motto

Hey Guys, I need some input here from any that may have these tires. I ordered the 451's for my rims and I got 512's instead. Any input on which of these are the better tires? I know the 512 is a seasonal tire and the 451 is more the competitive tire? Since I live in Texas, I figured the 451 would work the best. Let me know if you have any of these or info on which is the better tire?

vosko

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umm they are ok? St115's are a bit better in my experience....

Black91n/a

I have the 451's on my car in the summer and I can say that they are a very good tire. They're almost at the same performance levels as the Toyo T1-S and they're cheaper. The 512's are good as well, but for some different reasons. The 451's will stick better, handle heat better (track driving etc.) and should give better steering response. The 512's should give better adverse weather grip, they'll have longer life and cost a little less. I've driven with my 451's on the track and was quite impressed with them, but I have no first hand experiance with anything else on my car. I've ridden in a WRX at an auto-x with 512's and they seem to be very good, but again, no basis of comparison. The 512 seems to be the Miata guy's favorite all season tire, so it must be good. It all comes down to your personal preference.

potatochobit

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512s are above average all seasons. you have an FC3s? should be ok.