OKC--Open Track Day @ Sheriff's Track...6 dates!
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OKC--Open Track Day @ Sheriff's Track...6 dates!
This is a driving experience you simply cannot pass up if you live anywhere within reasonable driving distance from OKC. This is hands-down the best bang-for-the-buck track experience you can ever hope for. $30/car for non-OKZCC members, $25/car for OKZCC members for a day at the track!
The OKC chapter of the OKZCC has secured SIX dates for our use of this fantastic facility, courtesy of the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Department.
April 5th, Sunday
May 3rd, Sunday
June 28th, Sunday
July 5th, Sunday
August 2nd, Sunday
and a tentative date on September 6th, also a Sunday
You do not need to be a member and any make/model car is welcome to participate. This is a truly unique chance to drive your car the way it was meant to be driven in a very low risk, non-competitive, driver-friendly environment that offers a fun experience for the first-timer as well as the more seasoned track rat. The venue is unique in that it allows you to lap at speeds well above autoX speeds but not nearly as fast as a full-blown roadcourse such as Hallett. The balance lends itself to be an invaluable experience for newcomers to learn their cars and still allows the track rats to further explore their car's setup and hone their skills.
Here's a bird's-eye-view of the track; a 1-mile lap including two hairpins, a set of "esses", a high speed dogleg, one long straight, and a skidpad center section which will be configured into a tricky chicane with cones to moderate overall speeds. Expect to spend your day in 2nd/3rd gear! All passing is done on the one large straight and is strictly forbidden in corners.
Each event has a 30 car maximum. Participants will be broken up into groups of 5-6 cars maximum and will have 10-minute sessions of continuous lapping. You can expect to get 5-6 sessions or at least an hour of total "seat time". This is entirely dependent on how well participants follow the rules and exercise proper self-discipline. Proper track etiquette is the key to a fun day for everyone! Participants are required to wear a helmet, seatbelt, and for their car to be in proper working order....no parts falling off!
We recommend participants flush their brake fluid (DOT4 fluid is highly recommended), make sure they have adequate brake pads, and check condition of coolant hoses as well as flush their coolant system PRIOR to showing up. While none of this is required, you don't want to be that guy who needs a ride to AutoZone because your brake pads disintegrated (Nissan OEM pads are notorious for this), or because your upper radiator hose split. It will be hot out there and you will be working on the tarmac while everyone else who did their homework is enjoying themselves.
Cooler's with food/drinks are encouraged, however alcohol is strictly prohibited from entering venue. Do not assume the OKZCC will have bottled water there. Spectators are allowed and encouraged, and anyone wishing to shoot photos/video from areas of the track other than the designated spectator area need to get permission from the Event Marshall prior to wandering out into the track area.
HOW DO I SIGN UP??
These events are filled via pre-registration and all unfilled slots will be available on a "first-come-first-serve" basis the morning of the event at the track. Do not count on just showing up this year and getting a slot without sending in a form prior. Get those forms in early please, this allows us to group everyone appropriately prior to arrival and get a head start on things, as opposed to doing it at the track when everyone shows....translating to more track time, earlier in the cool-temp morning for you!
WHERE IS THE SHERIFF'S TRACK?
The track is located just north of Midwest City on NE 36th Street & N Air Depot. You can get there either by taking Sooner Rd or I-35 to NE 36th Street and then heading east on NE 36th Street until you see the entrance on your left immediately past the landfill on the right.
WHAT TIME DO I NEED TO SHOW UP?
You need to be there PRIOR to 8:30 AM. This allows us to brief all drivers in a safety meeting, squeeze in a familiarization/parade lap for those who have not seen the course before, and get the first group out on the track by 9:00 AM. If you show late, you can expect to sit out your first session, even if you are not in the first group. Please be prompt if at all possible. The gates will be open plenty early prior to 8:30, give yourself plenty of time to get unloaded and ready to go.
WHAT HAPPENS IF I CRASH OR DAMAGE MY CAR?
While it has not happened, it doesn't mean it isn't possible. You need to check with your insurance company. You need to make clear to them that this is NOT a competitive event. You are NOT going "racing". This is a driver's education event in a non-timed, non-competitive setting. I personally have State Farm coverage and they are fine with it, you need to check with your company if you are that concerned about it. Ultimately what happens rests entirely on your ability to drive within your comfort zone, and your ability to not let your ego get the better of you and force you to push you and your car beyond your limits. We will take all steps possible to mitigate the possiblity of something catastrophic happening. This is why we have the cones/chicanes in place and request you adhere to our rules. We have not had anybody leave with twisted metal, and we will continue to do all we can to ensure our events stay that way.
The OKC chapter of the OKZCC has secured SIX dates for our use of this fantastic facility, courtesy of the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Department.
