A-Spec 500R -vs- HKS or Garrett T04Z
#51
Originally Posted by No_Rotor_RX7
just to add in.. i recently did some datalogs on a customers gt500r stock port FD. we see 15+psi right around 4500/4600rpms. initial spooling is instant and response is obviously great... but after 10psi it just sort of creeps as expected from a decent sized turbo. 3" dp/exhaust, greddy fmic kit, apex boost controller, yadda yadda hahaha
this is STOCK port tho.
this is STOCK port tho.
#52
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I just got one of these stickers in the mail, I bought the small 6 inch one for my rear windshield
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#54
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
That is pretty HOT yo. Where didja get it?
#56
Originally Posted by books
What gear were you in when the logs were recorded? What was the AIT?
3rd gear... and as i have posted in other threads this isn't the first gt500r car we've done. there was another stock port car as well that spooled almost identical. the one i first mentioned is getting a motor built and ported by us so then we'll get to see what the turbo can really do. he's wanting to do a race gas tune of around 20psi.
#57
Originally Posted by pwwatkins
Maybe something is wrong there cuz I'm seeing 15 about 500 rpm under that with stock ports
did you datalog that or are you just watching the tach as you kick it? i thought the same thing until i reviewed my logs and noticed it was actually coming in later than it felt. the thing is tho, as it's spooling it's making great torque and doesn't feel as laggy as it sounds by any means.
if i was just driving it around kickin it i would serously think it had a 60-1 on there the way it's so linear and responsive, but you have to remember, this is a 66mm turbo.
#58
66mm ?
if i was just driving it around kickin it i would serously think it had a 60-1 on there the way it's so linear and responsive, but you have to remember, this is a 66mm turbo.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was a 82mm comp and 74mm turbine.
Barry
I thought it was a 82mm comp and 74mm turbine.
Barry
#59
Originally Posted by No_Rotor_RX7
just to add in.. i recently did some datalogs on a customers gt500r stock port FD. we see 15+psi right around 4500/4600rpms. initial spooling is instant and response is obviously great... but after 10psi it just sort of creeps as expected from a decent sized turbo. 3" dp/exhaust, greddy fmic kit, apex boost controller, yadda yadda hahaha
this is STOCK port tho.
this is STOCK port tho.
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I would have to agree with non ported engine causing the boost lag or is that called thresh hold? So many people misuse lag, that I forget. I'm at 10lbs no higher then 4200. I will have to check again if it's lower then i'll correct with another reply. I have not retuned at 15lbs yet.
Anyhow, where are the T04Z reply's? I don't think this is bashing anyone or any company because even if the Z has similar or even better numbers it costs a few thou$ more. There is also a generic T04Z which i'm shure could be made by A-Spec to work with their T04R kit.
Anyhow, where are the T04Z reply's? I don't think this is bashing anyone or any company because even if the Z has similar or even better numbers it costs a few thou$ more. There is also a generic T04Z which i'm shure could be made by A-Spec to work with their T04R kit.
#62
Originally Posted by GoRacer
I'm at 10lbs no higher then 4200. I will have to check again if it's lower then i'll correct with another reply. I have not retuned at 15lbs yet.
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Well i'm debating selling my 500R kit and Apexi FMIC and switching to all HKS (T04Z & V-Mount). I got quoted about $2k to custom install my A/C. There's no way i'll be without A/C in my car! I got a few PM from T04Z owners but no open replys on this thread. I'd like to see some pics of T04Z setups with working A/C.
I'd also like to see, if possible:
GT35R 1.06 vs 500R 1.06
and .85 A/R vs 1.06 A/R
I'd also like to see, if possible:
GT35R 1.06 vs 500R 1.06
and .85 A/R vs 1.06 A/R
#64
Jason is selling the Garrett T04Z if you want to save some money from the HKS markup.
http://www.rx7store.net/Garrett_Turb...ett%20t04z.htm
I allready have my T04R but i wish i had the "Z" option at the time. I think now that they are becoming more readily available they will be one of the more common setups. From what i understand the T04Z is very popular in Australia and Japan.
http://www.rx7store.net/Garrett_Turb...ett%20t04z.htm
I allready have my T04R but i wish i had the "Z" option at the time. I think now that they are becoming more readily available they will be one of the more common setups. From what i understand the T04Z is very popular in Australia and Japan.
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^ That's the Generic Garret version. The only reasons I wanted to do the swap was retaining the A/C (old HKS FMIC had A/C relocation kit) but they don't provide and A/C anything with the kit. I called them earlier today and was told none of their V-Mount kits have A/C relocation kits. So the positives with getting both HKS turbo and HKS v-mount are: Comes with FMIC piping (no rip off monkey fabricator ripoff cost there). Comes with air pump relocation bracket (no rip off monkey fabricator ripoff cost there).
#67
I would just wait for the v-mount FDNewbie is going to be releasing. They are making a kit option to retain the factory A/C. Then you can just run what ever turbo you want at that point.
https://www.rx7club.com/fdnewbie-archive-forum-190/fdnewbie-imports-v-mount-ic-options-611249/
https://www.rx7club.com/fdnewbie-archive-forum-190/fdnewbie-imports-v-mount-ic-options-611249/
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Originally Posted by Madee
This thread started over 4 months ago. No one but Broken09 has posted a dyno chart of the 500R. There has to be some others!
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...e8016655c4.htm
#71
Originally Posted by Madee
This thread started over 4 months ago. No one but Broken09 has posted a dyno chart of the 500R. There has to be some others!
with the exception of Rich's, haha it sounds good and rev's out nice and I bet it makes good power.
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#72
Regardless of if they don't make as much power as they want, I believe most folks just havent finished building, or they havent tuned yet, because they're waiting for the right tuner to tune their car. I like that Ramy is creating a vmount, but I also like the fact HKS has their own compressor tube. ALL other vmounts on the market don't have that option, unless their providing a GReddy compressor tube or some other company's compressor tube for their I/C kit.
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Well I beleive the GT35R, GT500R and the T04Z will all be around 415rwhp. This is from what little dyno numbers i've gathered. I don't see any diference between the 35R and 500R at 15lbs. I don't beleive I needed the bigger wheel myself but it was new and easier to do at the time of purchase. Also, since the boost start and peak on the 500R is about 3500-4500 and the T04Z is about 4000-5000pms I think the T04Z maybe be a closer match to the GT40R. At 15lbs I think the 35R is the choice. For CA people the "HKS" T04Z is clearly the closest to stock as possible and may be the better choice. The HKS V-Mount includes an elbow and pipe on the drivers side with more of a circular bend then the "S" shape of Greddy and OEM. It also comes with pipes from the turbo to the intercooler.
#75
Someone on this forum selling his FD had the full HKS T04Z kit (you can search in the car classifieds) and dynoed something like 495rwhp at 19psi.
EDIT: Did the search
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...highlight=t04z
but who knows what correction factors there were etc.
EDIT: Did the search
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...highlight=t04z
but who knows what correction factors there were etc.
Originally Posted by GoRacer
Turbo mag - May issue:
A-Spec 500R
Pettit Race Port
500hp @ 20lbs
Now i've seen the T04Z do 450rwhp @ 16lbs on JDM sites but I haven't found one @ 20lbs.
A-Spec 500R
Pettit Race Port
500hp @ 20lbs
Now i've seen the T04Z do 450rwhp @ 16lbs on JDM sites but I haven't found one @ 20lbs.
Last edited by Aristo; 03-09-07 at 01:43 AM.