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Old 03-10-06 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PhatManBUD
i orginally wanted the AF61, my friend has one its awesome. but due to budget reasons im gonna be going with the T61. Maybe when it takes a dump, or its not putting out like i want it, ill move onto the AF61!
kudos to you for not giving into the "others self indulgence of ignorance"
.........anyway, it's healthy to keep an open mind! good job for doing your research!

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Old 03-10-06 | 07:33 PM
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does every word that comes out of your mouth, or off your fingers onto the keyboard for that matter have to be completly negative. Just look back on the things you have typed, even on this thread. How old are you? grow up seriously.

BTW the af61r is a great turbocharger, good job.
Old 03-10-06 | 07:39 PM
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my negativity is opposing thier negativity. should i just keep my mouth closed and let people talk crap about my product! i think not!!!!!!!

anyway, thanks again!

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Old 03-10-06 | 07:48 PM
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why don't you just post a compressor map.

SOME PEOPLE like to actually know what they're buying, and what its capabilities are.
Old 03-10-06 | 07:54 PM
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because it's a hybrid unit i cant get a map. i'm done ..please revert to other that have actually used one!

ps.. do you have any guitars for sale? give me the lowdown! i'm looking for a les paul strat.

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Old 03-10-06 | 07:55 PM
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ask whoever you get the compressor from for a map.

if you "teamed up with garrett" on this one, wouldn't they have a map for you?
Old 03-10-06 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
ask whoever you get the compressor from for a map.

if you "teamed up with garrett" on this one, wouldn't they have a map for you?
Compressor maps are for women. The only people I see asking for them are nerdy-pimple-popping RX7 owners.
Old 03-10-06 | 08:09 PM
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One more time, beacuse it's not an off the shelf wheel i cant get a map. please ...call Garrett and ask the ******** there if you can get a map for a certian wheel??? they'll laugh at you! Honestly, with the lack of support from Garrett, thier misinformation, warehouse whoring, and selling 10 year old technology as the newest and greatest--- - i am be using less and less of thier parts. My sales are generally custom trim related and because i actually care about what i sell and my customers i try to build each unit as economical as possoble without sacrificing on preformance and quality!!!!!!! BYE!!!!
Old 03-10-06 | 08:38 PM
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actually, garrett posts their maps right on their website. so of course they'll laugh at you...and they'll tell you to have a look at the site. it's all right there.
don't believe me?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...40/GT4088R.htm
compressor and turbine.

if you care sooooooo much about what you're selling, why haven't you done your homework on it? you're selling a product, and you don't even know what it's capable of! and since you don't know what it's capable of, how are you modifying it (besides grinding off the numbers). aren't you testing it before and after modifications? it looks to me like you've made some big claims without testing, and you just hope your customers are going to be lucky and actually hit those numbers.

so far all i've seen is one dyno sheet with boost creep ~420 whp @ 16-17psi, and a lot of talk.
Old 03-10-06 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LUPE
Compressor maps are for women. The only people I see asking for them are nerdy-pimple-popping RX7 owners.

are you an idiot? i understand you have someone do all your work for you, so it's not important if you can't read a compressor map. but the rest of us do like information.
Old 03-10-06 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
are you an idiot? i understand you have someone do all your work for you, so it's not important if you can't read a compressor map. but the rest of us do like information.
I've done all my work except for tuning. What do you have? Nevermind, I guess you like to race through calculations and theory.
Old 03-10-06 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28

so far all i've seen is one dyno sheet with boost creep ~420 whp @ 16-17psi, and a lot of talk.
Open your eyes. Dyno sheets have been posted all over.
Old 03-10-06 | 08:54 PM
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i have a commuter car. i'm not into the dyno-***** stuff. a 35r putting 400+ to the ground on 91 octane is good enough for me.

the difference between you and i is when i want to change something, i not only can do the work, but the calculations behind it as well. there's more to it than just turning a wrench. don't persecute me because of your ignorance.
Old 03-10-06 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LUPE
Open your eyes. Dyno sheets have been posted all over.

maybe i missed them. go ahead and link me.
Old 03-10-06 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
i have a commuter car. i'm not into the dyno-***** stuff. a 35r putting 400+ to the ground on 91 octane is good enough for me.

the difference between you and i is when i want to change something, i not only can do the work, but the calculations behind it as well. there's more to it than just turning a wrench. don't persecute me because of your ignorance.
If you're not a dyno ***** then why are you asking for dynosheets?