April 5th, Sunday
May 3rd, Sunday
June 28th, Sunday
July 5th, Sunday
August 2nd, Sunday
and a tentative date on September 6th, also a Sunday
You do not need to be a member and any make/model car is welcome to participate. This is a truly unique chance to drive your car the way it was meant to be driven in a very low risk, non-competitive, driver-friendly environment that offers a fun experience for the first-timer as well as the more seasoned track rat. The venue is unique in that it allows you to lap at speeds well above autoX speeds but not nearly as fast as a full-blown roadcourse such as Hallett. The balance lends itself to be an invaluable experience for newcomers to learn their cars and still allows the track rats to further explore their car's setup and hone their skills.
Here's a bird's-eye-view of the track; a 1-mile lap including two hairpins, a set of "esses", a high speed dogleg, one long straight, and a skidpad center section which will be configured into a tricky chicane with cones to moderate overall speeds. Expect to spend your day in 2nd/3rd gear! All passing is done on the one large straight and is strictly forbidden in corners.
Each event has a 30 car maximum. Participants will be broken up into groups of 5-6 cars maximum and will have 10-minute sessions of continuous lapping. You can expect to get 5-6 sessions or at least an hour of total "seat time". This is entirely dependent on how well participants follow the rules and exercise proper self-discipline. Proper track etiquette is the key to a fun day for everyone! Participants are required to wear a helmet, seatbelt, and for their car to be in proper working order....no parts falling off!
We recommend participants flush their brake fluid (DOT4 fluid is highly recommended), make sure they have adequate brake pads, and check condition of coolant hoses as well as flush their coolant system PRIOR to showing up. While none of this is required, you don't want to be that guy who needs a ride to AutoZone because your brake pads disintegrated (Nissan OEM pads are notorious for this), or because your upper radiator hose split. It will be hot out there and you will be working on the tarmac while everyone else who did their homework is enjoying themselves.
Cooler's with food/drinks are encouraged, however alcohol is strictly prohibited from entering venue. Do not assume the OKZCC will have bottled water there. Spectators are allowed and encouraged, and anyone wishing to shoot photos/video from areas of the track other than the designated spectator area need to get permission from the Event Marshall prior to wandering out into the track area.
HOW DO I SIGN UP??
These events are filled via pre-registration and all unfilled slots will be available on a "first-come-first-serve" basis the morning of the event at the track. Do not count on just showing up this year and getting a slot without sending in a form prior. Get those forms in early please, this allows us to group everyone appropriately prior to arrival and get a head start on things, as opposed to doing it at the track when everyone shows....translating to more track time, earlier in the cool-temp morning for you!
DOWNLOAD THE ENTRY FORM HERE
WHERE IS THE SHERIFF'S TRACK?
The track is located just north of Midwest City on NE 36th Street & N Air Depot. You can get there either by taking Sooner Rd or I-35 to NE 36th Street and then heading east on NE 36th Street until you see the entrance on your left immediately past the landfill on the right.
WHAT TIME DO I NEED TO SHOW UP?
You need to be there PRIOR to 8:30 AM. This allows us to brief all drivers in a safety meeting, squeeze in a familiarization/parade lap for those who have not seen the course before, and get the first group out on the track by 9:00 AM. If you show late, you can expect to sit out your first session, even if you are not in the first group. Please be prompt if at all possible. The gates will be open plenty early prior to 8:30, give yourself plenty of time to get unloaded and ready to go.
WHAT HAPPENS IF I CRASH OR DAMAGE MY CAR?
While it has not happened, it doesn't mean it isn't possible. You need to check with your insurance company. You need to make clear to them that this is NOT a competitive event. You are NOT going "racing". This is a driver's education event in a non-timed, non-competitive setting. I personally have State Farm coverage and they are fine with it, you need to check with your company if you are that concerned about it. Ultimately what happens rests entirely on your ability to drive within your comfort zone, and your ability to not let your ego get the better of you and force you to push you and your car beyond your limits. We will take all steps possible to mitigate the possiblity of something catastrophic happening. This is why we have the cones/chicanes in place and request you adhere to our rules. We have not had anybody leave with twisted metal, and we will continue to do all we can to ensure our events stay that way.
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Come on out. I am really surprised by the lack of RX-7 presence at motorsport events around here. I have always felt the RX-7 was the most "track-oriented" design of all the 90's era sportscars. I'd really like to see more out.
#7
/sarcasm off
If you seriously want to bitch about $30 for a day of lapping a small roadcourse at speed, I encourage you to take your $30 elsewhere, say Hallett, MotorSports Ranch, or Texas World Speedway, and see how much seat time it gets you....if it even gets you in the gate. Give me a break. Next time, try sending a PM with your concern instead of embarassing yourself with baseless insinuations on a public forum.
