rg42284

I'm gonna be running a T78 with 15+ pounds of boost on the street. Which standalone computer would you guys recommend, a haltech e6k or the power fc? Which will be easier to adjust and and tune? I heard that on the power fc, you can't run a 1600 secondary injector setup, is this right? and what is going to be a good injector size setup with me trying to make over 500 whp? Keep in mind that I'm also going to be pushing 50 shots of nos on the jump of my runs? Will my ported stock engine able to handle these demands? Please help!!!

Which shop in the Carson, Los Angeles area would you guys recommend? Any help will be greatly appreciated

Poweraxel

go with a Haltech..

the power fc is nice but support is limited

94touring

I've used both, and I think that the powerfc is best suited for a car with just basic bolt ons. Once you get into larger fuel, turbo, and boost the haltech is better. There is much more you can tune with the haltech, and datalogging is a must.

m_snoby

Two questions on the Haltech,[list=1][*]Does installing the Haltech get rid of the computer bug on the engine flooding?[*]From the previous reply... If you go Haltech you can't use the electric oil metering pump in the 89 to 91 cars... is this correct?[*]If the previous is correct does that mean that the 88 rx7 with the mechanical oil pump is the way to go?[/list=1]

Thanks for the info guys, just curious.

fcturbo2

I would like to know also!..

HWO

the haltech eliminates all of the bullsh1t caused by the factory ecu, i didn't know how much i didn't miss the flooding until yesterday i saw a S4 T2 with factory ecu and it kept flooding on him hahaha.

Ranzo

Uh actually the Power FC does do this function, its called acceration enrichment and you can change the settings for 5 different RPM settings. from 1000RPM to 5000RPM.

It sounds like the Haltech is easier to transfer the data you want but I think if someone had the datalogit software for the PFC this would become easier also.

artguy

Im selling my pfc...Im going motec.

the pfc has shitty support. expecially from xs engineering. They could blow your motor up with those uneducated guesses they call maps. if you just have the basic dp and catback stuff..its probably ok...but if you plan on doing anything over the basics then its too low level to do what is necessary to get a properly tuned machine.

Jodeny

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Gee, one of their uneducated guesses produced 365 rwhp at 14 psi boost on a stock port single turbo motor .
John
They are both good ecu's, it basically is up to personal preference.

VELCRO SHOES

Gordon,I agree with you.It taked forever to enter maps cell by cell......It's annoying and makes my back hurt.

VELCRO SHOES

I have the power fc and it suxors.

kamikazeRyan

The Haltech E6k is the better choice for the set up your going to be running!!

Ryan

machinehead

So where is the best place to buy a Haltech? Best support etc.?

richjackson7

i saw on www.k2rd.com that they have a plug and play harness for the rx7. how does this efect the install. meaning does an one have one... also what is this i hear about premix?

Ranzo

Yes that is exactly correct. It has enrichment and a decay time for 5 points between 1000 and 5000 RPM.


I have never messed with Haltech or Motec. Only the Power FC. It is a very flexible system once you learn about it. I think part of the problem is that the PFC is from Japan and the Manual for it really sucks and does not explain things in relation to what effect certain settings would have on tuning. Japanes tuners won't reveal a whole lot of information either since tuning computers is where they make the most of thier money.

For me living in Japan I can't just go buy a haltech, Motec is readily availble but the cost is much more than a PFC This is the reason I chose a PFC. The PFC forum is a good forum with lots of information and support as well. I would say that The Power FC is the less flexible of the two ECU's but for the average Joe tuning his car the Power FC will do what you want without the hassle of a Laptop.

VELCRO SHOES

So,when buying the Haltec what all do you need to buy.What harness's/map sensors are needed for a smoother install?

Also,What's the going rate for this setup now?

ErnieT

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Since your in CA, you may want to consider the Electromotive Tec 3 as a viable option. Its everything the Haltech is and has its own ignition system with 3D mapping. And Ray Lochead is working on a plug and play version so you wont need to re-wire the car. Just plug in the stock location and your ready to tune. This will also help since you want to run NOS and 20plus lbs of boost.

Brad

Anyone else notice this thread was started like 10 months ago? And rg42284 hasn't posted since November...

Don't think he cares anymore

VELCRO SHOES

That Tec3 is high dollar right?

13BAce

It's not TOO bad, probably somewhere in the neighborhood of $2500.

ErnieT

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Its $2200, but the Haltech is about $1200 w/ terminated harness. And figure another $1200 for a nice digital igniton. I KNOW you don't think stock ignition is going to do it at 20plus lbs of boost and NOS.
The Tec3 comes with everything you need. Hell, Petah used it when he ran 9's, as does Ray Lochead who runs 8's. So you tell me what you think is better for your needs. When you spending this kind of money on a car you don't go for the cheapest thing on the self when it comes to engine mgmt. Hell if you really want to go all out get a Motec.

13BAce

I never got a chance to test out my TEC II too much, but I can tell you that the ignition is very powerful. I was able to start a SERIOUSLY flooded motor with it, without unflooding it.

RETed

I'd like to know what exactly this means?
If we go with an all out ignition system, I got:
Digital-6/MSD 7AL leadings = ~$300
MSD DIS-2 trailings = ~$400
MSD HVC coils x4 @ ~$100/each = ~$400
Now this is an OVERKILL ignition system.&nbsp What does $1,200 for a "nice digitial ignition" mean in your case?


-Ted

ErnieT

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Digital 6, Dis 2, and the HVC pro's= $1200.......Not saying you can't get it cheaper, but thats the price I got.