Are Injector Dynamics injectors just Bosch NGI2 injectors? The Bosch 2200cc injectors are half the price and seem to have the same specs. Also its high impedance so no hacking into the harness. I am just wondering how they will fit i know with Injector Dynamics you have to get an adapter. I wonder if you can use the same adapter on the Bosch injectors?

 

IDs are essentially Bosch EV14's that have been flow matched/balanced and have a warranty.

I'm sure if you ask an ID dealer you'll get a different perspective though..

 

I just ordered a set off eBay from Five0Motorsports; http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bosch-NGI-2-...item564709d91d

They look identical to the ID injectors, they don't have a damaged pintle cap (they aren't modified) and they are even plug-n-play with stock injector clips. They fit fine with LIM spacers/bosses that the ID's require anyway. Another friend with an FD who has all ID injectors said they look identical, save for the color of the extender.

I'm sure there are difference and perhaps some benefits from genuine ID injectors, but paying the +$180 cost difference per pair is up to you.

 

Thats the same ebay listing that got me thinking. Do you know anywhere beside ID that you can get the required spacers?

 

I just picked up a matched/balanced set of primary and secondary injectors from the same company. From what I've heard nobody has any horror stories associated with that merchant, so they def seem promising.

 

EV14 is basically a family of injectors... it comes in many different configurations and spray patterns

 

I just ordered these: http://shop.cj-motorsports.com/CJM-I...njadapters.htm

I got some spacers from KG Parts with my KG secondary rail, but they don't fit well in the LIM, I had to hammer them and they wouldn't bottom out, so I got the CJ ones.

 

duval7, I guess you haven't seen all the recent threads about these injectors and all the discussion on here about them, I suggest reading all that discussion about them and tuning with them. good find on them on ebay.

 

What about these. 1000/2000
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-2000cc-2-1...item3cb62d1102

 

^ still good injectors. Ppl get all butt hurt because they aren't id but in reality any inj is prob better built and calibrated than 15yr old ford 1680's.

 

I didn't see any peformance or HP gains when I switched from the bosch 1680s to the 2200s... Just a little lower idc's, it took alot of testing and tuning to get my tune right because of inj lag settings. although the new ones are better because the 1680s go static at 84% idc which makes them dump in more fuel and richen afr and lose hp, if you are close to maxing them out.

 

15 years? You do know they where designed in 1976 i belive

JT

 

Yes they are old as hell. It was more a figure of speech. That style has been around since the 70's but that doesn't mean they all are that old.

 

Talked with Jon at FIC today gonna order a set of 970cc and a set of 2000cc bosch unmodified tomorrow. Im not crazy with the idea of modified 550's injectors to get larger flows. Let you guys know what it works out to.

 

No problems turning1976 bosch 1600s secondaries on @ 3500rpm and 12psi and running an 11 second quarter mile. i guess i should throw them in the bin because they are obsolete.

 

even better yet.

Denso 195500-2020 Specification for injector dead time 550cc @ 3.0Bar rail pressure is 850uSec, which is actually faster than an ID725.

And the Denso was sold between 1989 and 1991. So whose development has gone backwards? Replaced metal with plastic. Its modernisation and manufacturing cost cutting which is the driving force for the mass adoption of EV14 injectors. Saying they are better in a blanket statement is plain moronic.

 

A carb could get you in the 11's too. No need switching to fuel injection based on that logic.

Denso does make very nice pieces. However, what's the linearity of that 2020? how pressure sensitive is it? atomization and spray pattern?

 

These threads are getting out of hand...... They are all good working inj. Some may be better than others but that's not saying one type is garbage and the other is the holy grail.

If your a dealer for one type it's kinda hard to give an opinion because obviously your opinions will be heavily biased to what you sell

A the end of the day they all will inject fuel into your engine. For the average person they will never see much diff between persay a ID and a Denso style inj. It's all apples to oranges.

 

+1

there's a difference, but to some it may be the difference between buying namebrand for example versus non name brand. you save money, quality and performance is a little less but they both do the same job.

people are comparing brand new injectors versus injectors that generally are used or reconditioned, how is that a fair argument. that's like comparing a old used stock TII to a brand new Z06.

give the ID injectors 15 years of use or shelf time and we will see if they are still as reliable as the Densos/Bosch have been. i get a bit tired of people acting like they are the cure for all fuel issues. i simply prefer the ID injectors because of their sizing and newer style technology, but do i think they are more reliable at saving your engine? only partially for the reason i mentioned, because they are new.

 

^1++++++++++++++++++++ exactly.