GTX3582R Out End of the Year
11-03-10 | 09:41 PM
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GTX3582R Out End of the Year
Looks like Garrett finally announced the GTX3582R at SEMA this year and they will be available for purchase by the end of the year. No compressor maps yet though. (at least I haven't found any yet). Will update when I they do or if anyone finds one, post it up.
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Garrett GTX-R Midframe Turbos
Garrett Turbo Selection Tool App
Dear Christopher,
It is the first week of November, and that can only mean one thing in the Automotive Performance Aftermarket: the SEMA Show. Over a million square feet of the Las Vegas Convention Center will be occupied by the world's largest car show while vendors from around the world will converge to showcase everything for these vehicles from fabrication equipment and crate engines to lightweight wheels and safety harnesses down to seat covers and air fresheners.
Hundreds of thousands of people will fill the halls, check out the wares and destroy the soles of their shoes.
Garrett by Honeywell is very excited about the 2010 SEMA Show! We have the all new GTX3071R and GTX3582R turbochargers to display for those seeking an increase in power but not an increase in packaging size. We will also be demonstrating our prototype Turbo Selection Tool for the iPhone, iPad and iPod.
And we will be showcasing a pair of cars this year which showcase the very different ways in which our turbochargers are used. The Apollo Performance Time Attack Subaru WRX STI makes no compromises in performance with a whopping GT4088R feeding its fully-built engine when it takes to the track. The Jasper Motorwerks Volkswagen GTI will display the more livable side of performance with a GT2871R and a full interior and all the luxuries of a daily driven street demon.
We would love to have the opportunity to meet you and talk about what Garrett Turbos can do for you. Please stop by our booth in the central Racing and Performance Hall; Booth #24713.
If you can't make it to the show, but have some feedback, we'd love to hear it at garrett.gearhead@honeywell.com.
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Garrett GTX-R Midframe Turbos Debuting
Following the success of the GTX42R and GTX45R, Garrett by Honeywell is proud to show, for the first time, the newest additions to the Garrett GTX family: The GTX3071R, GTX3076R and GTX3582R!
These new turbos are more than just another billet wheel. These are direct upgrades for the immensely popular GT series turbos of the same names, but with 10-20% more flow and more pressure ratio for more power than ever before. With the unique 11-full-blade compressor wheel is fully machined from forged aluminum alloy and uses next-generation aerodynamics to deliver unrivaled power while still being the dependable, quality product that you expect from Garrett.
These turbos are finishing the battery of Garrett Turbocharger tests and will be available by the end of the year through our Garrett Performance Distributors, Garrett Master Distributors and Garrett Performance Houses.
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Garrett by Honeywell Turbo Selection Tool App
Garrett by Honeywell is making the search for your next turbo even easier. While we have worked hard to provide a comprehensive matching tutorial with our Turbo Tech 103, we have also been working on making it simpler. At the 2010 SEMA Show, we will be showcasing our prototype iPhone, iPod and iPad Turbo Selection Tool to show goers.
This exciting tool allows for you to enter in the specifics of your engine, atmosphere, fuel type and more to zero in on the correct turbo for your application. The Turbo Selection Tool will narrow down your best choices for Garrett Turbochargers based on your goals and your parameters and plot engine RPM points on our compressor maps so you know where you will be operating.
Though just a prototype now, we will be soliciting feedback from SEMA Show attendees (Booth #24713) on any improvements we can make before we release it. We would love to hear your feedback and can go through a turbo match with you. Please stop by our booth for more information!
Garrett GTX-R Midframe Turbos
Garrett Turbo Selection Tool App
Dear Christopher,
It is the first week of November, and that can only mean one thing in the Automotive Performance Aftermarket: the SEMA Show. Over a million square feet of the Las Vegas Convention Center will be occupied by the world's largest car show while vendors from around the world will converge to showcase everything for these vehicles from fabrication equipment and crate engines to lightweight wheels and safety harnesses down to seat covers and air fresheners.
Hundreds of thousands of people will fill the halls, check out the wares and destroy the soles of their shoes.
Garrett by Honeywell is very excited about the 2010 SEMA Show! We have the all new GTX3071R and GTX3582R turbochargers to display for those seeking an increase in power but not an increase in packaging size. We will also be demonstrating our prototype Turbo Selection Tool for the iPhone, iPad and iPod.
And we will be showcasing a pair of cars this year which showcase the very different ways in which our turbochargers are used. The Apollo Performance Time Attack Subaru WRX STI makes no compromises in performance with a whopping GT4088R feeding its fully-built engine when it takes to the track. The Jasper Motorwerks Volkswagen GTI will display the more livable side of performance with a GT2871R and a full interior and all the luxuries of a daily driven street demon.
