18x10 & 18x9 on my S4
08-31-06 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by davedge
Hahhahaha... I was wondering the same thing... but you have to expect it from the "rotary" crowd... Half these guys could spout off every OEM specification for these cars, but have never done a thing "out of the ordinary"...
Its kinda funny. You could probably sell the stock 'vert BBS wheels for more than your works on these forums...
...amazing.
Its kinda funny. You could probably sell the stock 'vert BBS wheels for more than your works on these forums...
...amazing.
We never do things out of the ordinary.
-Ted
08-31-06 | 08:47 AM
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I think that not all "out of the ordinary" things are created equal. I just don't get the value in doing something stupid just to be different. It lowers the value of being different.
You could tattoo "**** face" on your forehead and REALLY be original, but I'm not sure that really qualifies as applaudable creativity.
You could tattoo "**** face" on your forehead and REALLY be original, but I'm not sure that really qualifies as applaudable creativity.
08-31-06 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
You could tattoo "**** face" on your forehead and REALLY be original, but I'm not sure that really qualifies as applaudable creativity.
08-31-06 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
You could tattoo "**** face" on your forehead and REALLY be original, but I'm not sure that really qualifies as applaudable creativity.
Damn hit it on the head did you? Clearly thats similar to what I have done with my car, clearly.
08-31-06 | 03:14 PM
#82
Originally Posted by NB8CT
on a stock fender, no the front doesnt fit
did I ever say it did?
did I ever say it did?
Originally Posted by NB8CT
18x10 +17 & 18x9 +4 Stock fenders. Rear is perfect, front wont go lower since the fender is sitting on the tire even with max camber. time to roll some fender
With a thread title of "18x10 & 18x9 on my S4" you imply that they do in fact fit...I believe that even if you do "roll some fender" that they still will not "fit"
08-31-06 | 03:36 PM
#83
Originally Posted by davedge
Half these guys could spout off every OEM specification for these cars, but have never done a thing "out of the ordinary"...
Plain and simple, this guy bought wheels with horrible offsets and poor tire sizes so that he could make his car LOOK a certain way without thinking about how that set up would actually PERFORM. Now that he's got them on and is realizing that he can't drive the car without modification to the body I'm sure he's regreting it just a bit, no matter how tight he may think it looks. Why spend all that money on a set of wheels that makes your car undrivable, or makes you afraid to drive it hard? It just doesn't make sense if all you're going for is that "wow" factor. I know for a fact that those Work Meister S1's come in better offsets for the FC, I've got a set of them on my FD and even with the "boring and ordinary" PROPER offsets, they still get tons of compliments... hell, I can even still DRIVE MY CAR!
08-31-06 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stokedxiv
Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason.
Plain and simple, this guy bought wheels with horrible offsets and poor tire sizes so that he could make his car LOOK a certain way without thinking about how that set up would actually PERFORM. Now that he's got them on and is realizing that he can't drive the car without modification to the body I'm sure he's regreting it just a bit, no matter how tight he may think it looks. Why spend all that money on a set of wheels that makes your car undrivable, or makes you afraid to drive it hard? It just doesn't make sense if all you're going for is that "wow" factor. I know for a fact that those Work Meister S1's come in better offsets for the FC, I've got a set of them on my FD and even with the "boring and ordinary" PROPER offsets, they still get tons of compliments... hell, I can even still DRIVE MY CAR!
Plain and simple, this guy bought wheels with horrible offsets and poor tire sizes so that he could make his car LOOK a certain way without thinking about how that set up would actually PERFORM. Now that he's got them on and is realizing that he can't drive the car without modification to the body I'm sure he's regreting it just a bit, no matter how tight he may think it looks. Why spend all that money on a set of wheels that makes your car undrivable, or makes you afraid to drive it hard? It just doesn't make sense if all you're going for is that "wow" factor. I know for a fact that those Work Meister S1's come in better offsets for the FC, I've got a set of them on my FD and even with the "boring and ordinary" PROPER offsets, they still get tons of compliments... hell, I can even still DRIVE MY CAR!
hahahaha. you think he bought these wheels thinking they were going to fit like a normal wheel under the fender? I'm sure he bought them with intentions of having to modify the fenders a bit. and, who ever said the car was undriveable? or that he is now afraid to drive it hard?
