The Official FC Wheel Fitment Thread
02-01-08, 09:26 AM
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what offset and width on those RE-AW7s?
usually they are not too wide and are very sunken, as far as flush fitment goes.
and while that looks great and hella flush, if he decides to turn the wheel at all, he's looking at ruining his fenders (and thats hella lame).
usually they are not too wide and are very sunken, as far as flush fitment goes.
and while that looks great and hella flush, if he decides to turn the wheel at all, he's looking at ruining his fenders (and thats hella lame).
02-01-08, 10:00 AM
#2831
LMAO!! HElla LAME!! I noticed that too, the fitmit is soo tight you can't turn the wheel, even if there was no suspension travel. But its all about looks and personal prefferance right? Who cares if he cant drive it, its MaD TyTe FlUsH!!!! and well, its on the car so it "fits".
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02-01-08, 11:01 AM
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Hey guys quick question. I found a good deal on a set of 17x9 Mustang rims, not sure of the offset, but I did a "test fit" on the car without tires and they seem to clear ok. Does anyone know what the offset is or has anyone used these on their fc? I will be using the 30mm wide fenders from Shine on the front, stock rear. I would like to go with 245 40 17s all around if possible. What ya think???
Here's a pic of the rims:
Here's a pic of the rims:
02-01-08, 12:08 PM
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so I'm able to run this
like this
caster is pretty damn cool. hahah.
and that guy's wheels aren't 'that' tucked, so I don't think he'll have a problem.
02-01-08, 12:11 PM
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Hey guys quick question. I found a good deal on a set of 17x9 Mustang rims, not sure of the offset, but I did a "test fit" on the car without tires and they seem to clear ok. Does anyone know what the offset is or has anyone used these on their fc? I will be using the 30mm wide fenders from Shine on the front, stock rear. I would like to go with 245 40 17s all around if possible. What ya think???
Here's a pic of the rims:
Here's a pic of the rims:
you should be able to fit 245's under 30mm fenders no problem with a small spacer... but they 'might' rub the suspension a little bit, depending on what you have.... you could need a 5mm spacer or so, but I think you will be alright.
rears should fit, but might need to roll the fenders...
02-01-08, 01:50 PM
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Suspension travel is over rated, you don't need no stinking suspension, its for pussies. Besides, it ruins wheel fitmit. Why get a tire to fit when all you need to do is eliminate that pesky movement of suspension parts and then aything will work!! Sarcasm aside, it does look good though (though impractical, maybe 15mm more offset would make things usable), what size wheel and tires he running?
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02-01-08, 02:07 PM
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Aspec BLAST PIPES!
theyre on zilvia.net as a vendor. pretty cool (if theyre tucked in a lot more!)
unicorn squad, I think you have a totally reversed idea of clearance, its so different from my ideas.
I see in drifting when you are countersteering that you gain clearance in front (minimal at best though) from the suspension movement.
but imagine in autox or hard street driving and GRIPPING around the corners, oh man that tire would EAT FENDER so fast, its not even funny. ouch.
even on a mild street corner if you have any body roll at all from cornering, you will eat fender any time you dont drift the corner.
so come on, that is a self-destroying fitment, it gets worse and worse and you have to space the wheels out more and more each time you eat fender and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and you eat fender and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and you see what I mean?!??!?
theyre on zilvia.net as a vendor. pretty cool (if theyre tucked in a lot more!)
unicorn squad, I think you have a totally reversed idea of clearance, its so different from my ideas.
I see in drifting when you are countersteering that you gain clearance in front (minimal at best though) from the suspension movement.
but imagine in autox or hard street driving and GRIPPING around the corners, oh man that tire would EAT FENDER so fast, its not even funny. ouch.
even on a mild street corner if you have any body roll at all from cornering, you will eat fender any time you dont drift the corner.
so come on, that is a self-destroying fitment, it gets worse and worse and you have to space the wheels out more and more each time you eat fender and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and you eat fender and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and you see what I mean?!??!?
02-01-08, 04:09 PM
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unicorn squad, I think you have a totally reversed idea of clearance, its so different from my ideas.
I see in drifting when you are countersteering that you gain clearance in front (minimal at best though) from the suspension movement.
but imagine in autox or hard street driving and GRIPPING around the corners, oh man that tire would EAT FENDER so fast, its not even funny. ouch.
even on a mild street corner if you have any body roll at all from cornering, you will eat fender any time you dont drift the corner.
so come on, that is a self-destroying fitment, it gets worse and worse and you have to space the wheels out more and more each time you eat fender and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and you eat fender and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and you see what I mean?!??!?
