Questions about doing a single turbo set up
06-21-06, 11:38 PM
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Questions about doing a single turbo set up
I want to change my car over to a single set up. I want to make between 350-400 horse on pump gas. Can anyone tell me what would be the best setup to do.
06-22-06, 07:57 AM
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You could easily do that with A-Spec's T3 GT35r kit. It'll spool very fast and still allow you some room to grow if you so choose later down the line.
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06-22-06, 08:09 PM
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You can get a nice quick spooling 400/500hp kit plus a twin fuel pump setup for $3048 that setup will include.
Garrett turbo 400-500+whp,stainless manifold and DP(warranted as long as you own it.),Tial wastegate, all lines fittings and hardware, blockoff plates and intake.
(2) 1680cc injectors & clips,(2)aluminum injector spacers, Top Feed fuel rail,fuel rail fittings, Fuel Pressure Regulator,Fuel Pressure Regulator fittings. ACV Block off plate, Resistors, Fuel Pressure gauge, Twin high flow fuel pumps and fittings.
This will set you up to run 400 on low boost and 500 when your ready to turn it up. Response will be nice not laggy. The manifold is tapered runners equal length and pretty much bullet proof. I'll throw in the tial BOV for $199 with the purchase.
Garrett turbo 400-500+whp,stainless manifold and DP(warranted as long as you own it.),Tial wastegate, all lines fittings and hardware, blockoff plates and intake.
(2) 1680cc injectors & clips,(2)aluminum injector spacers, Top Feed fuel rail,fuel rail fittings, Fuel Pressure Regulator,Fuel Pressure Regulator fittings. ACV Block off plate, Resistors, Fuel Pressure gauge, Twin high flow fuel pumps and fittings.
This will set you up to run 400 on low boost and 500 when your ready to turn it up. Response will be nice not laggy. The manifold is tapered runners equal length and pretty much bullet proof. I'll throw in the tial BOV for $199 with the purchase.
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06-22-06, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Zero R
You can get a nice quick spooling 400/500hp kit plus a twin fuel pump setup for $3048 that setup will include.
Garrett turbo 400-500+whp,stainless manifold and DP(warranted as long as you own it.),Tial wastegate, all lines fittings and hardware, blockoff plates and intake.
(2) 1680cc injectors & clips,(2)aluminum injector spacers, Top Feed fuel rail,fuel rail fittings, Fuel Pressure Regulator,Fuel Pressure Regulator fittings. ACV Block off plate, Resistors, Fuel Pressure gauge, Twin high flow fuel pumps and fittings.
This will set you up to run 400 on low boost and 500 when your ready to turn it up. Response will be nice not laggy. The manifold is tapered runners equal length and pretty much bullet proof. I'll throw in the tial BOV for $199 with the purchase.
Garrett turbo 400-500+whp,stainless manifold and DP(warranted as long as you own it.),Tial wastegate, all lines fittings and hardware, blockoff plates and intake.
(2) 1680cc injectors & clips,(2)aluminum injector spacers, Top Feed fuel rail,fuel rail fittings, Fuel Pressure Regulator,Fuel Pressure Regulator fittings. ACV Block off plate, Resistors, Fuel Pressure gauge, Twin high flow fuel pumps and fittings.
This will set you up to run 400 on low boost and 500 when your ready to turn it up. Response will be nice not laggy. The manifold is tapered runners equal length and pretty much bullet proof. I'll throw in the tial BOV for $199 with the purchase.
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06-23-06, 09:49 AM
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You two are like clockwork.
You would know this how?? I mean what are you basing this on?? Have you any idea about the turbo size? Wheel combo? Compressor flow/efficiency etc? By your assumption no FD could do over 370-380 on stock ports regardless of setup. I beg to differ 
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That's fine remove one of the pumps it only makes it cheaper. Whatever happened to you always telling people to buy more than they need because you KNOW they will grow used to the setup. I remember when you used to preach T78 all day long using that logic. I guess that dont apply here. With what's offered there is tons of room to grow. It will allow him to have the power level he wants now with good response, and when ready he wont need to rebuy another turbo or extra fuel upgrades. It will get over 500 to the wheels. Without T78 lag All quality, all genuine parts. All made in the USA 
Originally Posted by zayrx7
Also is his motor stock, I don't see him getting 400-500 on a stock motor, maybe 370-380
-S-
Originally Posted by Jason
If the car is stock then you will be spending close to $7k for a single setup. There is no need for dual pumps on an average street car.
That's fine remove one of the pumps it only makes it cheaper. Whatever happened to you always telling people to buy more than they need because you KNOW they will grow used to the setup. I remember when you used to preach T78 all day long using that logic. I guess that dont apply here. With what's offered there is tons of room to grow. It will allow him to have the power level he wants now with good response, and when ready he wont need to rebuy another turbo or extra fuel upgrades. It will get over 500 to the wheels. Without T78 lag
All quality, all genuine parts. All made in the USA
Last edited by Zero R; 06-23-06 at 10:02 AM.
06-23-06, 10:19 AM
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You two are like clockwork.
