2002 RX-7 Spirit R brakes
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Originally posted by dclin
I'm working with Roger Mandeville as we speak to have a groupbuy for custom 2-piece RS/RZ rear rotors done. It's meant to be a direct replacement for the large brake setup of the RS/RZ, so it will work with the Wilwood (or maybe AP) 4 pot solution in the rear...As soon as I have more, I'll begin setting up GB on this and the other forum, and on the Big List.
I'm working with Roger Mandeville as we speak to have a groupbuy for custom 2-piece RS/RZ rear rotors done. It's meant to be a direct replacement for the large brake setup of the RS/RZ, so it will work with the Wilwood (or maybe AP) 4 pot solution in the rear...As soon as I have more, I'll begin setting up GB on this and the other forum, and on the Big List.
Is it ready yet? Is it ready yet?
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Originally posted by artowar2
I'm in.
Is it ready yet? Is it ready yet?
I'm in.
Is it ready yet? Is it ready yet?
Since regular joes can no longer source RZ/RS rear calipers (from Mazdacomp/speed USA anyways), I will talk to him about including that as an option in the buy.
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Hey, while you're talking to him, if you could plug for RZ/RS front 2-piece rotors too, I'd be much obliged.
There's an absolutely HUGE market for the fronts-- well, okay there's SleepR1, me, and uhhh, uhhh-- a bunch of guys in Japan! Yeah, that's it-- many, many needy guys, from around the world, that really need quality 2-piece front rotors
There's an absolutely HUGE market for the fronts-- well, okay there's SleepR1, me, and uhhh, uhhh-- a bunch of guys in Japan! Yeah, that's it-- many, many needy guys, from around the world, that really need quality 2-piece front rotors
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Originally posted by dclin
Since regular joes can no longer source RZ/RS rear calipers
Since regular joes can no longer source RZ/RS rear calipers
Wonder if someone with Mazdacomp access could get pricing on them just for comparison purposes?
Wonder if someone with Mazdacomp access could buy them, instantly decide that they don't like them, and sell them to me at the same price, plus shipping charges?
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Originally posted by jimlab
Wonder if someone with Mazdacomp access could get pricing on them just for comparison purposes?
Wonder if someone with Mazdacomp access could get pricing on them just for comparison purposes?
Originally posted by jimlab
Wonder if someone with Mazdacomp access could buy them, instantly decide that they don't like them, and sell them to me at the same price, plus shipping charges?
Wonder if someone with Mazdacomp access could buy them, instantly decide that they don't like them, and sell them to me at the same price, plus shipping charges?
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one piece vs. two piece
Originally posted by SleepR1
I like the one piece stock front Type RS rotors...
I like the one piece stock front Type RS rotors...
I totally guessing that you may not want to reduce the mass available to absorb heat by going with two piece rotors on the Spirit R/Type RS/Type RZ brakes because they are already slightly smaller than other aftermatket brakes available for our FD's. I'm no math major and don't know how to calculate mass of a disc or know the hat dimensions but here are th relevant rotor numbers:
RZ: fronts = 12.4 x 1.25 inch rotors
rears = 12.4 x .75 inch rotors
AP: fronts = 13 x 1.1 inch rotors
rears = ?
(this is kit #1 at N-tech - you can go bigger with a 6 piston kit)
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Re: one piece vs. two piece
Originally posted by Coulthard Fan
SleepR1, would you say the one piece rotors are a trade off beween having sufficient mass (in the big iron hats) to absorb heat from the rotor faces vs. the two piece's light aluminum hats which reduce unsprung weight (and thus improve handling)?
SleepR1, would you say the one piece rotors are a trade off beween having sufficient mass (in the big iron hats) to absorb heat from the rotor faces vs. the two piece's light aluminum hats which reduce unsprung weight (and thus improve handling)?
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2 piece are usually (though I am sure there are exceptions) better for these reasons:
- distort less when hot
- reject more heat (because of better cooling vane design)
- lighter
-Max
- distort less when hot
- reject more heat (because of better cooling vane design)
- lighter
-Max
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Originally posted by maxcooper
2 piece are usually (though I am sure there are exceptions) better for these reasons:
- distort less when hot
- reject more heat (because of better cooling vane design)
- lighter
-Max
2 piece are usually (though I am sure there are exceptions) better for these reasons:
- distort less when hot
- reject more heat (because of better cooling vane design)
- lighter
-Max
Yep.