IMHO, it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of money on wheels that fit just like any other wheel. it takes time and effort to get wheels to fit like this, so I applaud for his work in finding wheels to fit like this. if you're gonna spend a lot of money for a wheel that looks really really nice, why not get ones that fit really really nice too?
08-31-06 | 04:06 PM
#85
Originally Posted by Bigretardhead
hahahaha. you think he bought these wheels thinking they were going to fit like a normal wheel under the fender? I'm sure he bought them with intentions of having to modify the fenders a bit. and, who ever said the car was undriveable? or that he is now afraid to drive it hard?
IMHO, it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of money on wheels that fit just like any other wheel. it takes time and effort to get wheels to fit like this, so I applaud for his work in finding wheels to fit like this. if you're gonna spend a lot of money for a wheel that looks really really nice, why not get ones that fit really really nice too?
IMHO, it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of money on wheels that fit just like any other wheel. it takes time and effort to get wheels to fit like this, so I applaud for his work in finding wheels to fit like this. if you're gonna spend a lot of money for a wheel that looks really really nice, why not get ones that fit really really nice too?
p.s. that isnt a typo
08-31-06 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BASTARD
Then the forum needs a new section... "The Poser" or... "I would drive it if I could section, but since I can't I will polishit instead"
p.s. that isnt a typo
p.s. that isnt a typo
08-31-06 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BASTARD
Then the forum needs a new section... "The Poser" or... "I would drive it if I could section, but since I can't I will polishit instead"
p.s. that isnt a typo
p.s. that isnt a typo
what? how was that based of my previous comment? lol...
let me quote myself...
who ever said the car was undriveable? or that he is now afraid to drive it hard?
08-31-06 | 05:33 PM
#88
man I still cant believe you people
RX7 Folk will be more appreicative of this eventually....you guys are a bit behind sometimes
Not to steal from your thread
Here are pix of my car with fikse's and miesters
Now I wish I could have more aggresive fitment but I would run the risk of damaging my
aftermarket paintjob. So I had to settle and get "normal" rx7 folk offsets=weak offsets btw
I am sure you guys will love this fitment...wheels are off a s2k
So to the thread starter I appluad you having ***** and getting aggresive
fitting wheels
fikse's
Work Miesters
RX7 Folk will be more appreicative of this eventually....you guys are a bit behind sometimes
Not to steal from your thread
Here are pix of my car with fikse's and miesters
Now I wish I could have more aggresive fitment but I would run the risk of damaging my
aftermarket paintjob. So I had to settle and get "normal" rx7 folk offsets=weak offsets btw
I am sure you guys will love this fitment...wheels are off a s2k
So to the thread starter I appluad you having ***** and getting aggresive
fitting wheels
fikse's
Work Miesters
08-31-06 | 09:05 PM
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But they, uh, DONT fit "nice".
Fitting nice would entail actually fitting with the proper size tire to make use of a wheel that wide and without having to camber the thing to death.
It doesn't take creativity, originality, or "work" to buy something that's the wrong bloody size, or requires a ton of compromises just keep from tearing the fenders off.
Where the hell did you people get your notion of "sense". It most certainly DOES make sense to pay money for wheels that fit like other wheels. Other wheels ******* fit. These don't.
It's the riceboy poser fitment
Fitting nice would entail actually fitting with the proper size tire to make use of a wheel that wide and without having to camber the thing to death.
It doesn't take creativity, originality, or "work" to buy something that's the wrong bloody size, or requires a ton of compromises just keep from tearing the fenders off.
Where the hell did you people get your notion of "sense". It most certainly DOES make sense to pay money for wheels that fit like other wheels. Other wheels ******* fit. These don't.
It's the riceboy poser fitment
Originally Posted by Bigretardhead
IMHO, it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of money on wheels that fit just like any other wheel. it takes time and effort to get wheels to fit like this, so I applaud for his work in finding wheels to fit like this. if you're gonna spend a lot of money for a wheel that looks really really nice, why not get ones that fit really really nice too?
Last edited by ptrhahn; 08-31-06 at 09:08 PM.
08-31-06 | 09:23 PM
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The pictures you post actually exhibit some taste, why would you applaud this riceboy silliness?
I plan to stay behind any stupid assed trend that dictates that I buy tires that are too small for my wheels.
