Best Suspension For Drifting
01-24-08, 04:49 PM
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Best Suspension For Drifting
Yeah, I was wondering what would be a good suspension for drifting in my FC? Keep in mind that I'm an average guy trying to get out there and drift, I'm not made of money. Got any suggestions? Any input is appreciated. Please reply and thanks in advance!
01-24-08, 06:25 PM
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Risky Devil- WHOA WHOA WHOA, man! Cheaper than that , or can't I get a suspension that any cheaper.....
Advice please, all input appreciated!
Advice please, all input appreciated!
01-25-08, 07:47 AM
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Drifting requires a rock solid suspension so that you get as little body roll as possible. your going to need the hardest shocks and sway bars you can find. The best shocks i would have for this would be the Bilstein heavy duty shocks that are 91.00 each in the front and 118.00 each in the rear. The only sway bars we have are the Eibach's which are solid mount in the front and adjustable mounts in the rear. I would recommend using the stiffest setting in the rear. the front and rear bar kit are 297.00.
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01-25-08, 08:08 PM
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First off,
Don't buy a FC to drift. Just imho..... The way the car pivots you'll still be figthing it in comparison to a S-chasis. Good for Grip not for drift.
don't buy into the Initial-D hype.
Secondly, if you can't afford Stance coilovers than you're not getting coilovers. Anything else just isn't worth getting.
If you can spend a little over a G then you'll get a great affordable setup with great support from US And STANCE.
If you can't spend over a G: Lowering spring, shock, and sway bars. Done.... You don't have to have DRIFT SPECIFIC Suspension to drift. It's all technique.
Don't buy a FC to drift. Just imho..... The way the car pivots you'll still be figthing it in comparison to a S-chasis. Good for Grip not for drift.
don't buy into the Initial-D hype.
Secondly, if you can't afford Stance coilovers than you're not getting coilovers. Anything else just isn't worth getting.
If you can spend a little over a G then you'll get a great affordable setup with great support from US And STANCE.
If you can't spend over a G: Lowering spring, shock, and sway bars. Done.... You don't have to have DRIFT SPECIFIC Suspension to drift. It's all technique.
01-27-08, 02:39 PM
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First off,
Don't buy a FC to drift. Just imho..... The way the car pivots you'll still be figthing it in comparison to a S-chasis. Good for Grip not for drift.
don't buy into the Initial-D hype.
Secondly, if you can't afford Stance coilovers than you're not getting coilovers. Anything else just isn't worth getting.
If you can spend a little over a G then you'll get a great affordable setup with great support from US And STANCE.
If you can't spend over a G: Lowering spring, shock, and sway bars. Done.... You don't have to have DRIFT SPECIFIC Suspension to drift. It's all technique.
Don't buy a FC to drift. Just imho..... The way the car pivots you'll still be figthing it in comparison to a S-chasis. Good for Grip not for drift.
don't buy into the Initial-D hype.
Secondly, if you can't afford Stance coilovers than you're not getting coilovers. Anything else just isn't worth getting.
If you can spend a little over a G then you'll get a great affordable setup with great support from US And STANCE.
If you can't spend over a G: Lowering spring, shock, and sway bars. Done.... You don't have to have DRIFT SPECIFIC Suspension to drift. It's all technique.
It's superresponsive, easy to wrench on, well thought out, and a kick *** drift car with the right modifications.
But you should have coilovers, and the stance ones look cheap. Without that and a diff on your budget, it won't do...
Needs:
Coilovers
LSD(welded will do very well, but might eat bushings)
Bushings(Energy suspension or something on ebay.. Cheap)
DTSS eliminators from Mazdatrix
Mazdatrix super steering angle kit
Exhaust and filter, maybe some more tuning if you can afford it.
Now that's all you need, and believe me, that is a winning recipe... Much quicker transitions, much higher corner speed, and a fantastically responsive engine with only simple mods needed for more output... Compared with an S-body.
Also, some insane steering angle is possible if you like to experiment... Have a look: http://www.driftworks.com/forum/drif...p-edition.html
01-28-08, 09:13 PM
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You have to have a ton more commitment in an FC than a more stable, longer wheelbase, "softer" car like a Nissan S Chassis. FCs have very very low polar moments, very centralized CG, and a semi trailing arm rear suspension that all contribute to its difficulty. Add on top of that no steering angle, and an engine that, unless taken care of very very well, is less than reliable with abuse.
I love my FC to death. But I didn't actually get one until I had been drifting for almost 5 years. Sure, a lot of old habits had to die hard from the S13 days, but at the same time, making the FC perform the way it should while drifting comes from a lot of experience and a lot of dedication.
