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Zero R 05-20-07 06:34 PM

If it is for a FC I'm pretty sure it wont fit :( Just going by your sig, let me know if it is.


-S-

BLK FC3S 05-21-07 11:55 AM

It is for an FC. Damn, any word on a manifold for the FC? I'll donate my car for mock up if you need it. Where are you guys located?

BLK FC3S 06-23-07 09:43 AM

over a month w/ no response...
where are you guys located and any plans on a manifold/turbo kit for the 2gen?

Zero R 06-24-07 04:44 PM

We are located in chicago suburbs, I currently amd pretty busy with fab stuff at this time. So no new projects at least till fall.

-S-

apexFD 06-24-07 04:47 PM

The more 20b's i see the more i want one..

-Ben

Juiceh 06-24-07 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by apexFD (Post 7074691)
The more 20b's i see the more i want one..

The more 20b's I see the more I want a short crank 3-rotor or a 4-rotor... :rlaugh:

Zero R 06-24-07 06:38 PM

How true, especially with how many I have laying around here......

-S-

BLK FC3S 06-25-07 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Zero R (Post 7074675)
We are located in chicago suburbs, I currently amd pretty busy with fab stuff at this time. So no new projects at least till fall.

-S-


OK, please keep me in mind when it comes time to start making a manifold for the FC.

-stig- 08-31-07 10:48 AM

hello!

a 20b is going to find my chassie this winter, and i neeeed a single..

could you send me a price estimate on a kit for my 20b in FD with a gt42 bb turbo?

regards,stig

Zero R 08-31-07 11:28 AM

Is it RHD or LHD?

apexFD 08-31-07 12:40 PM

I have a question.. This should probably be in the single turbo section, however i doubt i will get the answer i am looking for.

What is the performance differance between a long runner style(assuming that a 'runner' is the pipe from the port to the turbo) manifold compared to a short and fairly strait manifold???

I have always being under the impression that a strait peice of pipe will flow the best.. so would a strait as possible manifold also be the case??

And also, a long runner benifits what compared to a short? The only thing i can think of is that the longer runners would provide extra volume so the preturbo pressure is lower (ie less exhaust in transfered to intake), this is assuming that the rate of the exhaust produced and the rate at which the turbo can process the exhasut is constant with a long runner as it is with a short runner.

I can see a system flowing better with a strait pipe out of the port to the turbo (ie the pipe is perpantidular vertically and horizontally).

Thanks for your time,

-Ben

-stig- 08-31-07 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Zero R (Post 7290664)
Is it RHD or LHD?

ohh, sorry!

RHD!

-stig- 09-12-07 04:24 PM

no pm recived...

BLK FC3S 10-19-07 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Zero R (Post 7074675)
We are located in chicago suburbs, I currently amd pretty busy with fab stuff at this time. So no new projects at least till fall.

-S-


Is it Fall yet? :-)

Norwegian_rotary 11-05-07 08:27 PM

how much for the manifold by itself?

and what will the price be for the manifold and the wastegate?


what material is used?


please answer me on pm since i'm not in here too often..

Zero R 11-06-07 09:33 AM

The manifold wont fit your car. :( I believe your looking for something to fit a FB correct?

BLK FC3S 11-21-07 10:50 AM

I think winter time is a good time to stay indoors and start a new project....say.... a 3 rotor single turbo kit for the FC lovers. It is Christmas bonus time ya know and I need to spend money somewhere. ;-)

gab1423 11-22-07 08:35 PM

how much would it be for a 20btt... i have a non-turbo 89 13b engine and my brothers bone stock civic keep up to my wen we race and im happy about that... os i want a big rotary engine ... thx

Zero R 11-25-07 12:37 PM

Motor itself your looking around 5k+ then build and conversion parts. It's not cheap. Cheaper way to beat the civic is to turbo what you have.

TrboRty 12-28-07 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by BLK FC3S (Post 7536639)
I think winter time is a good time to stay indoors and start a new project....say.... a 3 rotor single turbo kit for the FC lovers. It is Christmas bonus time ya know and I need to spend money somewhere. ;-)


Agreed, what is the latest on the FC kit?

A-Spec Tuning 12-31-07 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by TrboRty (Post 7674121)
Agreed, what is the latest on the FC kit?

Sorry guys but at this point in time we are not looking to produce an FC kit. We have a bunch of large projects being started and the time is just not available to develop a 20B FC kit right now. It is something we will keep in mind for a later date though, but, as of right now there hasn't been an incredible demand for it. We do realize there are a few of you that are interested and we will definitely keep you in mind when we free up some time for R&D work...

BLK FC3S 01-14-08 06:25 PM

I think there are more 20bFCs than FD's, granted more FC owners are cheap asses who wouldn't spend $5 to save their mother. There are a few of us out there though, keep us updated.

reboot 01-14-08 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by BLK FC3S (Post 7739177)
I think there are more 20bFCs than FD's, granted more FC owners are cheap asses who wouldn't spend $5 to save their mother. There are a few of us out there though, keep us updated.

x10000000

twomucboost4u 02-02-08 03:13 PM

I have a question, how will this manifold fit with the defined autoworks 20b conversion kit? I know there kit sits higher which is why you have to get the manifold cut and sectioned so how will that affect how high the turbo it going to sit now? Have you put this kit on one of there conversions yet? I think over the next year my project will be a 20b!!! Thanks

Chris

Zero R 02-14-08 11:46 AM

At this moment I'm looking at revising the kits using the Tial V-band assembly. I will say that I can't be sure wether it will fit or not with DA's conversion.

calculon 04-02-08 08:41 AM

Just wanted to check in and see if you've gotten any experience with a GT42R TiAl turbine housing on a 20B yet. What's the story, sir?

