Mustangs are good for what they are - a budget sports car. You have to compare them in their price range for them to be a good car, and if you do THAT they're not bad.

For $17,000, would you rather have a v6 Mustang, or a Dodge Caliber RT, or a Toyota Camry? Just for $17,000 don't expect it to outperform a $30,000 Nissan 350z. But since it's a Mustang, aftermarket parts are cheap - so for another $4,000-6,000 you can probably get close. And the first thing to do is redo the entire suspension.

 

hmm I will have to go through the books for that, they didnt put that online. there is a recall for the 92 capri for the replacement of the air bag module. I will have to see what I can find at work

 

Now just who buys the Pony emblem just to have a V6 behind it? Now thats like buying that SARD supra with an I4 Turbo.

 

Or an RX-7 with only a 12a...

=X

 

or an N/A... jk!

 

how bout a 10a?

 

10a's are respectable as well as 10b and so forth

 

I knew about the recall, but I figured it was probably out of its grace period. It does have an airbag computer problem though - so if I bring it in, do they have to fix it?

Just whenever you get the chance, that'd be awesome - I'll try to return the favor sometime, somehow.

 

The new ones aren't bad - 200ish hp is very respectable out of a normally aspirated domestic v6. Or you can get into a 300ish hp v8 for $23,000. Again, Mustang's aren't great, but at that price point they're not bad. autos.msn.com lists a couple of competitors for them, and the Mustang is cheaper than all of them. The only one that comes close is the Eclipse. Yeah, sign me up for a watered down, heavier than hell FWD or AWD that's even heavier.

Besides, the v8's get rid of most of the pony emblems and put the GT letters on it, so you're not exactly buying a lookalike car.

It's not like that was my choice anyway, for the same $17,000, you could PROBABLY buy a 2 year old Neon with the sport package and 12,000 miles left on the warranty as a daily driver, a 1 in 500ish 1992 factory Stratosphere Blue Mercury Capri convertible for a show car, and a 1987 FC for a race car/fun car, and still have $6,500 leftover for paint, parts, and polish.

 

Don't get me wrong... there's nothing wrong with a v6 in general.... but if I buy the name Mustang... I'm making damn sure I'm buying a V8 which the starting price is around $26.4K.

 

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I see no reason for a Mustang unless it's a V8 and full of *****...................but hey, that's me.

....93(coupe, not hatchback) 5.0, now that's speed

 

Hey, Chip and Dale rock mother fvcking clown shoes!!

Probally were too young, but did you work there when it was Village Ford? Does anyone ever speak of the famous Village Ford Lady? I totally understand her hatred after experiencing Josh's issue.

Yeah... ...like those Eleanors you can pick up over at Farmers Branch. Yeah, they were born a 6 cylinder, but after a full frame off restoration, it recieves a shelby badge and VIN... ...but I still see them as $100,000+ 40 year old 6 cylinders.

You do know that both Saleen and Roush made/make custom v6s. And yes, each had a special number. But most are just styling packages. You have to go with a higher stage in or to actually get performance upgrades. I'll tell you one thing, I see so many saleens and roushes that none of them are any special anymore. So much for being original. Its like all those goths running around "oh Im so different and unique, yet somehow still fit in with everyone else." But you wanna know what I CAN call "my mustang?" Getting your dime a dozen basic mustang, and customizing it with parts that were made and sold locally, and NEVER seeing another car like yours

You did say "pre-80's" right? ok...

1979 5.0 mustang: 140hp
77-78 5.0 mustang: 134 hp
75-76 5.0 mustang: 140hp
1973 302 mustang: 141 hp
1972 302 mustang: 140 hp

Now then, you may argue that "those" arent "muscle cars" and yes, there are really super fast mustangs. But most of them DONT live up to the legend. The majority manufactured were the 6es, and just knowing that my 13 year old v6 is faster than some of these v8s... ...well, sorry

I go to car shows many of which are littered with mustangs. Some of which I'll see each car you speak of with atleast 10 of each present. And then I see my mustang. People dont think its special. Its a 13 year old 145 hp ford. But its the ONLY 6 cylinder there, and almost always the ONLY one of that body style, and wow, stock, its faster than those cars.

Oh, and BTW, 2005+ v6 mustangs came with 210hp, and the very last 5.0 gt only put out 215hp... ...thats pretty sad.

 

Ok, first of all the coupes are just ugly as hell

Second a 93 5.0 would get 0wned by a brand new STOCK v6 mustang.