For a first-time drift car, in my honest opinion, an S13 is perfect. Grab a $1500 S13, weld the stock open diff, and you don't need much more for learning. Honest. Then instead of upgrading that car, sell it or crash it, and move on to the beast that is an FC.
I love my FC to death. But I didn't actually get one until I had been drifting for almost 5 years. Sure, a lot of old habits had to die hard from the S13 days, but at the same time, making the FC perform the way it should while drifting comes from a lot of experience and a lot of dedication.
For a first-time drift car, in my honest opinion, an S13 is perfect. Grab a $1500 S13, weld the stock open diff, and you don't need much more for learning. Honest. Then instead of upgrading that car, sell it or crash it, and move on to the beast that is an FC.
01-28-08, 09:30 PM
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ARD T2-Yea, I'm gonna have to stick to the FC on this one. Period. I don't care if it's hard to drift or any of that stuff for tons of reasons. Two of them being:
1. Any car w/ rear wheel drive and MT can be made into a drift machine through some technique, mods and tuning, so when I hear people say that you can't drift an FC is really frustrating to me. Especially when I see it done all the time.
2. I LOVE FCs. With a passion. Isn't this what this forum is all about? For the past few months I have greatly studied cars, drifting and of course RX-7s, as well as other possible drift machines. So at this point, I couldn't manage drifting anything else. No matter where my preferences take me, I will ALWAYS drift, or at least drive, an FC!
Martinsorlie-Thanks for the advice and support! I really appreciate it! I'll check out the prices later!
Any other advice? Please post!
1. Any car w/ rear wheel drive and MT can be made into a drift machine through some technique, mods and tuning, so when I hear people say that you can't drift an FC is really frustrating to me. Especially when I see it done all the time.
2. I LOVE FCs. With a passion. Isn't this what this forum is all about? For the past few months I have greatly studied cars, drifting and of course RX-7s, as well as other possible drift machines. So at this point, I couldn't manage drifting anything else. No matter where my preferences take me, I will ALWAYS drift, or at least drive, an FC!
Martinsorlie-Thanks for the advice and support! I really appreciate it! I'll check out the prices later!
Any other advice? Please post!
01-28-08, 10:50 PM
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ARD T2-Yea, I'm gonna have to stick to the FC on this one. Period. I don't care if it's hard to drift or any of that stuff for tons of reasons. Two of them being:
1. Any car w/ rear wheel drive and MT can be made into a drift machine through some technique, mods and tuning, so when I hear people say that you can't drift an FC is really frustrating to me. Especially when I see it done all the time.
2. I LOVE FCs. With a passion. Isn't this what this forum is all about? For the past few months I have greatly studied cars, drifting and of course RX-7s, as well as other possible drift machines. So at this point, I couldn't manage drifting anything else. No matter where my preferences take me, I will ALWAYS drift, or at least drive, an FC!
Martinsorlie-Thanks for the advice and support! I really appreciate it! I'll check out the prices later!
Any other advice? Please post!
1. Any car w/ rear wheel drive and MT can be made into a drift machine through some technique, mods and tuning, so when I hear people say that you can't drift an FC is really frustrating to me. Especially when I see it done all the time.
2. I LOVE FCs. With a passion. Isn't this what this forum is all about? For the past few months I have greatly studied cars, drifting and of course RX-7s, as well as other possible drift machines. So at this point, I couldn't manage drifting anything else. No matter where my preferences take me, I will ALWAYS drift, or at least drive, an FC!
Martinsorlie-Thanks for the advice and support! I really appreciate it! I'll check out the prices later!
Any other advice? Please post!
The S13's and such are easier cars to come to grips with, or at least they seem to be, but then what will you learn really? Knowing the FC basically means you can drift any car real well
01-29-08, 09:55 AM
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martinsolie- Thanks for the support man! Finally a drifter on the site! If there are any other drifters out there watching this thread, let yourselves be known!
Also, any more advice on ideal suspensions or other parts I should get to drift the FC? Again, please understand that i'm the average guy. Thanks!
Also, any more advice on ideal suspensions or other parts I should get to drift the FC? Again, please understand that i'm the average guy. Thanks!
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01-29-08, 10:10 AM
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strike up the paean
dorifto PG is a drifter. you should listen to him as well.
technically, you can learn on any car initially. just realize its easier starting out on some cars rather than others, and the fc isn't the easiest.
but if you are deadset on the FC, then so be it. good luck and have fun
technically, you can learn on any car initially. just realize its easier starting out on some cars rather than others, and the fc isn't the easiest.
but if you are deadset on the FC, then so be it. good luck and have fun
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martinsolie- Thanks for the support man! Finally a drifter on the site! If there are any other drifters out there watching this thread, let yourselves be known!
