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oakridgerx7 01-10-05 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by RETed
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Oh, you gotta be kidding me, right?


I've had their POS SS turbo exhaust manifold in hand.
It's a piece of shit.
We do custom TIG welding on SS, and I know what a good SS weld is.
That turbo exhaust manifold is not even close.



Cheaper, yes.
More reliable?
I doubt it.



HOLY CRAP!
Did I just read that right???
Are you serious?
Then we're wasting our replies on you.



That pretty much sums it up.
I would bet the majority of your "experiments" don't make serious power reliably?


-Ted


I have built about 6 FDs this year alone, 2 for myself. My black car put down 342rwhp, and 316 torque at 16lbs. and 320 at 12 lbs. There are a lot of local people who can vouch for my skills building these cars so dont insult me! Finally someone responded that had a piece of ssautochromes products, thanks for your input regarding the manifold. The one that i got looks to have pretty decent welds, and all of the other parts look very well made also.

before anyone comes on here calling me names, just wait until I put this kit on to see what kind of power i can make with it, because honestly, no one knows!

RETed 01-10-05 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by oakridgerx7
I have built about 6 FDs this year alone, 2 for myself. My black car put down 342rwhp, and 316 torque at 16lbs. and 320 at 12 lbs. There are a lot of local people who can vouch for my skills building these cars so dont insult me!

Then you don't know who you're talking to either...
It goes both ways.



Finally someone responded that had a piece of ssautochromes products, thanks for your input regarding the manifold. The one that i got looks to have pretty decent welds, and all of the other parts look very well made also.
Do you weld stainless steel?
We do TIG, and I know what a good TIG SS weld looks like.
This manifold has ZERO weld penetration on the backside of the weld.
I dunno how they managde to do that (maybe MIG SS?), but SS welds with zero penetration scares me...


-Ted

rfreeman27 01-11-05 12:14 AM

[QUOTE=oakridgerx7]I have built about 6 FDs this year alone, 2 for myself. My black car put down 342rwhp, and 316 torque at 16lbs. and 320 at 12 lbs. [QUOTE]

I hope that is on stock turbos. Intake, exhaust, IC, and a PFC can net you 350rwhp at 15lbs on stock twins. It takes a hell of a lot of skill to bolt on some parts...

oakridgerx7 01-11-05 06:26 AM

[QUOTE=rfreeman27][QUOTE=oakridgerx7]I have built about 6 FDs this year alone, 2 for myself. My black car put down 342rwhp, and 316 torque at 16lbs. and 320 at 12 lbs.


I hope that is on stock turbos. Intake, exhaust, IC, and a PFC can net you 350rwhp at 15lbs on stock twins. It takes a hell of a lot of skill to bolt on some parts...
you should know by now that modifying anything these days is just using a few bolt ons. And show me a dyno chart where someone consistently put down 350rwhp on stock sequential twins. Its possible, but not likely. You know, it really pisses me off that most people get on here and tell someone something not by experience, but by hearsay. If you dont have the knowledge to answer a question, you need to stay off here answering things you dont know about.

RETed I see that you are a pretty seasoned rotary mechanic, I look for constructive criticism by people like you, and it doesnt bother me. I am much more likely to believe you because of your firsthand experience with these vehicles. Im not saying that anyone is wrong, but im the kind of person who likes to find out for himself.

zyounker 01-12-05 10:29 AM

BTW i know a guy who tried 2 of these turbos on his DSM.. 1st one blew on the 1st dyno pass. (Oil seal) Turns out the turbo was NOT balanced.

the replacement blew on its 2nd pull.. The front nut came off. Now this could have been due to compressor surge. I dont know i was not there when it happened. But It could just of likely not been put together well IMO.


So i personally know someone who has blown 2 of these, then went with someone elses turbo and has been fine since.

I know their quality control sucks.. So while you may get lucky and get one that holds together, it is like i said earlier. Russian roulette.


-Zach

SPOautos 01-12-05 10:40 AM

I'd say its about like Russian roulette with 5 rounds loaded into a 6 shooter

RETed 01-12-05 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by oakridgerx7
Im not saying that anyone is wrong, but im the kind of person who likes to find out for himself.

