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Old 02-15-06, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
Sure, I'll say it.
Both the HKS and GReddy (at least spell it right) designs SUCK.
Wastegate ports are not placed efficiently, and the designs are made more to just fit the compact engine bay of the FC / FD.

When you need to build things right, make one yourself!


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do you actually think greedy was a spelling error? dumdum
Old 02-15-06, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by t-von
Turbo timers are a waste of money.
I'll be using a turbo timer to keep the main (E-01, Motec, cluster) toggle switch active for 3-5min after shut down to keep an electric pump and radiator fans running after power has been cut from the ECU.

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Old 02-15-06, 02:23 PM
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Old 02-16-06, 01:14 PM
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Old 02-19-06, 06:57 PM
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the exhaust looks like the engine have a lean condition. Also a very hot metal that make contac with cool water will crack because his expansion properties are reduced. If you look close to the crack, there is no metal composition problem. The welding is not a problem. The metal no crack in any normal circunstances. The only reason for that crack is the one that I said, a very hot stainless steel that make contact with cool liquid.
Old 02-19-06, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrometano
The only reason for that crack is the one that I said, a very hot stainless steel that make contact with cool liquid.
Thermal fatigue manytimes has nothing to do with "hot steel that make contact with cool liquid".

The truth is anytime a material is heated (steel, wood, playdough, etc...) it strains. That is it changes in dimension. If this change is dimension is in any way restricted then stresses are created. These stresses are then what causes the material to fail. These stress my not even be that large, but if repeated then the material could still fail. This is called fatigue.

Geometric discontinuities (micro and macro) cause stress concentrations. A fillet, weld, hole and small material void are all examples of stress concentrations.

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Well this is all I have to say about SSA....
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Old 02-19-06, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by t04tii
Well this is all I have to say about SSA....
Why are you flipping off your manafold??? Looks pretty good to me
Old 02-20-06, 02:43 AM
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I've worked with a few of these POS SS autocrome headers, they are made with Chinese uncertified steel products.. most of them have FAR too much carbon in them. which when heated/welded/modified in anyway will create a very very fragile metal. Even if you preheat then weld thier is still too many impurities in the metal from China to be worth $10 they are actualy worth. One thing that would help this header would be a divided flange to allow for expansion. but that's just like giving water to a dying man.. bit of a waste of time..

But with SO many people here and on jsut about every other fourm on the internet.. why are you actually surprized it cracked??


Originally Posted by Kahren
it has nothing to do with ss autochrome, most stainelss manifolds will crack, if you look up properties for SS you will see why its not the best thign to make manifolds out of. its got a high coeefficient of thermal expansion and its not very elastic. so when it gets hot its easier to crack. but either way that sucks
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Originally Posted by dubulup
I'll be using a turbo timer to keep the main (E-01, Motec, cluster) toggle switch active for 3-5min after shut down to keep an electric pump and radiator fans running after power has been cut from the ECU.

To coolant jackets, a TT in this application is worth its weight in platnium

For their original design intent they are useless however, they are usefull in other specialized applications.
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Originally Posted by t04tii
Well this is all I have to say about SSA....

Dam who made that manifold
Old 02-20-06, 06:08 PM
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Forum member 1Revvin7. Hes got a whole bunch of pictures here
http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...album&album=42

I can't wait to get back on the dyno.
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I've got a manifold for you. It's braced so you don't have the substantial weight of the turbo resting on the hot (and more maleable) manifold. It costs a little more to make, somewhere around $600, but it's well worth it.
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Originally Posted by shm21284
I've got a manifold for you. It's braced so you don't have the substantial weight of the turbo resting on the hot (and more maleable) manifold. It costs a little more to make, somewhere around $600, but it's well worth it.
the only way to explain that sort of fracture is with water.... period. you are NEVER going to cause any stress on the manifold that will crack the base metal. You might cause enough to get through the welds( if done improperly) but not like that. Thats cleary caused by rapid and uneven cooling. Where the metal contracted faster on one side than the other.
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Water never touched that manifold. I've got over 3k miles on my new manifold, and many miles running 20psi, and zero failures.
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Nice manifold !
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and mine is still holding. best $75 i ever spent.
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