Why do you keep bitching about a turbo that you've never seen, used or interested in?
Old 03-10-06 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
maybe i missed them. go ahead and link me.
Go ahead and link yourself.
Old 03-10-06 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
actually, garrett posts their maps right on their website. so of course they'll laugh at you...and they'll tell you to have a look at the site. it's all right there.
don't believe me?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...40/GT4088R.htm
compressor and turbine.

if you care sooooooo much about what you're selling, why haven't you done your homework on it? you're selling a product, and you don't even know what it's capable of! and since you don't know what it's capable of, how are you modifying it (besides grinding off the numbers). aren't you testing it before and after modifications? it looks to me like you've made some big claims without testing, and you just hope your customers are going to be lucky and actually hit those numbers.

so far all i've seen is one dyno sheet with boost creep ~420 whp @ 16-17psi, and a lot of talk.
how do you get by day to day with the blindness you have? LISTEN UP ....I DONT USE AN OFF THE SHELF WHEEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I REALLY THINK YOUR NOT ONLY IGNORANT ON THIS SUBJECT YOU'RE ALSO DEAF... IT MUST BY PLAYING THE OLE 'TAR TOO MUCH!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-10-06 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by D-R Autosports
how do you get by day to day with the blindness you have? LISTEN UP ....I DONT USE AN OFF THE SHELF WHEEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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i didn't say you did. but you obviously don't know what you're using. send a wheel in to turbonetics and have them test it and build a map for you.
Old 03-10-06 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
i didn't say you did. but you obviously don't know what you're using. send a wheel in to turbonetics and have them test it and build a map for you.
how about i send it to you and you answer yourself by sending it to turbonetics..being that you have obviously simplified things that the engineers cant seem to do?


i posted the efficency that i was given 82% @ 64ppm@18psi ...this was an estimate given to me my the Garrett engineer. His reasoning of this high efficency rating was due to the lower rpm flow numbers being high because of the energy of the turbine being able to counter the aggression of the compressor wheel due to it's leading area being shorter. the wheel originally was like 76%.

i'm now trying to be rational.. please dont offend yourself again.
Old 03-10-06 | 10:43 PM
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ok, i'll send it in to turbonetics. want my mailing address?

honestly, how do you even know what you have there if you've never seen a map. you're just relaying what the garrett engineer told you or what?

before, you made it sound like it was a heads up collaboration. if you helped design it, i couldn't imagine you not being able to see the map. there's too many holes in your story.
Old 03-10-06 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
ok, i'll send it in to turbonetics. want my mailing address?

honestly, how do you even know what you have there if you've never seen a map. you're just relaying what the garrett engineer told you or what?

before, you made it sound like it was a heads up collaboration. if you helped design it, i couldn't imagine you not being able to see the map. there's too many holes in your story.
holes in my story...YOU MUST HAVE HOLES IN YOUR HEAD! i said with the help of a Garrett engineer we were able to come up with a really efficent wheel even though it was kinda of an accident. You must understand that Garrett won't spend the money it cost to create a map for a TURBO THAT ONLY USES A COUPLE OF THIER PARTS ...let alone a person only selling a few per month! ****, THEY ARE NOW IN THE BUSINESS OF PUTTING THE LITTLE GUY OUT OF BUSINESS....JUST ASK THIER WD'S WHOM HAVE BEEN DOING $1.000.000 PER YEAR FOR OVER 15 YEARS . Anyway, only my customers will represent my products... not some naysayer!!!!
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
maybe i missed them. go ahead and link me.
I made 452 on a stock ignition at 21psi.....Break up galore and steve lifted on the tune its all visable on the sheet you can see for yourself here.

want a video? here...
http://media.putfile.com/Rx7-FD3S-AF...steve-kan-tune
Now i have no doubt in my mind this turbo will do over 500whp....i wanna get mine tuned and dynoed to over 500 but i'm thinkin about goin with rons new AF70
Btw i installed a tial 44mm and MSD6a with T2 coil since the tune/dyno/video.....car hauls *** at just 14psi.
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Is that flywheel HP?? Thats what it says on that chart.
Old 03-11-06 | 03:16 AM
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Is that flywheel HP?? Thats what it says on that chart.

I am fairly certain that dyno allows the operator to enter a factor to calculate flywheel horsepower.

In this instance the factor he used was 1.0 since power = powerfly...in other words that is the horsepower at the wheels... no drivetrain loss taken.

If a drive train loss was used the factor would be less then 1.0 and the corresponding powerfly number would be greater than power number.
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it's rwhp.



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