Sure, I got nothing against that.
We're just trying to prevent you from "wasting" your money.
If you insist on doing so, it's your money.
At the very least, it adds more data to the experience pool.
Good luck!


-Ted

bingoboy 01-12-05 06:48 PM

oakridgerx7

how about some upclose/detailed pictures of the kit pieces so we can see how it looks firsthand from someone here rather than taken from some other source?

oakridgerx7 01-12-05 07:46 PM

I will get my camera tomorrow, and get some pics

jacobcartmill 01-14-05 03:08 AM

waiting for pix

badboi24u 01-15-05 09:44 AM

yea i would like to see these pics too

Brent Dalton 01-16-05 03:35 PM

I've had a little experience with their parts(mostly manifolds and exhausts). I haven't had any problems with them. Given I have never bought a turbo kit from them, but I am waiting to see how Scott's kit turns out for the simple fact that his information is going to be first hand... not the good ol' "my friend has a friend who had one..." story. Good luck Scott and I look forward to seeing the results. I don't think I'll put one on my FD. But I have a nice 91 JSPEC that could use one when I find another T2 to put it in. Might have to try one out if yours turns out ok.

Brent

oakridgerx7 01-16-05 11:07 PM

thanks for the support brent! for everyone else, my digi cam took a crap on me. but, im gonna get a new one tomorrow


scott

vintagespeed 01-18-05 01:13 AM

Well I've read good & bad about these turbos, haven't ever used one and I'm on the fence at the moment.

I DO definitely have to take issue with someone that posts not only here but on other forums the same pics/post/bash, there's usually a motive for that kind of blatent cross-post BS. Usually it's a misunderstanding or someone trying to "get back" at a company they think did them wrong. Whether or not anyone did them wrong is usually the question, and in my humble experience it's most often the user that has done something wrong and wants something for nothing.

I'd like to believe this turbo will work for me because of the price and by the failure pics it does look like a bearing/bushing failure, the cause of the failure is the unknown factor. It's a VERY expensive proposition for a company to get into the biz of building any tooling-intensive item like a turbo and it's not something you can just start doing. The company manuf. these obviously knows how to build a turbo, but these may be factory seconds or who knows?

-jb

BlaCkPlaGUE 01-18-05 03:13 AM

Isn't XS technology or whatevery they're called mentioned in turbo and high tech performance every month? someone should write to the mag and show them this post ;)

oakridgerx7 01-18-05 05:18 AM

well, that is XS engineering.....totally different company!

unlavvful 01-21-05 12:21 AM

have you run the car yet with the new setup?

BlaCkPlaGUE 01-21-05 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by oakridgerx7
well, that is XS engineering.....totally different company!

heh, thanks for that, or I would have gone on thinking that they were the same! phew.

Just curious, but has anyone emailed SSautochrome on this thread? lol

adrock3217 01-14-06 10:06 PM

Sorry to bring this WAY back from the dead, but, I want to know - Why were the pictures / results never posted? Did the turbo disintegrate before it even got put on the car, or what?

Seeing as there were never any results, I'm guessing so.

If so, RETed+1

Brent Dalton 01-15-06 10:55 AM

I'm pretty sure he sold his car shortly after this thread. Don't know if he ever finished putting it on or not. I would assume not. PhatManBud is running one of these kits and has been running it for a while... he is just now starting to turn up the boost though. Manifolds seem to be good as a general concensus on the forum. The turbo seems to vary... but seems to be a hit or miss at the toss of a coin. In the end, I guess it's up to the consumer. I personally wouldn't put one of the turbo's on, but don't see a problem with the other products.

PhatManBUD 01-18-06 01:42 PM

Yeah...so far so good. Ive run it at 14psi a couple times on accident and it still hasnt split in 2 on me. And the car felt FAST. Im getting a 10psi spring for the wastegate so i could run it at 10 pounds all the time.

Nick_d_TII 01-24-06 12:38 AM

JUNK, I ebay alot, but would not trust them turbo's! To Me XS power means junk, They're prices are great though! Get some magnets for your fuel lines and a tornado you'll have more boost than one of these turbo's can put out... If you like em' good fer U, I don't want to experiment with them. Just have fun!


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