A true "aggessive" fitment would be one where the guy sweated a few milimeters here or there to actually achieve something like getting more rubber under the car. He could've put 235's on stock wheels.
I plan to stay behind any stupid assed trend that dictates that I buy tires that are too small for my wheels.
A true "aggessive" fitment would be one where the guy sweated a few milimeters here or there to actually achieve something like getting more rubber under the car. He could've put 235's on stock wheels.
Originally Posted by ROT8TN
man I still cant believe you people
RX7 Folk will be more appreicative of this eventually....you guys are a bit behind sometimes
RX7 Folk will be more appreicative of this eventually....you guys are a bit behind sometimes
08-31-06 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
The pictures you post actually exhibit some taste, why would you applaud this riceboy silliness?
I plan to stay behind any stupid assed trend that dictates that I buy tires that are too small for my wheels.
A true "aggessive" fitment would be one where the guy sweated a few milimeters here or there to actually achieve something like getting more rubber under the car. He could've put 235's on stock wheels.
I plan to stay behind any stupid assed trend that dictates that I buy tires that are too small for my wheels.
A true "aggessive" fitment would be one where the guy sweated a few milimeters here or there to actually achieve something like getting more rubber under the car. He could've put 235's on stock wheels.
Did you ever think that people use rx7 besides drag racing?
Well I dont feel like spouting off so I will just quote what I wrote on another forum
This is a big deal on here and people are so against it but dont really understand what the advantages are of it. But since you asked nicely I will divulge
:p
There are fitment and performance reasons why tires are stretched.
First I will go over the fitment. Stretching a tire stretches the sidewall in away from the fender. This allows to run a wider or more neg offset wheel withouth the tires rubing on the fender. Depending on the setup lets say for example you have wide wheels but with thires they will rub on the fender. U can either run a widebody kit, pull your fenders or run a stretched tire with just a rolled fender.
Now for the performance aspect, A few performance cars come with a stretched tire from the factory like the BMW M3. Running a stretched tire allows for a very predicatble break away point allowing for the car to be more contrallable around a turn. If you get really radical and stretch the tire more you still keep the predicatbility but your threshold of traction is lowered. Thats a big reason why drifters stretch tires.
Another thing that people are commonly mistaken about is contact patch. Lets say you have a 10 inch wide wheel and you run a 245 series tire. If you run a 255-265 tire the effective contact patch has not increased greatly. Because the 245 is stretched over and has a similar contact patch to the other tires.
Other things that I probably failed to mention. But people get on the bandwagon and bash it because they dont understand why its done
:p There are fitment and performance reasons why tires are stretched.
First I will go over the fitment. Stretching a tire stretches the sidewall in away from the fender. This allows to run a wider or more neg offset wheel withouth the tires rubing on the fender. Depending on the setup lets say for example you have wide wheels but with thires they will rub on the fender. U can either run a widebody kit, pull your fenders or run a stretched tire with just a rolled fender.
Now for the performance aspect, A few performance cars come with a stretched tire from the factory like the BMW M3. Running a stretched tire allows for a very predicatble break away point allowing for the car to be more contrallable around a turn. If you get really radical and stretch the tire more you still keep the predicatbility but your threshold of traction is lowered. Thats a big reason why drifters stretch tires.
Another thing that people are commonly mistaken about is contact patch. Lets say you have a 10 inch wide wheel and you run a 245 series tire. If you run a 255-265 tire the effective contact patch has not increased greatly. Because the 245 is stretched over and has a similar contact patch to the other tires.
Other things that I probably failed to mention. But people get on the bandwagon and bash it because they dont understand why its done
09-01-06 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
It's the riceboy poser fitment
Since I am the poser, can you please show me pics/video of you using your car? Off of the street.
Here I will start:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...80262022386737
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...50975878246757
Alright, show me I am a poser by showing me you using your car for what it was built for.
Last edited by NB8CT; 09-01-06 at 12:12 AM.
