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Old 08-14-04, 11:46 AM
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Need Some info on Buddy Clubs/ Hypermax

Well im looking at coilovers at the moment. I have my mind set on silkroads at the moment but i want to learn a little more about other brands before i buy anyhting. Are the buddy clubs inverted monotube? how about the HKS's? how many way adjustable are they? they both seem like good coilovers. if you have any of this info + more id appreciate it. Thanks -alex
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The Hipermax II coilover suspension kits have been engineered to be track ready suspension that is still "streetable". Dampening and rebound can be adjusted simultaneously in 30 different increments to deliver the desired shock compression and rebound stiffness. Ride height is adjusted by simply rotating the 60mm spring retainer perches around the chromed steel shock body. The dual interlocking spring retainer perches prevent spring movement and unwanted ride height changes.

The included anodized aluminum upper pillowball mounts improve traction and steering response while maintaining suspension geometry. Also certain applications offer camber adjustments on the upper pillowball mounts. All HKS Hipermax II coilover suspension kits include all the needed wrenches, adjustment *****, and miscellaneous hardware for a complete installation and tuning

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i have hks drift coilovers myself, very tight and nice ride

i dont know anything about buddyclubs coils, sry

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Originally Posted by igottafc
Are the buddy clubs inverted monotube? how about the HKS's?
Why do you care???


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Originally Posted by RETed
Why do you care???


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Im trying to look for a good beefy setup. The roads here in detroit can get quite rough so im looking for a good durable shock that can withstand some occasional jolts without leaking. im also looking into doing some minor autocross in the near future as well.
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hey rotoboy, ive heard that some of the coating around the threaded part of the shock can rub off from after time from hight adjustment leading to rust. what is the piston sizing on them? what are the spring rates on them? what made you buy them? thanks -alex
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FYI you might find some of the info on my site useful.
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Originally Posted by dis1
FYI you might find some of the info on my site useful.
soory to tell ya man ur info on the hks coilovers are wrong (maybe a typo)

my hks coils are height adjustable

look the spring collars move up and down the sleeve



hey igottafc my bros sellin his hks coils ( i think)

pm me

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Look for a coilover that will independently adjust ride height and preload, unless you do not have a need for a short stroke.

It's best if some of the tech guys here can know what you want to do with this car.

Objectives
Functions
Budgets, kinda indicated here.
Daily Driven?
% track, % street

How long do you want to keep this car? How often are you going to track events, etc...?

Things to keep in mind:

Servicability turn around time
Custom Valving options
Custom Spring Rate options
Relative longevity of damper and cost of rebuilding

Take care. If you ask yourself these questions systematically I'm certain you will find the perfect suspension for your needs. I often find that certain people don't need to spend as much as they thought they would, then others who have had to spend more to acheive the ultimate functionality.
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Mike,

If you were to take the time to read my site you would see the following:

Next is ride height adjustability independent of stroke. Many coilovers claim to be height adjustable but in doing so you raise/lower the spring perch, which in turn changes the stroke of the shock (lowering) or the spring pre-load (raising). Think about an extreme example, you lower your car 8 inches using the spring perch. The stroke would suffer so badly you'd be sitting on the bump stop. This means that the bottom of the shock has to be threaded with an adjustable base.

Take your own advice and look at your HKS shocks. To adjust the height you sacrifice stroke. This may or may not be a problem but it is important to know what you are talking about.

If you want HKS coilovers that are truly height adjustable you need the Hypermax Performer. Take a look at http://www.hks-power.co.jp/products...per/hm_per.html Translated the very first thing it says is:

Adopting the total length adjustment type which makes the wide adjustment range possible to control vehicle high empty ローダウンスタイル which designates the use with the street as prerequisite. There is no change of the stroke quantity which accompanies height change, stylish setup is possible.

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Originally Posted by igottafc
Im trying to look for a good beefy setup. The roads here in detroit can get quite rough so im looking for a good durable shock that can withstand some occasional jolts without leaking. im also looking into doing some minor autocross in the near future as well.
So what does an inverted tube design have to do with being stronger?
Cusco (and others) have some 52mm or 54mm center shaft dampers that are directly derived from rally damper designs.
I would think you'd be looking at thicker center shafts rather than inverted tube designs...


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I have the HKS Hypermax II. They are pretty sweet coilovers. Even though it says 30 way adjustable, when I counted it, it was more like 44 different settings.
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