T61 vs. AF61, decisions decisions
03-10-06 | 03:57 PM
#27
multipersonality disorder
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,656
Likes: 0
From: so. cal
Originally Posted by LUPE
Does the T61 come with a 2 year warranty like the AF61 does?
Parts for the AF61R are very very very easy to find.
Parts for the AF61R are very very very easy to find.
sure they are. only problem is you don't know what the hell is in there, so you don't know what to buy.
03-10-06 | 04:04 PM
#28
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,506
Likes: 0
From: Belleville, IL
Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
sure they are. only problem is you don't know what the hell is in there, so you don't know what to buy.
03-10-06 | 04:13 PM
#29
Rotary Freak
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,640
Likes: 0
From: l.a.
Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
sure they are. only problem is you don't know what the hell is in there, so you don't know what to buy.
03-10-06 | 04:31 PM
#31
Be a Hero...Punch a Koala
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,022
Likes: 0
From: Evansville, IN
Originally Posted by fdracer
dude, it's a freakin' s300. parts aren't that special or hard to find.
03-10-06 | 04:32 PM
#32
best person
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
From: Belleville IL
Originally Posted by RacerXtreme7
Dude chill.
Aren't you a business owner or at least represent a business? Isn't this a place were a LOT of your customer basis derives from (this forum)? Nice behavior, but it seems typical from you and those idiots who seem to be constantly licking your ***.
I had a long reply typed up as to your "posting bogus numbers" and in general straight up lies (anyone remember a certain someone saying the AF61 was a "special turbo" that GARRETT modifies?
). You are the king of it bullshit, but to keep this thread civil and on topic I'll refrain from posting the complete bullshit you have posted in the past (good thing for your sake a lot of those post got deleted, but there’s plenty of readers here who won't forget it). So if you have anything else to say to me be it another insult or whatever (though I haven’t a thing to say to you), PM me and keep this thread from turning into garbage.
I’m sure the temptation will be too great for you NOT to post an ego induced idiotic reply, so I'll let you have the last word and wont respond to it on this thread as to not ruin PhatManBuds post.
~Mike............
Aren't you a business owner or at least represent a business? Isn't this a place were a LOT of your customer basis derives from (this forum)? Nice behavior, but it seems typical from you and those idiots who seem to be constantly licking your ***.
I had a long reply typed up as to your "posting bogus numbers" and in general straight up lies (anyone remember a certain someone saying the AF61 was a "special turbo" that GARRETT modifies?
). You are the king of it bullshit, but to keep this thread civil and on topic I'll refrain from posting the complete bullshit you have posted in the past (good thing for your sake a lot of those post got deleted, but there’s plenty of readers here who won't forget it). So if you have anything else to say to me be it another insult or whatever (though I haven’t a thing to say to you), PM me and keep this thread from turning into garbage.I’m sure the temptation will be too great for you NOT to post an ego induced idiotic reply, so I'll let you have the last word and wont respond to it on this thread as to not ruin PhatManBuds post.
~Mike............
again!
03-10-06 | 04:52 PM
#35
Originally Posted by PhatManBUD
stop fighting!!!
cant someone just answer my question!
Will the T61 deliver what i want!
400+ @ 14psi
450+ @ 18psi
cant someone just answer my question!
Will the T61 deliver what i want!
400+ @ 14psi
450+ @ 18psi
YES, granted all other things in your set up are optimal and tuned well.
~Mike............
Last edited by RacerXtreme7; 03-10-06 at 04:55 PM.
03-10-06 | 04:57 PM
#36
BDC Motorsports
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,667
Likes: 6
From: Grand Prairie, TX
Originally Posted by LUPE
wrong.
Kudos to all of you out there who are still sticking up for the truth.
B
03-10-06 | 04:59 PM
#37
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,506
Likes: 0
From: Belleville, IL
Originally Posted by BDC
Not wrong. He's right. It is a Schwitzer S300, atleast a derivative of it. It's already been proven. It sure as heck isn't a "joint venture between DaVinci and Garrett" as we were all misled to believe at one time in the past.
Kudos to all of you out there who are still sticking up for the truth.
B
Kudos to all of you out there who are still sticking up for the truth.
B
Last edited by LUPE; 03-10-06 at 05:01 PM.
03-10-06 | 05:09 PM
#41
Rotary Freak
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,640
Likes: 0
From: l.a.