How are you suppost to look cool when youre being passed by something like that?

I mean, I'll respect a 93 v8 coupe, for 2 reasons 1) its a mustang and 2) its the legendary 5.0, but its 205 hp... ...now considering that the engines 14 years old theres probally some power loss there

 

Yes, I am quite aware of virtually all of the companies I listed having V6 performance parts/cars. But like i said before I was referring to the top model they have to offer... which !=V6. I don't quite get where you were going with this whole wanting to be unique thing..... If I wore clothes that 5 billion people also wear.... I don't give a ****, I wear it because they are the way I like them... They are MY clothes. Bottom line, there is always someone who thinks along the same lines as you do. All I'd do, if I met this person is smile, give a wave, and think "heh, great minds think alike!" "Unique" is just another elitist definition in a modest fashion.

HP also != defintion of muscle car. That pre-80s statement only meant that they are one of the best representations of a "muscle car" Mustang to date. If by 6es you mean 6 cylinders.... its perfectly understandable.......BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAPER!!!111 To many people that wanted the Mustang that couldn't afford the v8... the v6 was the next best (affordable) thing.

 

No I didnt work there when it was Village Ford? What lady are we speaking about?

and fox bodies suck jk kinda

The new v6 had to be tuned down becuase it was keeping up with the v8's. funny eh?

 

v6 mustangs are just like v6 camaros and firebirds.... useless.... until you drop a 302 in it! JK!

The v6 mustang was made for an economic sports car (whatever that is). I see that the companies want to make money and some people can not afford a v8 but.... it is a "sports car".... not "family friendly eco box (still only get about 16 mpg) that is suppose to look like a sports car".

A new corvette is ready.... faster than the z06.... *drool*

 

You can get them cheaper than that - I ran through autos.msn.com to Price with Options just to see what the cheapest you could get into a GT was - I couldn't avoid the optional 3.55 gears (I'm presuming they're 3.23 stock?) and it was still around $24,000 - which isn't bad for 300 hp. Like I said, you just have to plan on redoing the entire suspension, every Mustang I've driven in real life and simulation has been just really unpredictable and twitchy. My wife's 140hp v6 did a 180 when she was pulling out of a parking lot onto a dry road, and she's got 275/35's on the back of that thing, and drives like an old lady most of the time.

 

I have to agree the 93 mustang coupe was one of the better foc boddied mustangs. it was very light, and I doubt it would loose to a new v6 mustang...how heavy are those things...right!

how did this thread turn into a mustang thread? give me an F40 with tubi exhaust and you can keep all your mustangs.

 

Fox bodied Mustangs just weren't that fast. I raced a Police Interceptor Highway Patrol Mustang in my base engine (132hp) Neon to 60mph, and there was less than a car-length between us. I mean, my Neon's not stock anymore, but it probably doesn't have 150hp still.

Mustangs have an awesome musclecar rep because of what you CAN do to them, not because of what they come from the factory with, which I guess sums up what I was trying to say before. They're the great American Tuner car. You can almost get a pair of ceramic coated headers (that's two sides!) for a Mustang cheaper than you can buy a used stock exhaust manifold for the RX7. :P

And if you gave me an F40 with tubi exhaust, I'd sell it and pay off my house.

 

Well now since we're now on the topic of "give me (insert car here: For Free)"
Give me a completely stock Veyron and you can try your best to mod that F40 to keep up hahahahaha.

 

I was going with a car from the 80's with all the 5.0L and such. but if you really want to run your Veyron against my modded F40, better get use to looking at my taillights!

 

Just wait I get my TII powered Caterham Super 7. I'll spank all of you, for less than $40,000.

 

Fc Ftw!

 

you kidding a caterham powered by a TII...I will lone you some binoculars that way you could still make out that little blurry red spec (ME!) of in the distance pulling away from you.

 

No no, a TII powered Caterham.

With a 200hp Ford Focus motor in it, it's a 5:1 power to weight ratio. The Z06 Vette is like, what, 10:1? With a nice conservately setup 300hp TII motor in it, the weight ratio would be around 3.3:1. Plus it would turn corners like teh awesome. I'd blow your doors off to about 140-150 - no way I'm going faster than that in that little thing. Then I'd use my binoculars so I could make out that little blurry red ball of flame in the distance from where some soccer mom on her cellphone changed lanes in front of you in her Yukon without signalling.