Yep.
The hat does nearly nothing for brake cooling so why not make the hat lightweight?
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I can get a set of used"like new" front and rear RS breaks. This will come with the rotors, calipers, and brakets. Bolt on! I'm guessing the price would be about $1400.00 for the complete kit. Please keep in mind that it will be shipped on a container, so it will require more time. 4-6 weeks.
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Originally posted by dclin
I'm working with Roger Mandeville as we speak to have a groupbuy for custom 2-piece RS/RZ rear rotors done............As soon as I have more, I'll begin setting up GB on this and the other forum, and on the Big List.
I'm working with Roger Mandeville as we speak to have a groupbuy for custom 2-piece RS/RZ rear rotors done............As soon as I have more, I'll begin setting up GB on this and the other forum, and on the Big List.
fabian
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i don't really see the understanding between the 2 peices being less prone to warpage.
Wouldn't a 2 peice rotor have problems with the rotor and the hat expanding at different rates and being at different temperatures?
Wouldn't a 2 peice rotor have problems with the rotor and the hat expanding at different rates and being at different temperatures?
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Originally posted by Cheers!
i don't really see the understanding between the 2 peices being less prone to warpage.
Wouldn't a 2 peice rotor have problems with the rotor and the hat expanding at different rates and being at different temperatures?
i don't really see the understanding between the 2 peices being less prone to warpage.
Wouldn't a 2 peice rotor have problems with the rotor and the hat expanding at different rates and being at different temperatures?
I believe the 2-piece rotors slide a bit at the bolted connection point, avoiding the problems with different expansion rates. There are at least a few different designs for how they bolt together. Some designs are probably better than others in this regard. Often, some of the holes in the rotor are oval to support the different expansion rates.
-Max
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Originally posted by SleepR1
There's Cossie I like the one piece stock front Type RS rotors...
There's Cossie I like the one piece stock front Type RS rotors...
oh, this is another getogether evil rape my wallet things?
My wallet has already been raped by
Last edited by Cossie; 02-23-03 at 12:30 AM.
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Originally posted by reza
Cossie,
Is that on your rear? I did not see that today...
reza
Cossie,
Is that on your rear? I did not see that today...
reza
Its still in my garage..I just test fitted them
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That is the front of the car in the pics.
More wallet raping (but not too bad): http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/how-to/...ear/index.html
Additional raping in the works with the 2-piece rear rotors...
-Max
More wallet raping (but not too bad): http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/how-to/...ear/index.html
Additional raping in the works with the 2-piece rear rotors...
-Max
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That is the front of the car in the pics.
More wallet raping (but not too bad): http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/how-to/...ear/index.html
Additional raping in the works with the 2-piece rear rotors...
-Max
That is the front of the car in the pics.
More wallet raping (but not too bad): http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/how-to/...ear/index.html
Additional raping in the works with the 2-piece rear rotors...
-Max
bad bad influences...wallet rapping, credit card influcing
needs vs wants....
and yes we NEED all these mods....we do track them...
oh lord, the "justification" we put ourselves through...
#49
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Originally posted by dclin
No, hehe. Roger is in the middle of prepping for a couple of races, so it will be a couple weeks before we have anything meaningful to talk about. We're at the point now were he needs to get an actual set of rotors in his hands, which he'll get from Mazdacomp/speed USA.
Since regular joes can no longer source RZ/RS rear calipers (from Mazdacomp/speed USA anyways), I will talk to him about including that as an option in the buy.
No, hehe. Roger is in the middle of prepping for a couple of races, so it will be a couple weeks before we have anything meaningful to talk about. We're at the point now were he needs to get an actual set of rotors in his hands, which he'll get from Mazdacomp/speed USA.
Since regular joes can no longer source RZ/RS rear calipers (from Mazdacomp/speed USA anyways), I will talk to him about including that as an option in the buy.
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Originally posted by jimlab
Daniel, do you have any updates on the Mandeville rear brake kit, or custom rotors? It's been a couple weeks...
Daniel, do you have any updates on the Mandeville rear brake kit, or custom rotors? It's been a couple weeks...
I'm going to get with Roger again tomorrow, and get this thing rolling.