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Old 07-07-04 | 09:41 PM
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kkk turbos??????????

does anyone know if kkk turbos are good or not? how they compare to GReddy or garrett. i have only heard of them once or twice so i dont know a lot about them.

here is a link for them http://www.srmotorsports.com/sr93trbo.html
Old 07-07-04 | 09:49 PM
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ErnieT = 10.76 on stock engine w/ no ports.

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Old 07-07-04 | 09:51 PM
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which kit is he running?
Old 07-07-04 | 09:52 PM
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I know SR uses them. I'm pretty sure they are high quality. I mean its where Porsche sources their turbos.
Old 07-07-04 | 09:56 PM
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yep.... i am getting the kkk-27 for myself... they are actually different.

the kit that SR uses is made by them. the kit that you buy from Blitz (very expensive) is made by blitz. i dont know the exact spec's but the turbo's that are used in porsche's and BMW's or something is made by Blitz. the sr is different but as for quality, i cannot say. i know the ones that are made "by Blitz" are very very high quality.......meaning it will most likely outlive the car!

hope this helps!

oh, and there are different stages of blitz turbo's and sr turbo's!
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yep.... i am getting the kkk-27 for myself... they are actually different.

the kit that SR uses is made by them. the kit that you buy from Blitz (very expensive) is made by blitz. i dont know the exact spec's but the turbo's that are used in porsche's and BMW's or something is made by Blitz. the sr is different but as for quality, i cannot say. i know the ones that are made "by Blitz" are very very high quality.......meaning it will most likely outlive the car!

hope this helps!

oh, and there are different stages of blitz turbo's and sr turbo's!
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Old 07-08-04 | 12:31 AM
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Old 07-08-04 | 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by rzograbian
yep.... i am getting the kkk-27 for myself... they are actually different.

the kit that SR uses is made by them. the kit that you buy from Blitz (very expensive) is made by blitz. i dont know the exact spec's but the turbo's that are used in porsche's and BMW's or something is made by Blitz. the sr is different but as for quality, i cannot say. i know the ones that are made "by Blitz" are very very high quality.......meaning it will most likely outlive the car!

hope this helps!

oh, and there are different stages of blitz turbo's and sr turbo's!
I thought the SR kkk turbos were something else, and that the blitz kkk turbos were made by a german company. If i was mistaken then.... sorry.

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Old 07-08-04 | 01:46 AM
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all the parts are made by kkk? however they are under exclusive contracts not to give company specific designs to other parties?

i believe it to be similar to garret, who provide turbo charges themselves, as well as to nissan and hks.
Old 07-08-04 | 09:18 AM
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a friend of mine has a sr turbo kit. the car has 390whp on a stock motor with all the bolt ons running at 14psi.
after 3 years of track use the turbo had to be rebuilt.

we removed the turbo and sent it to turbochergers.com.
the guy at turbochargers.com told my friend that the turbo was not a KKK. the turbo is a holset H1C used for diesel engines. and since sr grinds of all casting # and specs on the turbo we do not know the exact model of H1C he has. if any one out here has a sr turbo kit you can se that on the compresor huosing the holset name has also been grinded off. does it performs? hell yes it does. quick spool up and great power. is it reliable? hell yes again. it took 3 years of hard track abuse at almost one event per month. but it is not a kkk as they claim.
Old 07-08-04 | 10:26 AM
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so basically screw SR and holset? lol....even if it is a great turbo, shouldnt SR have a different name than going with kkk?
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Yep. We've already had the 'Is the SR a true KKK' flame wars.

I have the Stage 1, and yes its a great turbo, but its a Holset. All the distinguishing marks have been ground off.

