Haltech Or The Power Fc?????
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Haltech Or The Power Fc?????
I'm gonna be running a T78 with 15+ pounds of boost on the street. Which standalone computer would you guys recommend, a haltech e6k or the power fc? Which will be easier to adjust and and tune? I heard that on the power fc, you can't run a 1600 secondary injector setup, is this right? and what is going to be a good injector size setup with me trying to make over 500 whp? Keep in mind that I'm also going to be pushing 50 shots of nos on the jump of my runs? Will my ported stock engine able to handle these demands? Please help!!!
Which shop in the Carson, Los Angeles area would you guys recommend? Any help will be greatly appreciated
Which shop in the Carson, Los Angeles area would you guys recommend? Any help will be greatly appreciated
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I've used both, and I think that the powerfc is best suited for a car with just basic bolt ons. Once you get into larger fuel, turbo, and boost the haltech is better. There is much more you can tune with the haltech, and datalogging is a must.
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I've got a t88 on a stock engine, and i went with the Apexi PFC. It has been good to me, I love her and one day we'll have children together. But seriuosly, Haltech's cool too, but you gotta butcher your cars wiring first to get it in and then have a lap top ready to tune it when ever you want. Then there's the OMP problem to get to. Premix all the time. You'll become another professional premix installer.
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Two questions on the Haltech,[list=1][*]Does installing the Haltech get rid of the computer bug on the engine flooding?[*]From the previous reply... If you go Haltech you can't use the electric oil metering pump in the 89 to 91 cars... is this correct?[*]If the previous is correct does that mean that the 88 rx7 with the mechanical oil pump is the way to go?[/list=1]
Thanks for the info guys, just curious.
Thanks for the info guys, just curious.
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the haltech eliminates all of the bullsh1t caused by the factory ecu, i didn't know how much i didn't miss the flooding until yesterday i saw a S4 T2 with factory ecu and it kept flooding on him hahaha.
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also, the haltech lets you control quite a few parameters that the apex doesn't. throttle tip in is a good example. with the haltech you can set the % increase of fuel duty cycle for throttle tip-in and the time period over which that decays back to the base fuel map values for 3 distinct rpm ranges. anyway, the haltech is the best ecu out there among those i know (haltech, motec, electromotive tecII, and apex), because of features, ease of use, datalogging, and user support. -gordon
It sounds like the Haltech is easier to transfer the data you want but I think if someone had the datalogit software for the PFC this would become easier also.
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Im selling my pfc...Im going motec.
the pfc has shitty support. expecially from xs engineering. They could blow your motor up with those uneducated guesses they call maps. if you just have the basic dp and catback stuff..its probably ok...but if you plan on doing anything over the basics then its too low level to do what is necessary to get a properly tuned machine.
the pfc has shitty support. expecially from xs engineering. They could blow your motor up with those uneducated guesses they call maps. if you just have the basic dp and catback stuff..its probably ok...but if you plan on doing anything over the basics then its too low level to do what is necessary to get a properly tuned machine.
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Gee, one of their uneducated guesses produced 365 rwhp at 14 psi boost on a stock port single turbo motor .
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They are both good ecu's, it basically is up to personal preference.
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They are both good ecu's, it basically is up to personal preference.
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i saw on www.k2rd.com that they have a plug and play harness for the rx7. how does this efect the install. meaning does an one have one... also what is this i hear about premix?
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ranzo: you say the pfc has "acceleration enrichment". does this function add a % fuel and then let you set the rate of decay separately? for each band?
I have never messed with Haltech or Motec. Only the Power FC. It is a very flexible system once you learn about it. I think part of the problem is that the PFC is from Japan and the Manual for it really sucks and does not explain things in relation to what effect certain settings would have on tuning. Japanes tuners won't reveal a whole lot of information either since tuning computers is where they make the most of thier money.
For me living in Japan I can't just go buy a haltech, Motec is readily availble but the cost is much more than a PFC This is the reason I chose a PFC. The PFC forum is a good forum with lots of information and support as well. I would say that The Power FC is the less flexible of the two ECU's but for the average Joe tuning his car the Power FC will do what you want without the hassle of a Laptop.
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Re: Haltech Or The Power Fc?????
Originally posted by rg42284
I'm gonna be running a T78 with 15+ pounds of boost on the street. Which standalone computer would you guys recommend, a haltech e6k or the power fc? Which will be easier to adjust and and tune? I heard that on the power fc, you can't run a 1600 secondary injector setup, is this right? and what is going to be a good injector size setup with me trying to make over 500 whp? Keep in mind that I'm also going to be pushing 50 shots of nos on the jump of my runs? Will my ported stock engine able to handle these demands? Please help!!!
Which shop in the Carson, Los Angeles area would you guys recommend? Any help will be greatly appreciated
I'm gonna be running a T78 with 15+ pounds of boost on the street. Which standalone computer would you guys recommend, a haltech e6k or the power fc? Which will be easier to adjust and and tune? I heard that on the power fc, you can't run a 1600 secondary injector setup, is this right? and what is going to be a good injector size setup with me trying to make over 500 whp? Keep in mind that I'm also going to be pushing 50 shots of nos on the jump of my runs? Will my ported stock engine able to handle these demands? Please help!!!
Which shop in the Carson, Los Angeles area would you guys recommend? Any help will be greatly appreciated
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Originally posted by VELCRO SHOES
That Tec3 is high dollar right?
That Tec3 is high dollar right?
The Tec3 comes with everything you need. Hell, Petah used it when he ran 9's, as does Ray Lochead who runs 8's. So you tell me what you think is better for your needs. When you spending this kind of money on a car you don't go for the cheapest thing on the self when it comes to engine mgmt. Hell if you really want to go all out get a Motec.
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I never got a chance to test out my TEC II too much, but I can tell you that the ignition is very powerful. I was able to start a SERIOUSLY flooded motor with it, without unflooding it.
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Originally posted by ErnieT
And figure another $1200 for a nice digital igniton.
And figure another $1200 for a nice digital igniton.
If we go with an all out ignition system, I got:
Digital-6/MSD 7AL leadings = ~$300
MSD DIS-2 trailings = ~$400
MSD HVC coils x4 @ ~$100/each = ~$400
Now this is an OVERKILL ignition system.  What does $1,200 for a "nice digitial ignition" mean in your case?
-Ted
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Originally posted by RETed
I'd like to know what exactly this means?
If we go with an all out ignition system, I got:
Digital-6/MSD 7AL leadings = ~$300
MSD DIS-2 trailings = ~$400
MSD HVC coils x4 @ ~$100/each = ~$400
Now this is an OVERKILL ignition system.  What does $1,200 for a "nice digitial ignition" mean in your case?
-Ted
I'd like to know what exactly this means?
If we go with an all out ignition system, I got:
Digital-6/MSD 7AL leadings = ~$300
MSD DIS-2 trailings = ~$400
MSD HVC coils x4 @ ~$100/each = ~$400
Now this is an OVERKILL ignition system.  What does $1,200 for a "nice digitial ignition" mean in your case?
-Ted