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By the way, for anyone interested in making future dates.....
Last month was full and a few cars had to be turned away who did not sign up in advance but just showed up the morning of the event. Please, if you are going to take the time prep your car and drive in from someplace relatively far, send your entry form in with a check in advance. This goes for local folks too. Unless your form is received with the entry fee, your spot is not reserved. It sucks to have to turn away folks who took the time to prep and drive out there, but only so many participants can be accomodated in the best interest of safety and maximizing the seat time to down time ratio.
Forms can be obtained from our site www.okzcc.com in the forums under "Upcoming Events"
Last month was full and a few cars had to be turned away who did not sign up in advance but just showed up the morning of the event. Please, if you are going to take the time prep your car and drive in from someplace relatively far, send your entry form in with a check in advance. This goes for local folks too. Unless your form is received with the entry fee, your spot is not reserved. It sucks to have to turn away folks who took the time to prep and drive out there, but only so many participants can be accomodated in the best interest of safety and maximizing the seat time to down time ratio.
Forms can be obtained from our site www.okzcc.com in the forums under "Upcoming Events"
#9
I am not complaining. It was a simple question that obviously bothered you. I have held a few events up there. You need to know who you are talking to before you jump out like a e-thug there buddy. Thanks for showing your maturity.
#10
No offense, but 3 question marks following a clearly loaded question, and the statement "ask me how I know" as if I or the OKZCC have something we didn't want people to know, is clearly more than a "simple question"
No need for "e-thug" as you put it, you simply were replied to in the same fashion that you posed your question. If you have further concerns over the price, insurance coverage, event format, etc etc.....I welcome you to a private discussion as this thread is not here for the purpose of you to interrogate me over your misplaced concerns, although I will gladly discuss any of them with you.
While I am no longer the president of the Z club in OKC, I did originally set up and finance these events for the club and have since turned them over to our current president, so my intimate knowledge of all items involved should be able to answer your questions, should you still have any.
Is there still any confusion over the entry fee of $30?
By the way...who am I talking to, and who do you speak on behalf of? Knowing this may prevent further confusion, and make it easier for other representatives to communicate directly in the future.
No need for "e-thug" as you put it, you simply were replied to in the same fashion that you posed your question. If you have further concerns over the price, insurance coverage, event format, etc etc.....I welcome you to a private discussion as this thread is not here for the purpose of you to interrogate me over your misplaced concerns, although I will gladly discuss any of them with you.
While I am no longer the president of the Z club in OKC, I did originally set up and finance these events for the club and have since turned them over to our current president, so my intimate knowledge of all items involved should be able to answer your questions, should you still have any.
Is there still any confusion over the entry fee of $30?
By the way...who am I talking to, and who do you speak on behalf of? Knowing this may prevent further confusion, and make it easier for other representatives to communicate directly in the future.
#11
No need to explain insurance to me I was in the profession for a while. I asked because there was no mention of insurance for the event in your description. All you mentioned was that you had State Farm and they had no problem with you driving your car.
I understand your car club has expenses and cones cost. Many times the cones get killed out there. I also know that the Corvette Club has provided the majority of the cones out there. I can also do simple math as how much 30 cars at $30 a piece adds up to. The last 2 events I held out there were free.
When you advertise on a public forum you are going to get questions good and bad. You have to deal with them. I have nothing against you. I know next time to make sure my questions are asked as nice as possible when talking to the Z guys.
As for who I am: I am a concerned user of the track and I am speaking on my own behalf. Although we should all work together to make sure that everyone using the track doesn't ruin it for others.
Heck I could easily get you 10 more cars if needed from my past sessions. I hope your event goes well.
I understand your car club has expenses and cones cost. Many times the cones get killed out there. I also know that the Corvette Club has provided the majority of the cones out there. I can also do simple math as how much 30 cars at $30 a piece adds up to. The last 2 events I held out there were free.
When you advertise on a public forum you are going to get questions good and bad. You have to deal with them. I have nothing against you. I know next time to make sure my questions are asked as nice as possible when talking to the Z guys.
As for who I am: I am a concerned user of the track and I am speaking on my own behalf. Although we should all work together to make sure that everyone using the track doesn't ruin it for others.
Heck I could easily get you 10 more cars if needed from my past sessions. I hope your event goes well.
#12
Fair enough, if you paid closer attention to the original post, the topic is "What happens if I crash or damage my car" Not what happens to the OKZCC if a car is crashed or damaged. It deals specifically with people understanding that they need proper coverage if they are concerned about incurring damages to their car while out there.