As far as reliability goes, if you don't run high boost, then its reliable. I've had mine for 3 years now.
But at higher boost it likes to eat oil seals and Ray charges a shitload to rebuild...
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Triple K turbos = german brand, used in Porsches in Audi's. They are rebadged Blitz, and sold as a blitz kit.
Old 07-08-04 | 08:08 PM
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If im not mistaken Holset is owned by KKK so SR really isnt falsely advertising when you break it down but they are overcharging for their turbo kits though. And the Blitz turbo are made by KKK for blitz.
Old 07-09-04 | 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by RotaryExperimental
If im not mistaken Holset is owned by KKK so SR really isnt falsely advertising when you break it down but they are overcharging for their turbo kits though. And the Blitz turbo are made by KKK for blitz.
It is false advertising.
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I had the SR Stage 2 kit. They are NOT KKK turbo's. They are Holesets and are junk at that. VERY unreliable. Oil seals go out every 4k. It does put down some decent power, but I'd go a different route.......R85 would put you in the 10's and 9's with the right setup. (no nos) Watch for me. Late summer I'll be goin for my 9sec license in my new CYM.
BTW....Ray overcharges for these kits BIG TIME.....
Old 07-10-04 | 06:10 AM
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I got screwed by "allrotor93" on this forum. He sold me his holset, alias sr kkk stage 2, kit. Supposedly the turbo was just rebuild....it has huge play, seals are gone, vband flange totally banged up, manifold was cracked... I took it to get rebuild and the guy basically told me not to bother!!! Don#t know if he just beat the crap out of it or if these turbos don`t hold up. In any case he sold it to me under the pretense that he is going 20B. Now he just bought a R85 with my money.
Old 07-10-04 | 09:51 AM
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KKK, Borg-Warner 3K or whatever they're called, has the same operation as any Garrett, MHI, IHI etc. turbocharger. I don't think that any of these turbos is better than the other. They're all going to pressurize incoming air, so why are you asking the difference between each? 3K, MHI, and the others have turbos that have internal/or external wastegate applications. Bottom line: there's no difference.
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Originally posted by badfish229
KKK, Borg-Warner 3K or whatever they're called, has the same operation as any Garrett, MHI, IHI etc. turbocharger. I don't think that any of these turbos is better than the other. They're all going to pressurize incoming air, so why are you asking the difference between each? 3K, MHI, and the others have turbos that have internal/or external wastegate applications. Bottom line: there's no difference.
Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. There are many differences between turbo's/turbo companies. 360 thrust bearing option/ larger/smaller oil seal, single/dual ball bearing option....the list goes on and on. Some turbo's are nice, some are junk. Holeset is junk. There IS a big difference.
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What?! So, I didn't mention other turbocharger options. Big deal. You want to get technical, that's fine. Point is, they both take incoming air, and pressurize it somewhere else. They all have the same function, they just do it a different way. The difference is the many options that come with the turbocharger, i.e. thrust bearings, turbine housing style, etc. Why do you say Brand-X is junk and the other is gold?
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Originally posted by badfish229
What?! So, I didn't mention other turbocharger options. Big deal. You want to get technical, that's fine. Point is, they both take incoming air, and pressurize it somewhere else. They all have the same function, they just do it a different way. The difference is the many options that come with the turbocharger, i.e. thrust bearings, turbine housing style, etc. Why do you say Brand-X is junk and the other is gold?


There are some very knowledgable people on this forum. You should respect that by not posting simplistic crap like this. It is already hard enough to weed out all the BS, without more people adding to the fray.
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If im not mistaken Holset is owned by KKK so SR really isnt falsely advertising when you break it down...
You are mistaken. Holset is a UK company and they are a subsidiary of Cummins.
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I've been running my SR stage 2 for around 500 miles on low boost with no problems. (14-17lbs.) Ralph Friend of Groundzero said that for such a large turbo it spooled pretty quickly. I'm happy with it, but when this one goes, I'll probably try the T-66 route. CJ
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so basically screw SR and holset? lol....even if it is a great turbo, shouldnt SR have a different name than going with kkk?
what kind of #'s do you put down witht the stage 1? at what psi what other mods do you have? (if not secret)
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I had the SR Stage 2 kit. They are NOT KKK turbo's. They are Holesets and are junk at that. VERY unreliable. Oil seals go out every 4k. It does put down some decent power, but I'd go a different route.......R85 would put you in the 10's and 9's with the right setup. (no nos) Watch for me. Late summer I'll be goin for my 9sec license in my new CYM.
BTW....Ray overcharges for these kits BIG TIME.....
..........REACTIVE RACING...........
...........10.73 @ 128mph
(20psi Bone Stock Re-man)......
1.50 60' on ET. Streets
SR Motorsports Stage 2 KKK single turbo

R85? never heard of it who makes it? So you wouldnt recomend the sr kits not even after a 10.73? thats fast!

Does anyone know a good website/place to get fd turbo kits/turbos?



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