Originally Posted by KaoticFdR1
Ding wrong again....i had a long convo with ron yesterday and the day before he told me why everyone gets the wrong idea about this turbo....and i now get it why everyone wants to call this an s300......there is some work that goes into this turbo....its not "off the shelf" and if i wanted to rebuild it myself i could since ron told me what parts i would need....but since IT DOES HAVE a 2 year warranty why do it myself when Ron's a no BS guy and wouldn't hesitate to help me out.
03-10-06 | 05:18 PM
#42
Rotary Freak
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,640
Likes: 0
From: l.a.
Originally Posted by LUPE
It's already been stated that it's a modified S300. We're you the one who said that there is no way the AF61R is modified at all? Weren't you the one who said 400whp was impossible to reach with the S300?
03-10-06 | 05:23 PM
#43
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,506
Likes: 0
From: Belleville, IL
Originally Posted by fdracer
if you're gonna that it's modified then spit out what exactly is modified about it. tell us what's been done to it that makes it so special. the average consumer can't exactly go buy an s300 and modify it himself, so what's the point of keeping the "modifications" a secret. and if it's so specialy modified why are the dimensions and a/r's exaclty the same as an off the shelf s300. what's the point of lying to people who are giving d-r their hard earned money. it's still the best value out there so people will still buy it, and the shop still makes a good profit on them. both parties win, so what's the point of all the bs.
03-10-06 | 05:32 PM
#45
REW'd FB
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,685
Likes: 0
From: WA
BUD- I can't speak specifically on the T61. But there is an awesome database that has compiled a bunch of turbos with dyno graphs. I can't find the site but you might want to look there.
Ultimatley when choosing my turbo I looked at the most hp that I would ever want. It was 500. So granted for the price the AF61 was the best bang for my buck. Look at the max hp that you want and then size accordingly. Spool and all the other small attributes will fall in line after you choose.
From what people are asying the T61 sounds like a good turbo.
Anyone have a link?
Z
Ultimatley when choosing my turbo I looked at the most hp that I would ever want. It was 500. So granted for the price the AF61 was the best bang for my buck. Look at the max hp that you want and then size accordingly. Spool and all the other small attributes will fall in line after you choose.
From what people are asying the T61 sounds like a good turbo.
Anyone have a link?
Z
03-10-06 | 05:49 PM
#46
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,468
Likes: 0
From: S.Cali, OC!
i see what u mean, im looking for 475-500 whp max when im completely ready. but right now something that will give me over 400 at 14psi. just enough to scare the **** out of everyone that goes for a ride
03-10-06 | 06:04 PM
#47
Originally Posted by BDC
Kudos to all of you out there who are still sticking up for the truth.
B
B
Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
so...
can we see a compressor map of the af61?
can we see a compressor map of the af61?
Originally Posted by PhatManBUD
thank you racer extreme
btw, I have yet to knock the AF61, just the way it was untruthfully marketed at first (thats putting it politley, more like flat out lies about the turbo). FWIW, it is a good bang for the buck, its just too bad it was shrouded in BS when released.
~Mike..............
Last edited by RacerXtreme7; 03-10-06 at 06:08 PM.
03-10-06 | 06:29 PM
#48
Originally Posted by RacerXtreme7
No prob, the T61 is a great match for ported rotaries. Theres several people who run it (I think one guy's ID is TransAm something or something like that runs one). And it has Garrett reliability and cheap and available parts.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=T61
I deleted his PM, however I believe he said around 450hp (or was it 475hp?) @ 20PSI.
03-10-06 | 07:15 PM
#49
best person
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
From: Belleville IL
Lets put it to rest! check with people whom have used both units and make your own choice...and not give in to the preverbial "sheepish"comments.
Anyway, who in the hell are you to critique the af61 when you have only 1 ******* idiotic jackass saying its a straight s300.. thats like saying because your vehicle has 4 tires its a car! i have not sold 1 unit that hadn't met it's expectations!
..... you notice how the negatice speaking morons keep feeding from others ignorance just because it's declairative!
man, this board if is full of blind haters!
Anyway, who in the hell are you to critique the af61 when you have only 1 ******* idiotic jackass saying its a straight s300.. thats like saying because your vehicle has 4 tires its a car! i have not sold 1 unit that hadn't met it's expectations!
..... you notice how the negatice speaking morons keep feeding from others ignorance just because it's declairative!
man, this board if is full of blind haters!
Last edited by D-R Autosports; 03-10-06 at 07:27 PM.
03-10-06 | 07:20 PM
#50
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,468
Likes: 0
From: S.Cali, OC!
i orginally wanted the AF61, my friend has one its awesome. but due to budget reasons im gonna be going with the T61. Maybe when it takes a dump, or its not putting out like i want it, ill move onto the AF61!