We would love to have the opportunity to meet you and talk about what Garrett Turbos can do for you. Please stop by our booth in the central Racing and Performance Hall; Booth #24713.
If you can't make it to the show, but have some feedback, we'd love to hear it at garrett.gearhead@honeywell.com.
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Garrett GTX-R Midframe Turbos Debuting
Following the success of the GTX42R and GTX45R, Garrett by Honeywell is proud to show, for the first time, the newest additions to the Garrett GTX family: The GTX3071R, GTX3076R and GTX3582R!
These new turbos are more than just another billet wheel. These are direct upgrades for the immensely popular GT series turbos of the same names, but with 10-20% more flow and more pressure ratio for more power than ever before. With the unique 11-full-blade compressor wheel is fully machined from forged aluminum alloy and uses next-generation aerodynamics to deliver unrivaled power while still being the dependable, quality product that you expect from Garrett.
These turbos are finishing the battery of Garrett Turbocharger tests and will be available by the end of the year through our Garrett Performance Distributors, Garrett Master Distributors and Garrett Performance Houses.
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Garrett by Honeywell Turbo Selection Tool App
Garrett by Honeywell is making the search for your next turbo even easier. While we have worked hard to provide a comprehensive matching tutorial with our Turbo Tech 103, we have also been working on making it simpler. At the 2010 SEMA Show, we will be showcasing our prototype iPhone, iPod and iPad Turbo Selection Tool to show goers.
This exciting tool allows for you to enter in the specifics of your engine, atmosphere, fuel type and more to zero in on the correct turbo for your application. The Turbo Selection Tool will narrow down your best choices for Garrett Turbochargers based on your goals and your parameters and plot engine RPM points on our compressor maps so you know where you will be operating.
Though just a prototype now, we will be soliciting feedback from SEMA Show attendees (Booth #24713) on any improvements we can make before we release it. We would love to hear your feedback and can go through a turbo match with you. Please stop by our booth for more information!
11-03-10 | 10:59 PM
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Looks like were going to have plenty of options for next season.
BW also made an announcement.
http://www.turbodriven.com/files/pdf...alog_SMALL.pdf
BW also made an announcement.
http://www.turbodriven.com/files/pdf...alog_SMALL.pdf
11-04-10 | 04:57 AM
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What I'd really like to see is a GTX-T04Z and then all will be well with the world
. Then again, in a perfect world we'd have variable geometry turbo's that could withstand sustained rotary heat under track conditions.thewird
11-04-10 | 12:31 PM
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It'll be interesting to see how the smaller ones perform. Most benefits from the new aero are higher P/r's something most rotary guys don't want to run on street or the track. If it holds true then the benefit I see is having a responsive street/circuit car that you can also turn the boost up at the strip.
Hopefully though it's just better efficiency all around.
~S~
Hopefully though it's just better efficiency all around.
~S~
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11-06-10 | 04:51 PM
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11-06-10 | 08:12 PM
#13
"BW isn't a 5 person shop that copies a Garrett compressor wheel, rescales it in CAM software so there's an infinite amount of trims available, hogs one out of aluminum bar stock on a CNC machine and then proceeds to stuff it into virtually any compressor housing without compressor or turbine mapping (let's not forget about giving these hogged out turbos nonsensical names while they were at it)."
11-07-10 | 10:32 AM
#14
^ Of course Precision did that. And BW scaled up designs from their OEM turbos for VW/Audi in order to come up with this EFR product. I doubt there are many professional engineers on this forum, but you have to realize that engineers rarely "invent" things. They copy and paste existing designs on top of each other, make a few tweaks, and sell/market it. That's how it's always worked. It's no different than when the Wright brothers modifed other people's designs to achieve powered flight.
What irritates me about Precision is that either they are too cheap to spend the money on compressor mapping OR ignorance is bliss to them, and they'd rather sell the proverbial 'sizzle' of the product and then let people's imagination determine what the 'steak' is.
What irritates me about Precision is that either they are too cheap to spend the money on compressor mapping OR ignorance is bliss to them, and they'd rather sell the proverbial 'sizzle' of the product and then let people's imagination determine what the 'steak' is.
11-07-10 | 02:22 PM
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The only problem with that article is Eric will be a bit biased as he is in bed with BW, not saying he is wrong or saying he is being misleading in anyway. But it is good he pointed out that they wont be cheap and there will be fitment issues.
~S~
~S~
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11-09-10 | 02:00 AM
#16
At the very least a good engineer is an excellent project manager (in some countries as much as farking president, instead of a stupid puppet) or a data interpreter. Myself I have less people skills and am much more switched on in interpreting and assessing the credibility of others tests, before I start my own designs.