Zero R 04-02-08 01:09 PM

Will have stuff very shortly we are putting a car together as we speak.

calculon 06-03-08 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by calculon (Post 8047582)
Just wanted to check in and see if you've gotten any experience with a GT42R TiAl turbine housing on a 20B yet. What's the story, sir?

Still really interested.
ryan

Zero R 06-07-08 02:01 PM

I will have some info soon not to worry.

20B-Power 06-27-08 11:59 PM

Will this kit work with the Pettit subframe? No clearance issues?

BLK FC3S 07-09-08 12:05 PM

Still patiently waiting on a single kit for the FC :)

calculon 07-31-08 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Zero R (Post 8265162)
I will have some info soon not to worry.

Just because I love bothering you. ;)

Updates?

calculon 09-02-08 11:48 AM

Another month down. :) Sorry if I'm just plain pestering, but I'm really interested in the results. Anything to report? Any ETA on said results?

BLK FC3S 10-19-08 03:00 PM

Just wondering if you think something might be available by the end of this year?

A-Spec Tuning 10-22-08 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by BLK FC3S (Post 8650467)
Just wondering if you think something might be available by the end of this year?

At this point in time we do not plan on making an FC 20B kit; we simply have not seen enough demand/inquiries to justify it. We would be more than willing to do a one-off set-up though, but, it would require us to have your vehicle in-house.

We have quite a few projects going on right now and are having a hard enough time keeping up with the incredible demand for our standard 2-rotor FC/FD kits.

Don't worry, you will be the first to be notified if that plan changes :)

BLK FC3S 10-23-08 07:49 PM

If you were closer it would be no problem for me to give you the car for a one off kit. Shipping would add to the cost and then the extra labor I would have to pay that I wouldn't by installing it myself. I dunno. It's tempting. Can you give a quote/estimate?

A-Spec Tuning 10-24-08 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by BLK FC3S (Post 8663813)
If you were closer it would be no problem for me to give you the car for a one off kit. Shipping would add to the cost and then the extra labor I would have to pay that I wouldn't by installing it myself. I dunno. It's tempting. Can you give a quote/estimate?

PM Sent.

Zero R 11-20-08 10:27 AM

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OK so yesterday we got one of the 20B cars on the dyno after break in and such. This car was built conservatively as the costumer is not looking for monster power numbers and more or less just wanted more power without boosting the crap out of the car. Port work is minimal basically cleaned up and smoothed with only slight timing changes. This car is running 9-10psi (was hovering between the two), timing is conservative. A/F's are low 11's, again nothing ragged edge here about what was done. Car runs a RB dual cat back as well for a exhuast, Good power at low stress was the main goal. Anyway here is the dyno. (calculon this is just for you since it runs the TiAL ;) )

afgmoto1978 11-20-08 10:42 AM

That's a nice flat torque curve.

calculon 11-20-08 11:06 AM

Awesome work. Thank you for the post. I notice that it only runs up to 7K. Do you think, based on your experience/prowess if nothing else, that the TiAl housing was gonna start choking up? Like I've said, I'm interested in them, but not confident in their ability to flow the same as the standard T6 housings of similar A/Rs.

Also, could you please shoot me a PM with a price on a non-divided T6 GT42R 1.01 A/R turbine housing? Thanks, and again, great work.

Zero R 11-20-08 12:00 PM

Sorry guys I edited the post I was on the phone in the middle of posting that so now it is a bit more accurate. I will say the Tial will not out flow a T6, I do think it will flow as good as a T4 and in some ways better. As far as how much farther it would flow up top, hard to say, it was starting to drop in torque but HP was still on the way up. We were happy with the 7k rpm redline we limited ourselves to, again we weren't looking for 650whp at higher boost or a high revving engine just nice drive around town with a smile rotary :)

calculon 11-20-08 01:16 PM

Thanks for the reply. I'm sure that it's PLENTY of fun for the intended purpose.

hornbm 02-04-09 11:32 PM

Can anybody tell me how much clearance there is between the highest point on the turbo and the hood?

paximus 04-26-09 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by hornbm (Post 8940314)
Can anybody tell me how much clearance there is between the highest point on the turbo and the hood?

I have 5/8" from the top of the compressor housing to the stock hood.

paximus 04-26-09 04:09 PM

Sean-

I've been trying to get a hold of you for a while, I know you guys are busy, but I would like to order the smaller (machined) 1.01 T6 turbine housing from you.
I figured maybe you or an employee will see this here and get back to me.
Please call, pm, email, or send psychic messages to me so I can get this ordered. :)
Thanks!

Shaun

hornbm 05-24-09 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by paximus (Post 9159269)
I have 5/8" from the top of the compressor housing to the stock hood.

Dang, that means this kit will not work with the defined autoworks 20B mounting kit.

Slevin_FD 10-30-09 08:00 PM

did the hood clearance issues between the hood and the defines autoworks kit ever get resolved?

Longshoe 11-12-09 07:28 AM

I know this kit does not fit a 20B FC but why not? Hood clearance? I thought the FC engine bay was larger than the FD's.

fredox19 05-12-10 07:50 PM

Any updates with an FC mani?

Zero R 05-15-10 10:43 AM

No sir haven't had someone want to drop off a FC to get one done and I can't make one without it.


~S~


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