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Old 07-09-24 | 09:27 PM
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well the coldest is typically 11 or 11.5, so it’d be interesting to see how this plays out against the electrodeless side gap plugs that some people are fussing over in only a 10 heat range, erroneously so in my typical vocal yet idiotic opinion, and all those pro race engine builders with 40 - 50 years experience …

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati.../#post12552286

I pretty much have a near-lifetime supply, but for anyone else in need (note Qty 4 = $11.25 each):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26671038327...kAAOSwbhNl61TU
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Old 07-12-24 | 11:10 AM
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Successful dyno session. Car made 401 whp peak and 363 tq. @20 psi dropping to 19 (need to give some extra duty over 6500). This is on a mustang dyno and the operator informed me it may be slightly lower than actual due to having to strap the car down so hard (small tires). Please find the log file attached and the CSV from the dyno. It is still quite rich in the high boost area (9.6 afr/.67-.68 lamda) and I will be working on leaning it out over the coming street drives.

No issues came up while we were on the dyno, peak egts were monitored manually and did not exceed 1500 degrees. Revtech did a great job with the fans:




Now I can focus on making the car look half decent now that it runs well and makes some ok power.
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Old 07-12-24 | 11:17 AM
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Find attached the PDF of the outputs overlayed from the first pull. Kind of messy but was the output provided
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Old 07-12-24 | 01:32 PM
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After reviewing the logs it looks like the fuel pressure regulator is not functioning on a 1:1 ratio. I don't think its a fuel flow issue as it has an odd rising ratio even in lower boost.

Good reason to have a fuel pressure sensor compensates and lets me know there's a problem
Old 07-13-24 | 08:38 AM
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Here's a quick video of one of the later pulls. Phone mic quality is not very good

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Old 07-14-24 | 05:17 AM
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Power sounds right for a Non Dynojet dyno. Good work
For that boost level I would not be trimming back the afr. Keep your EGT at 1500 and it will live for a long time to come.
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Old 07-14-24 | 09:50 AM
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Power sounds right for a Non Dynojet dyno. Good work
For that boost level I would not be trimming back the afr. Keep your EGT at 1500 and it will live for a long time to come.

I'd agree, I shoot for ~10:1 then trim to EGTs after that. ~9.5:1 is definitely acceptable.
Old 07-15-24 | 10:14 AM
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I took the CSV from the dyno tech and made a nicer looking graph without the extra lines. The dyno tech did not connect the dyno to the ECU/Car for some reason so the rpm is estimated/incorrect :/



I specifically asked for data with 0 smoothing
Old 07-15-24 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Mansour
I took the CSV from the dyno tech and made a nicer looking graph without the extra lines. The dyno tech did not connect the dyno to the ECU/Car for some reason so the rpm is estimated/incorrect :/



I specifically asked for data with 0 smoothing
Is this a normal amount of lumpiness?
Old 07-16-24 | 09:54 AM
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Is this a normal amount of lumpiness?
The early part of the graph oscillates due to the dyno loading and unloading the car. The upper range seems fairly normal with 0 smoothing but the dips should be investigated. RPM just doesn't match so its hard to understand where exactly in the log I should be looking
Old 07-16-24 | 03:08 PM
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Try and get yourself on a Mainline or Dyno dynamics hub dyno.

Get a much better view of what is happening and a more realistic picture of what's happening on the road. Dynojet is just trash
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Try and get yourself on a Mainline or Dyno dynamics hub dyno.

Get a much better view of what is happening and a more realistic picture of what's happening on the road. Dynojet is just trash

This wasn't a Dynojet, and Mustangs are load bearing. There's no reason why good information can't be found on this other than the tech didn't know how to/didn't want to change up the load strategy for something with such little stroke.
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Old 07-16-24 | 03:37 PM
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Never used a mustang dyno but the fact that theres so much oscillation at the beginning of the run makes me think the PID on the dyno isn't good either.
Old 07-16-24 | 04:55 PM
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Never used a mustang dyno but the fact that theres so much oscillation at the beginning of the run makes me think the PID on the dyno isn't good either.
Again, that oscillation is due to improper use of the tool, not that a Mustang may be stone aged such as an older Dynojet. I can make my Dynapacks do the same if I ham-fist the load setup.
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Old 07-29-24 | 07:46 PM
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Update:

Car has been running great at 20PSI. The power is tons of fun and its amazing how much faster it feels.

I dont like the sound of the electronic boost solenoid though its pulsing makes the exhaust sound odd. May look into the turbosmart dual stage boost controller.

Other thing I have noticed is that after very hard runs it sounds like one of the wastegates sticks slightly open. The exhaust sound changes and I can hear the individual pulses from one of the rotors. What's odd is once I pull off from a light I hear it close again fully with ~15% throttle. Do I need to rebuild my WG after ~12k miles?

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what frequency are you using for the solenoid
Old 07-30-24 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Mansour
Update:

Car has been running great at 20PSI. The power is tons of fun and its amazing how much faster it feels.

I dont like the sound of the electronic boost solenoid though its pulsing makes the exhaust sound odd. May look into the turbosmart dual stage boost controller.

Other thing I have noticed is that after very hard runs it sounds like one of the wastegates sticks slightly open. The exhaust sound changes and I can hear the individual pulses from one of the rotors. What's odd is once I pull off from a light I hear it close again fully with ~15% throttle. Do I need to rebuild my WG after ~12k miles?

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How have you got them plumbed and where is your reference from? Sounds like you are getting vacuum on the top port pulling it open.
Old 07-30-24 | 12:28 PM
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what frequency are you using for the solenoid
33hz
Old 07-30-24 | 12:28 PM
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How have you got them plumbed and where is your reference from? Sounds like you are getting vacuum on the top port pulling it open.
I have it currently plumbed right into the compressor housing


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At 33hz you usually can't hear the wastegate opening and closing under boost. Interesting that it does.
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Might be worth checking you don't have a broken spring.
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