Also, any more advice on ideal suspensions or other parts I should get to drift the FC? Again, please understand that i'm the average guy. Thanks!
Also, any more advice on ideal suspensions or other parts I should get to drift the FC? Again, please understand that i'm the average guy. Thanks!
I work a lot with getting more lock nowadays, I'll make an "How-to" when I'm done... I want more than I got now... :P
And another tip if you need more help, the guys from Australia @ www.mazdrift.com is a great gang...
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02-10-08, 08:22 PM
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theres quite a few people into it on here.
just go stiff as possible. all i really have is tein superdrifts, some new bushings. and uras tie rods i need to put in.
i never really drifted my fc much when i had it because it blows in stock form, but technically thats where i started i guess
just go stiff as possible. all i really have is tein superdrifts, some new bushings. and uras tie rods i need to put in.
i never really drifted my fc much when i had it because it blows in stock form, but technically thats where i started i guess
02-12-08, 06:25 PM
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FCs are more headed the way of grip but it can drift. make your camber angle 0 and get some nice partshopmax coilovers they are hella stiff and only $1,000
Shock Dyno stats: Front shock at maximum damping setting: Damping test at 229rpm (.6M/sec) Tension = 748.8KG Compression = 94.8KG Front shock at minimum damping setting: Damping test at 229rpm (.6M/sec) Tension = 625.7KG Compression = 92.9KG Rear shock at maximum damping setting: Damping test at 191rpm (.5M/sec) Tension = 642.6KG Compression = 99.5KG Rear shock at minimum damping setting: Damping test at 191rpm (.5M/sec) Tension = 591.8KG Compression = 94.4KG
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but honestly if you wanted to drift I would just get a s13 or s14 it's easier to find parts and maintain and they are rated #1 slideways
Shock Dyno stats: Front shock at maximum damping setting: Damping test at 229rpm (.6M/sec) Tension = 748.8KG Compression = 94.8KG Front shock at minimum damping setting: Damping test at 229rpm (.6M/sec) Tension = 625.7KG Compression = 92.9KG Rear shock at maximum damping setting: Damping test at 191rpm (.5M/sec) Tension = 642.6KG Compression = 99.5KG Rear shock at minimum damping setting: Damping test at 191rpm (.5M/sec) Tension = 591.8KG Compression = 94.4KG
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but honestly if you wanted to drift I would just get a s13 or s14 it's easier to find parts and maintain and they are rated #1 slideways
02-16-08, 04:26 PM
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First off,
Don't buy a FC to drift. Just imho..... The way the car pivots you'll still be figthing it in comparison to a S-chasis. Good for Grip not for drift.
don't buy into the Initial-D hype.
Secondly, if you can't afford Stance coilovers than you're not getting coilovers. Anything else just isn't worth getting.
If you can spend a little over a G then you'll get a great affordable setup with great support from US And STANCE.
If you can't spend over a G: Lowering spring, shock, and sway bars. Done.... You don't have to have DRIFT SPECIFIC Suspension to drift. It's all technique.
Don't buy a FC to drift. Just imho..... The way the car pivots you'll still be figthing it in comparison to a S-chasis. Good for Grip not for drift.
don't buy into the Initial-D hype.
Secondly, if you can't afford Stance coilovers than you're not getting coilovers. Anything else just isn't worth getting.
If you can spend a little over a G then you'll get a great affordable setup with great support from US And STANCE.
If you can't spend over a G: Lowering spring, shock, and sway bars. Done.... You don't have to have DRIFT SPECIFIC Suspension to drift. It's all technique.
02-16-08, 06:55 PM
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anything compared to a z31 would be heaven from what i heard. i guess they really suck but theres at least one really awesome one i have seen that actually drifts. they are still cool cars.
only problem is with all this **** 240s cost way too much might as well just get an fc since its cooler anyway.
only problem is with all this **** 240s cost way too much might as well just get an fc since its cooler anyway.
02-16-08, 10:14 PM
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Hey man, you can drift on stock susension. But a good set of coilovers is enough. TEIN makes an actual drift suspension for an FC (about 1500$). I realize thats pricey (I know all about budgets and what not) but if you save up it's worth it. Also check my thread (https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/coilovers-daily-driving-drifting-713876/) cause I'm sure you gonna be Daily Driving your drift car like me. :]
02-17-08, 01:10 PM
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if u have auto adjust suspension on ur fc take off the adjusters and tighten the screws up like 5 full turns. then put the adjusters back on. make sure u turn them all the same tho. that will stiffin it up dramaticly. thats what i did to my 88 gxl and its pretty damn solid now.