FC Coilovers
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FC Coilovers
im looking at getting coilovers for my 89 FC im looking for a stiff spring rate with adjustable dampening ive looked into the megan track series and megan said itll be at least 4 weeks im just wondering what other coilovers are good for the track does anyone have experience wth HSD coilovers for the FC?
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I bought the stance GR+ and they are a really good quality piece, been there for over a year with a lot of abuse on track and street, held up very well with no issues at all.
Not that great for autocrossing and they react much better to smooth pavement and high speed.
I wouldnt buy Megans, seen a lot of failures.
Not that great for autocrossing and they react much better to smooth pavement and high speed.
I wouldnt buy Megans, seen a lot of failures.
#3
I am by no means a suspension guru but I have read a fair amount of threads.
The lowest end of the low budget (which seems to be what you are going for) spectrum that is of any quality are BC racing coils which get mixed reviews at rougly $900, followed by Powered By Max (stiff apparently) at around $1000, then the well loved Stance starting at $1150.
Anything less (Megan) is a waste of money.
(Here is where some one preaching about DG5 or similar flames about go big or go home.)
The lowest end of the low budget (which seems to be what you are going for) spectrum that is of any quality are BC racing coils which get mixed reviews at rougly $900, followed by Powered By Max (stiff apparently) at around $1000, then the well loved Stance starting at $1150.
Anything less (Megan) is a waste of money.
(Here is where some one preaching about DG5 or similar flames about go big or go home.)
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The biggest difference between most of the off-the-shelf coilovers is going to be the damper. There's lots of little details involved but I would focus on the damper first when you are making your comparison. You might find that a lot of the manufacturers are using very similar dampers or they are copying each other.
Just as a hint every coilover listed in this thread so far is made in Taiwan. Megan is made by the same company that makes BC. I'm not trying to confuse you more. But the point remains you always get what you pay for.
Just as a hint every coilover listed in this thread so far is made in Taiwan. Megan is made by the same company that makes BC. I'm not trying to confuse you more. But the point remains you always get what you pay for.
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Rebranded 5 times and the price goes up each time. Just go directly to Fortune Auto and buy them for less from the manufacturer.
#11
Ohlins did make a coilover for the FC, a long time ago. They weren't manufactured in europe though, but through an outfit in Japan (forgot the name).
You can call them up and see if they'll build you a custom set, but you might as well go with motons from A.R.E. instead for the price, haha.
You can call them up and see if they'll build you a custom set, but you might as well go with motons from A.R.E. instead for the price, haha.
#12
The Japanese Ohlins are manufactured by Yamaha to Ohlins standards. They are the same quality shocks, not knock-offs. It's licensed by Ohlins and carries the Ohlins sticker.
I can't find them for sale right now though.
I can't find them for sale right now though.
#13
Good addition. However, there have been some made by Soqui (or Soqi) and branded as Ohlins. I had this set back in 07, but they were not a coilover type setup. I had two blown units in the rear so I sold them, not sure if the buyer ever got around to rebuilding them.
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japanes ohlins also have to be rebuilt with japanese ohlins parts, which can be hard to find. they're not the same as euro ohlins.
anyway, that crap is nearly non existant for FC's. i vote for stances if you just want to keep it cheap+simple
anyway, that crap is nearly non existant for FC's. i vote for stances if you just want to keep it cheap+simple
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the tein flex is a 6kg/5kg for $1660 http://www.tein.com/tech_info/m62.html
the tein super street damper is 9kg/7kg at $1330 http://www.tein.com/tech_info/m62.html
Stance GR+ is 9kg/7kg at $1395 http://stance-usa.com/sus/products/c...rplus#GR+-apps
Megan track series are 12kg/10kg at $880 http://www.meganracingperformance.co...g-p-64052.html
what would be the best coilover out of these for an fc i street and track for autocross,time attack and open lapping is the megans too stiff for the fc?
the tein super street damper is 9kg/7kg at $1330 http://www.tein.com/tech_info/m62.html
Stance GR+ is 9kg/7kg at $1395 http://stance-usa.com/sus/products/c...rplus#GR+-apps
Megan track series are 12kg/10kg at $880 http://www.meganracingperformance.co...g-p-64052.html
what would be the best coilover out of these for an fc i street and track for autocross,time attack and open lapping is the megans too stiff for the fc?
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One of the reasons I said " Here is where some one preaching about DG5 or similar flames about go big or go home", I because I assumed they (and ohlins) were out of the budget for someone shopping for megans.
If you search this forum and google, you will find that the quality/uniformity/longevity of Megan questionable.
For a couple hundred dollars more you can get the stance from a forum vendor, Autornd (Rishie). I don't think I have seen one negative post about them on this, the 240, and suby forums yet, they seem to be the clear winner of the more "budget" coilovers.
12k/10k seems a bit stiff for street.
If you search this forum and google, you will find that the quality/uniformity/longevity of Megan questionable.
For a couple hundred dollars more you can get the stance from a forum vendor, Autornd (Rishie). I don't think I have seen one negative post about them on this, the 240, and suby forums yet, they seem to be the clear winner of the more "budget" coilovers.
12k/10k seems a bit stiff for street.
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You must've missed my posts although my problem is with the companies and not the product. Stance XR, DG-5, Kei Office, and Fortune Auto are all the exact same product with minor differences in paint. They come from the same factory and are just rebranded. My problem comes from the fact that these Taiwanese companies do absolutely zero R&D on their products. They make a knock-off of someone else's design, like how Ksport makes D2 knock-offs. Apparently there is very little in the way of enforcement of property rights in Taiwan because even in mainland China you couldn't do that so blatantly without changing anything except for paint.
Another point on the R&D is that they are selling the exact same damper for every application. Anything from a CRX to a Mercedes, it's the same shock just with a different bracket and top hat. They don't adjust the length of the shock body to suit different vehicles, and there is no evidence they adjust gas pressure or even shock valving to suit different applications. The theory makes sense at first. If the car weighs less you use a softer spring and it should be matched right? Not really. If you don't change the valving it's going to be too stiff. Well there's adjustment ***** right? So you can fix it? Those ***** only adjust rebound, not bound damping. So you're definitely getting what you pay for. Most people accept the rough ride as being "sporty" and don't realize that it's wrong for their car.
Tein is a little bit different. They are built in Taiwan but they do testing in Japan. The way this company operates and develops products is completely different from the other manufacturers. Shock dynos have proven that they actually make a very good damper.
But I just don't trust these other companies and they don't provide shock dyno plots, and if they do the plots are misleading. I'm not saying write them off completely, but I am suspicious. Until they start releasing shock dynos there's no real way to compare them. Just reviews and opinions.