While I appreciate your concern whether we have coverage for the event or not, had you ever attended/spectated or even asked anyone who had, you'd already know the answer because you'd have either read & signed the waiver yourself, or anyone could have told you. We do not preoccupy ourselves with the particulars of the liability coverage of the Corvette Club, PCA, Sunbelt BMW, or Mustang Club, and so it begs the question why are you suddenly so concerned about ours without doing a tiny bit of research first. I have to wonder how you couldn't know this if you organize events there, considering the first thing you see at any track is a liability waiver. They don't grow on trees you know, you receive them from the Insuring entity as part of the coverage. To assume that we pocket every single dollar collected in entry fees in some presumably greedy fashion, despite providing a binding liability waiver is nothing short of accusing the OKZCC club of being devious in its purposes and you know it. If this wasn't your assumption then why else would you ask?
We are well aware of the costs of cones, and I assume (maybe wrongly so) that you are aware that those aren't the only expenses involved in setting up successful events, some clubs incur more than others based on how they run their events. OKZCC is aware that the Corvette Club footed the bill for cones last year, and that the Sunbelt BMW club is taking care of this year. Not that it is any of your business as an "individual", but since you are "concerned", just sunday I brought up to the club at our joint Tulsa/OKC meeting that we should look to coordinate with the others to pick up the tab for next year.
We gladly answer any questions brought up, and frankly I am curious as to what constitutes a "bad" question. Your post was plainly accusatory in tone and backpeddling now doesn't change that fact. There are plenty more appropriate ways to ask a "simple question" and you chose to ask yours the way you did. I have to wonder what kind of answer you were expecting to receive....honestly. Regardless, it is water under the bridge, all is forgiven, no hard feelings. I will assume since you have dropped the issue that it is no longer a source of confusion for you.
I am still confused about one thing, you claim not to represent anyone yet you offer to send 10 participants if we "needed" them? This defensive anonymity is puzzling to say the least. Regardless, I am sure the Z club appreciates the concern, and we also would undoubtedly help out another club in any way we could that makes sense for us. However if you have participants who want slots, as stated earlier, it is important they get entry forms in asap, as we fully expect to have to turn some "walk-ins" away due to a full field of cars and hate to turn folks away who spent the time prepping and making the drive out there.
I'm glad we had this discussion although it should have been done offline, and commend you for offering similar events for car guys and gals free of charge.
While I appreciate your concern whether we have coverage for the event or not, had you ever attended/spectated or even asked anyone who had, you'd already know the answer because you'd have either read & signed the waiver yourself, or anyone could have told you. We do not preoccupy ourselves with the particulars of the liability coverage of the Corvette Club, PCA, Sunbelt BMW, or Mustang Club, and so it begs the question why are you suddenly so concerned about ours without doing a tiny bit of research first. I have to wonder how you couldn't know this if you organize events there, considering the first thing you see at any track is a liability waiver. They don't grow on trees you know, you receive them from the Insuring entity as part of the coverage. To assume that we pocket every single dollar collected in entry fees in some presumably greedy fashion, despite providing a binding liability waiver is nothing short of accusing the OKZCC club of being devious in its purposes and you know it. If this wasn't your assumption then why else would you ask?
We are well aware of the costs of cones, and I assume (maybe wrongly so) that you are aware that those aren't the only expenses involved in setting up successful events, some clubs incur more than others based on how they run their events. OKZCC is aware that the Corvette Club footed the bill for cones last year, and that the Sunbelt BMW club is taking care of this year. Not that it is any of your business as an "individual", but since you are "concerned", just sunday I brought up to the club at our joint Tulsa/OKC meeting that we should look to coordinate with the others to pick up the tab for next year.
We gladly answer any questions brought up, and frankly I am curious as to what constitutes a "bad" question. Your post was plainly accusatory in tone and backpeddling now doesn't change that fact. There are plenty more appropriate ways to ask a "simple question" and you chose to ask yours the way you did. I have to wonder what kind of answer you were expecting to receive....honestly. Regardless, it is water under the bridge, all is forgiven, no hard feelings. I will assume since you have dropped the issue that it is no longer a source of confusion for you.
I am still confused about one thing, you claim not to represent anyone yet you offer to send 10 participants if we "needed" them? This defensive anonymity is puzzling to say the least. Regardless, I am sure the Z club appreciates the concern, and we also would undoubtedly help out another club in any way we could that makes sense for us. However if you have participants who want slots, as stated earlier, it is important they get entry forms in asap, as we fully expect to have to turn some "walk-ins" away due to a full field of cars and hate to turn folks away who spent the time prepping and making the drive out there.
I'm glad we had this discussion although it should have been done offline, and commend you for offering similar events for car guys and gals free of charge.
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