This is not the case I have made it clear many times. We were not a authorized distributer, we contracted RPM at the time to make kits, in return they were not allowed to sell the kits. Tim came on here at my request and stated kits made by RPM could only be bought through A-spec, this was done because people were trying to go around A-spec and buy from Tim. I can see how this could be mistaken for Authorized resller though.

 

its not just the one fact that there the same turbo, theres more than one reason as i stated.. its all very SIMILAR period, be in manfiold, turbo selection, and most importantly the description of the ad is word for word from the A-spec website... so besides the turbo selection which was 1 part can you honestly say the there turbo kit doesnt look SIMILAR and promoted using A-spec's words? obvouisly I dont think A-spec is the only place to get a 35R turbo byitself.
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'theres just too many obvoius similarites..

it is what it is...

Steve

 

Since when did A-spec invent the wheel? I know exactly how you guys started making your turbo kits, or should I say copied it off some other shop.

Do you know how many people use images and wording off my site? To many to count.

If the wording is a problem I will change it, but dont be an *** about it.

Jason

 

Bullshit!!!! How is Dave by the way????

Show me the turbo kit I copied please, PLEASE!!! You know what? Quit with the copy crap. You posted this before and it is a out an out lie, then locked the thread for no response. Wonder how long before you lock this one. You wanna get into being a *** we can right here in front of everyone or you can change the wording and quit saying things that are just not true, hey feel free to call anytime. My biggest problem with it is not the wording, more the fact that I have had people call here saying they have a A-spec kit on order they bought from you and/or are waiting on kits from you or missing parts on their kit from you, that is/was being made by me and whats taking so long. Funny since they was no order placed by you. Since I do not wholesale. Like I said sell all the 35R kits you want I have no problem with it.

 

Hey! it's my kit now! wheeeeeeee :P it's running great man...The manifold on mine is the older style but strength wise it looks like it would beat the **** out of the newer ones.


I think we should get the sales people from RX7 Store and A-Spec and have them fight to the death.

 

Who is Dave?

Im not going to go into this again. People know the truth about who was selling 35/40 kits first and is wasent you. You come off like you invented the damn turbo and manifold.
When was the last time someone called you about them purchasing an A-spec kit thru me? I havent sold a GT35 Kit in 3 years and if you remember correctly I have purchased a couple kits from you in the past, one of them for a local customer of mine, so you need to get your facts straight.

Obvouisly if you didnt have a problem with us selling kits you wouldnt be in this thread, because Steve was the first to chime in.

Jason

 

your first manifolds for the gt35/40 kits were straight copies of the the rpm ones. i remember cause they sucked ***. fact is, you can only build a manifold so many ways, and if it's a short runner design it's invariably going to look like someone else's short runner mani. if the rx-7 store is selling kits under the a-spec brand that are not coming from you, then that's another matter altogether.

 

OK, this is getting stupid!! The only thing copied was the text off Sean's site, period. It needs and will be changed to something that came from Phamspeed.

As far as who used the GT35R turbos first, who the hell cares. The fact of the matter is Garrett made these turbos and are used by many different companies. GT35Rs are very popular turbos, I shouldn't limit my turbo selection just cause someone else uses them. If that were the case I wouldn't have a turbo to choose from.

FDracer is so right about manifold design. There are only limited ways of making a manifold before you start to duplicate someone else's design. For a short design, especially one with only 2 bends, you can't help but make your creation look similar to someone else's. Bottom line is my manifold is way different than A-Spec's. I went through great lengths to make sure I did not duplicate anyone's manifold. Why did you think I used 2 wastegates? Did you think it was easier to route? It certainly wouldn't be the cheaper way that's for sure. My manifold runs down than out. A-Spec's runs up than out. These little things like that might not seem too drastic of a change, but that's the difference between Phamspeed's and A-Spec's manifolds.

I hear alot of great things about Sean and A-spec so I have respect for them. The only thing taken from them are the discription of his turbo kits. That will soon be changed as I am working on it now

 

Nice try, I guess that will be between me and you and Glassman then.


Whatever you go ahead along with all those people and believe second hand STORIES from third party sources. Who was involved with Tim here?? Last time I checked only me. Not you or Glassman or Dave or anyone else telling you anything. Unless you heard it from Tim or I you have nothing more than RUMORS which this board feeds on.

Ahh Ok... more than once this summer, I could bring up one forum member on here we both know about who specifically called here screaming where the F is my kit and we didn't even know what he was talking about, said you guys assured him it was a A-spec kit. I stopped selling kits to anyone after that happened. I have yet to see you honor one agreement we have made period.


Sell all the kits you want I have a consistant backorder take some of my pressure off please. I am here strictly to defend against the buzzards who wanna talk trash about stuff they THINK they know about. Steve well he can speak for himself and have his own opinions.

 

Welcome to Capitalism everyone. If you have a patent on something - then sue them - otherwise deal with it.

I can't tell you how many companies have "cloned" parts from foreign companies. If you want to sell more kits - make it from a better material, drop the price, throw in a free WG... you get the idea.