I see in drifting when you are countersteering that you gain clearance in front (minimal at best though) from the suspension movement.
but imagine in autox or hard street driving and GRIPPING around the corners, oh man that tire would EAT FENDER so fast, its not even funny. ouch.
even on a mild street corner if you have any body roll at all from cornering, you will eat fender any time you dont drift the corner.
so come on, that is a self-destroying fitment, it gets worse and worse and you have to space the wheels out more and more each time you eat fender and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and you eat fender and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and have to roll it some more then you lose clearance and have to space the wheels out more and then eat fender again and you see what I mean?!??!?
anyway, even at the car's limits, and bouncing over the rumble strips, and hanging tires off the track, I still have yet to run the tire into the fender hard enough to miss-shape it in any way. it did occasionally rub, but not enough to mess anything up.
on street driving (I do drive my car on the street... or, did when it was still together), I never had any problems. I'm sure the tires did rub the fenders occasionally, but never hard enough to bend the metal, or to mess anything up. and if I ever did hit a bump hard enough to make the tire hit the fender that hard, I'd be more worried about bending the wheel with the 35 series tire on it, than messing up the fender.
also, the proam final drift event in laughlin has a 'jump' at the beginning of the course, you hit it between 2nd and 3rd gear, so around 60mph I'm guessing, at full throttle. even with all four tires lifting about 6 inches off the ground, and then slamming back down, I still did not hit the fenders hard enough to damage them in any way.
02-01-08, 07:02 PM
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Hey guys quick question. I found a good deal on a set of 17x9 Mustang rims, not sure of the offset, but I did a "test fit" on the car without tires and they seem to clear ok. Does anyone know what the offset is or has anyone used these on their fc? I will be using the 30mm wide fenders from Shine on the front, stock rear. I would like to go with 245 40 17s all around if possible. What ya think???
Here's a pic of the rims:
Here's a pic of the rims:
I have those up front (same size different style), with 245/40/17's and tein flex's. they fit great! i had 255's up front before, but thats getting pretty close to the coilovers. if you're on stock style struts you def wont have a problem.
02-01-08, 07:16 PM
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02-01-08, 10:31 PM
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I have no idea how some people manage to get so close to their guards..
this is my rears (18x10 -1, 225/40s) i have about 3-4mm clearance to the guard... still looks like there is a massive gap compared to unicorn squad's car... and mine rub quite a bit...
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fronts (17x9 +8, 215/45) have enough space for me to fit my finger between the guard and the tyre and they rub aswell on full lock drifting ( big sweeper top o third and i can hear them munching guard....)
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(^rears in this photo are only 18x10 +19)
harden up ? or is there something i should be doing to stop them from rubbing?
also castor... i set my car up with castor / camber tops from supernow pushed back in towards the middle of the car ... which i believed you give the most castor and camber...
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but looking at the set up on a ex drift FC from japan, they have pushed the strut tops all the way forward?
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any ideas? i might push mine forward at the next event and see how it feels
this is my rears (18x10 -1, 225/40s) i have about 3-4mm clearance to the guard... still looks like there is a massive gap compared to unicorn squad's car... and mine rub quite a bit...
fronts (17x9 +8, 215/45) have enough space for me to fit my finger between the guard and the tyre and they rub aswell on full lock drifting ( big sweeper top o third and i can hear them munching guard....)
(^rears in this photo are only 18x10 +19)
harden up ? or is there something i should be doing to stop them from rubbing?
also castor... i set my car up with castor / camber tops from supernow pushed back in towards the middle of the car ... which i believed you give the most castor and camber...
but looking at the set up on a ex drift FC from japan, they have pushed the strut tops all the way forward?
any ideas? i might push mine forward at the next event and see how it feels
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02-01-08, 10:43 PM
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Although you're getting off topic...
It's the additional caster that's causing the rubbing on extreme steering lock.
I don't know why people want more caster.
Caster causes slower steering response and hinders countersteering.
Kinda *** backwards for drift don't you think?
I know S13's have huge caster angles, but this doesn't work on an FC...
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It's the additional caster that's causing the rubbing on extreme steering lock.
I don't know why people want more caster.
Caster causes slower steering response and hinders countersteering.
Kinda *** backwards for drift don't you think?
I know S13's have huge caster angles, but this doesn't work on an FC...
