normally have to roll front fenders for anything less than a 9" +45 with 255 tire. Hell, I have caught the fender lip with the STOCK WHEELS AND TIRES before.

I honestly don't understand how you are getting away with running those but I'm not going to make recommendations based on ONE instance of it.

alex_7

They fit no worries dude... I use r34 gtr wheels on the rear and 17X9.5 +15 offset Work XSA's on the front... just make sure your tires are stretched.

Sideview_S13

whether you have to roll fenders or not. make the car fit the wheels. go against the grain and the pussies.

18x9.5+30 front 18x9.5+12 rear. car still needs to be lowered at least 2-3 inches
225/40 front and 235/40 rear. Grow up you never need 255 width grip on the street. Especially if you are obeying the law.

Mahjik

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^^^ Sweet. Looks just like a Matchbox car...

ARD T2

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IS THERE A REASON NOBODY BOTHERED TO MENTION #1 FITMENT ISSUE:

1) CENTERBORE?????

NISSAN 66.1ish

FD 67.1ish

I know it's close, but you'll need to resolve this to mount them up.

Run a 225/40/18 on them with camber, roll your fenders. It should totally work.

I am not here to judge just telling simple facts. To each their own I didn't even read through all this. just Ctrl F "Centerbore" it didn't come up.

Peace, Rishie

p4nc7

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+1, have you seen the amount of work they have to do to keep their car straight and stable?

aznpoopy

w00t. end thread.

used wheels are cheap. but once you gotta enlarge the center bore it's totally not worth it... imo

tuns0ffun65

ill stick with my fc where i can run negative offsets if i wis, i tihnk more people need to take some chances on low offset wheels in their fds, about 85% of the fds on this forum have boo boo fwd offset wheels and they look like ***, get out the fender roller, do some work and get a set of sexy wheels, thats all there is too it, wheels make or break a car. find wheels you like and make them fit, btw if you dont wanna keep those skyline wheels let me know

ARD T2

iTrader: (22)

Ok so i try to be as diplomatic as possible and defend both sides of this

GRIP vs STRETCH Debate, but in all honesty any mature person will be able to respect other's tastes without passing judgement.

A FWD OFFSET/WHEEL would be something like

17x7 +40

IT WOULD NOT BE DEFINED AS A

17x9 +45 or a 18x10 +50.

Just because the offset numbers are high doesn't mean that they can even remotely fit them on most FWD Cars. So please avoid making blanket statements like that and creating more confusion for NEWBIES.

The reason I assist with this forum is to help educate consumers in their decisions and avoid adding anymore relative statements about fitments.

IMHO,

For most here Wider is better and that doesn't mean LIP. lolz......

Anyways, that's all i can really say.

I WOULD NEVER CALL ONE OF OUR LONG DESERVED AND PROVEN FITMENTS

BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That just plain hurts my feelings.

Most guys would respond like this

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RISHIE YOU CAN FIT 18X10'S UNDER STOCK FD FENDERS WITH 285/30/18 AT ALL FOUR CORNERS. HOLY ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT A FD NOW.

Rarely do i see guys going OMG!!!!!!!!!, you can roll/pull the **** out of your fenders, run 3-5 degs of negative camber and run a 10.5" +20 on a FD with a 235 stretched, I'm buying a FD Right now. lolz......

That's all my point is. PLEASE RESPECT ALL FITMENTS. IF YOU CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN THEN MORE POWER TO YOU. Everyone has their own objectives in mind.

Rishie Statement of the day.

peace.....