You would know this how?? I mean what are you basing this on?? Have you any idea about the turbo size? Wheel combo? Compressor flow/efficiency etc? By your assumption no FD could do over 370-380 on stock ports regardless of setup. I beg to differ
-S-
That's fine remove one of the pumps it only makes it cheaper. Whatever happened to you always telling people to buy more than they need because you KNOW they will grow used to the setup. I remember when you used to preach T78 all day long using that logic. I guess that dont apply here. With what's offered there is tons of room to grow. It will allow him to have the power level he wants now with good response, and when ready he wont need to rebuy another turbo or extra fuel upgrades. It will get over 500 to the wheels. Without T78 lag All quality, all genuine parts. All made in the USA
You would know this how?? I mean what are you basing this on?? Have you any idea about the turbo size? Wheel combo? Compressor flow/efficiency etc? By your assumption no FD could do over 370-380 on stock ports regardless of setup. I beg to differ
-S-
That's fine remove one of the pumps it only makes it cheaper. Whatever happened to you always telling people to buy more than they need because you KNOW they will grow used to the setup. I remember when you used to preach T78 all day long using that logic. I guess that dont apply here. With what's offered there is tons of room to grow. It will allow him to have the power level he wants now with good response, and when ready he wont need to rebuy another turbo or extra fuel upgrades. It will get over 500 to the wheels. Without T78 lag
All quality, all genuine parts. All made in the USA Since when do I tell people they need to buy more? For some customers I still recommend the T-78 as its a proven turbo, unlike yours. Sorry but your fuel system isnt going to support 500+ RWHP without upgrading the primary injectors and the price you listed its probably a 4088 which doesnt spool any faster than a T-78.
06-23-06, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason
First, I dont care what size turbo it is. I have dynoed enough cars to know what its going to do on stock ports.
Originally Posted by Jason
Since when do I tell people they need to buy more? For some customers I still recommend the T-78 as its a proven turbo, unlike yours. Sorry but your fuel system isnt going to support 500+ RWHP without upgrading the primary injectors and the price you listed its probably a 4088 which doesnt spool any faster than a T-78.
Now quit bickering.-S-
06-23-06, 02:37 PM
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[QUOTE=icydude]T78 is ancient technology.....there are so many new turbos that utilize ball bearing center hounding now.
i want to see a fd with a to4z[/QUOTE}]
I've ran a t78 for almost 4 yrs now, there are 2 local fd's here in town one with a 35/40 and GT40r. Both of them are tuned by well know tuners, and I have never been beat by one of them and have never gotten a jump on me. So if the T78 is old techonogy shouldn't I be getting spanked by the new technology.
i want to see a fd with a to4z
[/QUOTE}]I've ran a t78 for almost 4 yrs now, there are 2 local fd's here in town one with a 35/40 and GT40r. Both of them are tuned by well know tuners, and I have never been beat by one of them and have never gotten a jump on me. So if the T78 is old techonogy shouldn't I be getting spanked by the new technology.
06-23-06, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zayrx7
I don't see him getting 400-500 on a stock motor, maybe 370-380
https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/my-stockport-401-hp-pull-%2Avid%2A-548781/
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06-23-06, 06:10 PM
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Again depends on the turbo to think otherwise is wrong. 30R,35R,40R,42R all will produce the same numbers because of stock ports?? According to this:
That is what we are led to believe. Simply not true sorry. Not arguing just stating a fact. Certain comp wheels are more efficient at moving air. less heat=more air.
to think otherwise is wrong. 30R,35R,40R,42R all will produce the same numbers because of stock ports?? According to this:
I dont care what size turbo it is. I have dynoed enough cars to know what its going to do on stock ports.
06-23-06, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason
First, I dont care what size turbo it is. I have dynoed enough cars to know what its going to do on stock ports.
Since when do I tell people they need to buy more? For some customers I still recommend the T-78 as its a proven turbo, unlike yours. Sorry but your fuel system isnt going to support 500+ RWHP without upgrading the primary injectors and the price you listed its probably a 4088 which doesnt spool any faster than a T-78.
Since when do I tell people they need to buy more? For some customers I still recommend the T-78 as its a proven turbo, unlike yours. Sorry but your fuel system isnt going to support 500+ RWHP without upgrading the primary injectors and the price you listed its probably a 4088 which doesnt spool any faster than a T-78.
06-23-06, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Zero R
Again depends on the turbo to think otherwise is wrong. 30R,35R,40R,42R all will produce the same numbers because of stock ports?? According to this:
That is what we are led to believe. Simply not true sorry. Not arguing just stating a fact. Certain comp wheels are more efficient at moving air. less heat=more air.
to think otherwise is wrong. 30R,35R,40R,42R all will produce the same numbers because of stock ports?? According to this:That is what we are led to believe. Simply not true sorry. Not arguing just stating a fact. Certain comp wheels are more efficient at moving air. less heat=more air.
claborn1 said he is looking for 350-400HP and you are recommending a large turbo and duel fuel pumps. You obviously havent been doing this very long with those recommendations. Never mind the fact he is going to need about $3k more in parts to go single. Now quit bickering.
06-24-06, 12:53 AM
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And herein lies the problem, you still don't know the "given turbo" simple and sweet. I offered a turbo that will meet his power goals and offer comparable response to the ones mentioned before it. So not a large turbo. I offered a fuel system that is more than adequate for higher power levels when he gets bored and wants to turn it up some, port the motor or whatever. And as stated he can easily get just one pump. Either way it's a great setup. a 60-1 will be eh... on a well ported motor. Just as a 35R will run out of breath on larger ported motors. Those wheels will only move so much air efficiently. I'm just trying to suggest most of it being done right the first time. As opposed to changing half of it again a year or two down the road costing you even more again.
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06-25-06, 04:48 PM
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I have a holset h1e would that make the power i am looking for or is it to big? I also have another holset it is smaller i will have to go to my shop and get the numbers of it.
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