09-01-06 | 12:45 AM
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im sorry, let me try this again...
wow dude~~~thats some mad tyte drfto slideways stuff ~~ u got some crazy skilzzzzzz. I am so totaly impressed and completely jealous
He is wondering why he is getting bagged on... well, the fact is that he has a clean car and a nice set of wheels... but they just dont go together... why? well, I am glad you asked; and the answer is pretty simple.
the wheels are tooo big to actually drive the car anywhere without shreading the tires or the fenders which makes having them completely usless
one more thing before i get back to my big time wreslting and monster truck rally, I never said I was nice
-Bastard
wow dude~~~thats some mad tyte drfto slideways stuff ~~ u got some crazy skilzzzzzz. I am so totaly impressed and completely jealous
He is wondering why he is getting bagged on... well, the fact is that he has a clean car and a nice set of wheels... but they just dont go together... why? well, I am glad you asked; and the answer is pretty simple.
the wheels are tooo big to actually drive the car anywhere without shreading the tires or the fenders which makes having them completely usless
one more thing before i get back to my big time wreslting and monster truck rally, I never said I was nice
-Bastard
09-01-06 | 12:48 AM
#97
Originally Posted by NB8CT
Since I am the poser, can you please show me pics/video of you using your car? Off of the street.
Here I will start:
Alright, show me I am a poser by showing me you using your car for what it was built for.
Here I will start:
Alright, show me I am a poser by showing me you using your car for what it was built for.
09-01-06 | 12:52 AM
#98
Do you know this, do you have experience with processing fenders and driving a car like this...not what you just read on a forum?
I understand if you dont like it. But there is a purpose to setting a car up lik ethis. And you can drive a car like this hard without rubbing or shreading tires...I do it daily
I understand if you dont like it. But there is a purpose to setting a car up lik ethis. And you can drive a car like this hard without rubbing or shreading tires...I do it daily
Originally Posted by BASTARD
im sorry, let me try this again...
wow dude~~~thats some mad tyte drfto slideways stuff ~~ u got some crazy skilzzzzzz. I am so totaly impressed and completely jealous
He is wondering why he is getting bagged on... well, the fact is that he has a clean car and a nice set of wheels... but they just dont go together... why? well, I am glad you asked; and the answer is pretty simple.
the wheels are tooo big to actually drive the car anywhere without shreading the tires or the fenders which makes having them completely usless
one more thing before i get back to my big time wreslting and monster truck rally, I never said I was nice
-Bastard
wow dude~~~thats some mad tyte drfto slideways stuff ~~ u got some crazy skilzzzzzz. I am so totaly impressed and completely jealous
He is wondering why he is getting bagged on... well, the fact is that he has a clean car and a nice set of wheels... but they just dont go together... why? well, I am glad you asked; and the answer is pretty simple.
the wheels are tooo big to actually drive the car anywhere without shreading the tires or the fenders which makes having them completely usless
one more thing before i get back to my big time wreslting and monster truck rally, I never said I was nice
-Bastard
09-01-06 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ROT8TN
man I still cant believe you people
RX7 Folk will be more appreicative of this eventually....you guys are a bit behind sometimes
So I had to settle and get "normal" rx7 folk offsets=weak offsets btw
I am sure you guys will love this fitment...wheels are off a s2k
So to the thread starter I appluad you having ***** and getting aggresive
fitting wheels
RX7 Folk will be more appreicative of this eventually....you guys are a bit behind sometimes
So I had to settle and get "normal" rx7 folk offsets=weak offsets btw
I am sure you guys will love this fitment...wheels are off a s2k
So to the thread starter I appluad you having ***** and getting aggresive
fitting wheels
Bit behind the times?
Dude, I've seen **** like this when you were in diapers, before you had RX-7's, and before you got into this whole drift fad thing.
So, you can drop the insults cause you're just making yourself look bad.
-Ted
09-01-06 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ROT8TN
There are fitment and performance reasons why tires are stretched.
Now for the performance aspect, A few performance cars come with a stretched tire from the factory like the BMW M3. Running a stretched tire allows for a very predicatble break away point allowing for the car to be more contrallable around a turn.
If you get really radical and stretch the tire more you still keep the predicatbility but your threshold of traction is lowered. Thats a big reason why drifters stretch tires.
Another thing that people are commonly mistaken about is contact patch. Lets say you have a 10 inch wide wheel and you run a 245 series tire. If you run a 255-265 tire the effective contact patch has not increased greatly. Because the 245 is stretched over and has a similar contact patch to the other tires.
This shows you don't know what you are talking about.
-Ted