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02-01-08, 10:57 PM
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Performance wise:
I have 17x8 +35 with 235/40/17 front
17x9 +35 with 255/40/17 Rear
I don't want the wheels, but they fit pretty well. Just I used a 5mm spacer up front to make the tire flush kind of with the fender. rears could have had 5 mm spacers put on them too....maybe more? Fenders aren't rolled. Running on KTS coilovers so the rears have plenty of camber whether I like it or not. Fronts I usually run with a little camber as well.
ANYWAYS:
Could I fit anything wider on my car? Like I'm looking for more rim and/or more rubber. I don't want any rubbing though and may end up rolling my fenders. I want new wheels anyways...looking for something MUCH lighter than my sportmax hahaha
EDIT: I prefer a staggered setup since I'm pushing about 2x the stock whp
I have 17x8 +35 with 235/40/17 front
17x9 +35 with 255/40/17 Rear
I don't want the wheels, but they fit pretty well. Just I used a 5mm spacer up front to make the tire flush kind of with the fender. rears could have had 5 mm spacers put on them too....maybe more? Fenders aren't rolled. Running on KTS coilovers so the rears have plenty of camber whether I like it or not. Fronts I usually run with a little camber as well.
ANYWAYS:
Could I fit anything wider on my car? Like I'm looking for more rim and/or more rubber. I don't want any rubbing though and may end up rolling my fenders. I want new wheels anyways...looking for something MUCH lighter than my sportmax hahaha
EDIT: I prefer a staggered setup since I'm pushing about 2x the stock whp
02-01-08, 11:44 PM
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I'm quite partial to Enkei RP-F1's myself, very light, very reasonably priced, strong with a good selection of sizes and offsets. I'm lusting after some 17x8.5 30mm offset ones myself (15.5lbs, <$1k). Maybe this summer, maybe not.
You'll need to roll fenders for sure to run wider than what you've got now. With a roll then maybe 245/40/17's front and 275/40/17's rear, but that'll be tight. I'd suggest sticking to what fits better and going with stickier tires to gain traction.
I would hazard a guess that those that propose running "fittments" where the tires are practically touching the fenders like that are maybe, umm, how to put this, less observant. Maybe they only consider rubbing to the point of damage visible from 20 feet away to be rubbing, as evidenced by a recent post here, while others consider rubbing to be just that, any time the tires rub.
You'll need to roll fenders for sure to run wider than what you've got now. With a roll then maybe 245/40/17's front and 275/40/17's rear, but that'll be tight. I'd suggest sticking to what fits better and going with stickier tires to gain traction.
I have no idea how some people manage to get so close to their guards...
... still looks like there is a massive gap compared to unicorn squad's car... and mine rub quite a bit...
...fronts (17x9 +8, 215/45) have enough space for me to fit my finger between the guard and the tyre and they rub aswell on full lock drifting ( big sweeper top o third and i can hear them munching guard....)
... still looks like there is a massive gap compared to unicorn squad's car... and mine rub quite a bit...
...fronts (17x9 +8, 215/45) have enough space for me to fit my finger between the guard and the tyre and they rub aswell on full lock drifting ( big sweeper top o third and i can hear them munching guard....)
02-02-08, 12:23 AM
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1 inch from the ground and 1/2" suspension travel limits "rubbing" in some people’s world. And some how this is "tolerant street set up". Guys buy expensive "known brand" coilovers which are meant for super sticky rubber and a chassis with a full cage for ridgity to take advantage for such huge spring rates, but these "wannabe's" follow trend, buy expensive stuff set up for a different purpose (well, their name brand and cool), slap em' on their old Felixable chassis and slam the car so there’s very little travel and deal with the harsh ride and little traction cause on a smooth track they look like hero's and their wheel choice doesn't rub (due to lack of SUSPENSION MOVEMENT). Then they call everyone else ****** for having spring rates and suspension TRAVEL that actually WORK and tires sizes that FIT. Apparently it takes BALLZ to run HUGE wheels, tiny tires and no suspension and horrible fitting hideous body work to PRETEND they are great drivers or at least emulate those who are good drivers. At least that’s the current trend. I remember when 13X10 reverse offset wire wheels with 205/50/13 tires were cool. That soon died and passed, so shale this new unorthodox completely NON performance trend die too. But, too each their own, ya know?? Some dig it and some don't. Some like their car to perform and some like the way it looks and just deal with the way it performs and come up with LAME excusses that it helps performance but in reality its strictly to follow suit for a current "LOOK". Then theirs the one's in the middle, a medium so to say. All this I say and some KID will say "**** you and your 15 inch wheels with 60 series tires"!, when all reality I run 18X8 235/40 in front and 18X9.5 265/35 rear and have POWER to "drift" at will and "grip" when I choose to actually get through a section fast.
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