Competition is tough - but a good thing for all us consumers.

Good luck to all - seriously.

 

Here is what I am talking about. Wrong again Jesus!!! where do you guys come up with this.

Here I will make this clear for all to see. Tim/RPM had a manifold that was it he wasn't selling kits. I contacted him about putting together a US spec kit for a few reasons one of which GT35R's were not available here.He couldn't do this with out our input(left hand drive??) After they proved to fit and work we agreed he wouldn't sell them here(USA) this was because a few people were trying to get the stuff around A-spec/me. There were no copies. When Tim sold RPM I started making them here. Why because Tims fabricator quit when he sold the business to Ivan (who refused to keep the agreement after he said he would). They were always my kits I contracted RPM why is this so hard for anyone to get through their head.

Plain and simple If you weren't Tim or I, and werent there, you have no clue what your talking about you only think you do.


Very true, I don't think that John copied my design there are only so many ways to make it. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH JOHN I dont even know him.

Selling it under someone elses pitch or as someone elses product is a whole nother story.

 

John, A-spec or I have no issue with you at all. I wish you the best with your venture, you will find very little loyalty on here. I can't tell you how many people in this thread alone I have been more than helpful to only to be trashed in this thread and others. Good luck sincerely.

 

I did talk with Tim and thats where I got my info. I was contacted by them to sell their kits which was before you had produced your own.

I dont remember anyone ordering a 35R kit from me this summer. Like I have said I have not sold one in years.

I think people get the impression you have a problem with it since Steve was the first one to jump in and he works at A-spec.

Jason

 

Geez ... I've had about 10 people send me the link to this thread today saying "you gotta read this, huge **** fest".

Why is it ok to copy bodykits, or to copy a style of rims, or copy somebody else's tuning maps, but not ok to copy a turbo kit? "We spent the time to engineer it" you say, well so did all those other people. Bottom line, if it's that original you can patent it, or file for some sort of legal protection for your idea. If it's not that unique, then chances are 1000 people have had the same idea. Rarely is anybody truly 'first' in this industry anymore. Designs are so close to others, they're just tiny evolutions from each other. Now Garrett on the other hand, they are the ones here that had the original idea, and have since patented many revolutions in their GT series turbo.

I'm completely sideless in this one, A-Spec is an advertiser and longtime forum supporter ... Jason obviously has been my partner for years. Copying the wording directly is the only valid point here, everything thing else could be argued back and forth all day to a draw.

Just let it go, good luck selling turbo's, let the market settle things.

 

Very good points.

I have changed any wording on the kits that was similar to A-specs. I dont have anything against Sean or Steve. I have done business with them before and this shouldnt be a pissing match.

Jason

 

Gotta love the drama...

 

*double post*

 

Jason, say what you want it may have been Dave, I laid it out here, truth is even if Tim had contacted you, he had no kit nothing was made other than a manifold to fit the 35R on a 3rd gen. (right hand drive) Tim and I developed it for left hand drive. Like I stated above.
My biggest beef is as I stated too many people think they know the whole story about my dealing with Tim. Making accusations that I copied what was essentially mine bought and paid for and partially developed by me. Would suck wouldn't it if someone kept popping up and saying RX7store wasn't really yours wouldn't it? All the while not knowing what they are talking about.



I am not saying I invented it(35R) and it was all mine. I pretty much made a bad calculation in being up front with the people on here about a lot of things, next time time around I will certainly do things differently. I certainly wont be on the board as much helping around anymore as I feel it just makes me out as a target to shoot down. I am certainly tired of the drama all the time.

 

You know why 3M is so sucessful? They invent/make at least 7 new products every year. If you want to stay up top, you have to come up with new stuff (plain and simple). It's very easy for anyone to copy something but if you're already ahead of the game, they're just something in the past to you. By the time anybody is trying to copy it, you already have something new for other people. Sean, I think you're still ahead of the game with the GT40R and whatever else you're making for the community so I wouldn't worry too much about the 35R kit if I were you.

 

Unfortunately thats probably the best thing to do with sensitive information. Undoubtedly you did develop some new stuff, and trust people to not copy it. But nobody respects your hard work, sad but true. That's just business, happens a million times a day. Just protect yourself because nobody else will.

 

can't we all just get along

 

Back to the topic at hand, Q: At what RPM do you see full boost at? Lets say 15 psi?

 

depending on the engine, you could see 15psi by 3K rpms

 

Stock port, which is recommended for this turbo right?

 

obviously not since people are ****** when it comes to money.

btw......yes this turbo kit is good for like the bajillionth time....yes it will make more power than most people can handle..........yes you will see "full boost" by 3k rpm......geez the mods should have a FAQ section for GT35R,40R, T66,T78,T88.

I only come on this forum once every 47 days because the topics are always the same. Most of the RX7 community, I said most....not all, are the social outcast of society. Rotary owners rag on Honduhs, supras, etc.....when all they are is the kid in high school or the guy at work everybody makes fun of.


discus....