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11-09-10 | 08:06 PM
#17
compressor maps now available: http://www.realstreetperformance.com...g2_itemId=1634
GTX3582R
older GT3582R:
overlap of the two:
T04Z map for comparison's sake:
the T04Z, being a 63 trim wheel, has a flatter efficiency range. It doesn't drop off so steeply compared to the GTX35, but it's also a bigger wheel in terms of nominal dimensions.
GTX3582R
older GT3582R:
overlap of the two:
T04Z map for comparison's sake:
the T04Z, being a 63 trim wheel, has a flatter efficiency range. It doesn't drop off so steeply compared to the GTX35, but it's also a bigger wheel in terms of nominal dimensions.
11-09-10 | 08:17 PM
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RealStreet on the NASIOC Subaru forums are listing these prices:
GTX3071R will be $1779
GTX3076R will be $1779
GTX3582R will be $2179
Supposedly if you have the older equivalent turbo (gt, not gtx) you will be able to keep the housings and just swap the cartridge to save money. It lists T3 turbine housing options, but turbine housing options may end up being the same between the older GT35 and the newer GTX product.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2084967
One thing to think about is that even if the newer compressors flow more, there could still be restrictions on the turbine side holding it back.
So here's another topic: could the new GTX3076 be a viable alternative to BNR twins or some other small single setup for 350ish highly responsive hp?
You'd think the spool would be nasty on this thing, for a single turbo conversion at least. It won't be good for those wanting highways monsters but it could be a great turbo for stock ports and road racing/autorcross applications. If you had a knock suppressant you could wind it to 20+ psi and have good low and mid range torque.
GTX3071R will be $1779
GTX3076R will be $1779
GTX3582R will be $2179
Supposedly if you have the older equivalent turbo (gt, not gtx) you will be able to keep the housings and just swap the cartridge to save money. It lists T3 turbine housing options, but turbine housing options may end up being the same between the older GT35 and the newer GTX product.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2084967
One thing to think about is that even if the newer compressors flow more, there could still be restrictions on the turbine side holding it back.
So here's another topic: could the new GTX3076 be a viable alternative to BNR twins or some other small single setup for 350ish highly responsive hp?
You'd think the spool would be nasty on this thing, for a single turbo conversion at least. It won't be good for those wanting highways monsters but it could be a great turbo for stock ports and road racing/autorcross applications. If you had a knock suppressant you could wind it to 20+ psi and have good low and mid range torque.
11-09-10 | 09:45 PM
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^ I'm not sure if that's MSRP or what. I can't see people paying more than $100-$200 more than a regular GT series turbo. And Garrett won't offer journal bearing for the more cost-conscious like Precision does.
11-10-10 | 04:24 AM
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Gonna get laughed at now, but a T4 split pulse 1.06 w/ 3" v-band GTX-3571R would make a lot of sense to me
25lb/min @ 1.5 turbine PR, 20lb/min @ 1.25 turbine PR, and a baby 70/71mm compressor wheel with a 60 trim ratio that flows near on 60 lb/min would be goddamn responsive.
11-10-10 | 10:35 AM
#22
It looks like the 3076 benefits the most on a initial glance. I wouldn't run more than 20psi on it though. though. The 35R only shows about a 2% improvement on efficiency at around 18psi however when you jump up to 22psi it shows a gain of 4% and about 5-6% more efficient at 25psi. It would seem you could run this turbo at 25psi without about the same efficiency as the old one at 18psi. Also you could effectively run 30psi and still be approximately 70% efficient so not too bad. It does show though that the improvements are as I have stated higher boost is where you will see the difference. Since most street and track FD's run 20psi or less you wont see much is my guess, unless you want to really wind it up.
~S~
~S~
11-10-10 | 01:08 PM
#23
this might be a stupid question....
the only difference between the GT35R and GTX35R is the compressor wheel, correct? so the compressor cover, back plate, chra, turbine, turbine housing is all the same?
so, effectively, i could just get a 35R, and at a later point if i decided, a gtx wheel could simply be put in, and i would have a gtx35r?
the only difference between the GT35R and GTX35R is the compressor wheel, correct? so the compressor cover, back plate, chra, turbine, turbine housing is all the same?
so, effectively, i could just get a 35R, and at a later point if i decided, a gtx wheel could simply be put in, and i would have a gtx35r?
11-10-10 | 02:27 PM
#24
Garrett wont sell just the wheel. I did get pricing on these as of yesterday when it was finalized. I won't post any pricing up but if interested PM me and I will get you a price.
~S~
~S~
11-10-10 | 03:55 PM
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this might be a stupid question....
the only difference between the GT35R and GTX35R is the compressor wheel, correct? so the compressor cover, back plate, chra, turbine, turbine housing is all the same?
so, effectively, i could just get a 35R, and at a later point if i decided, a gtx wheel could simply be put in, and i would have a gtx35r?
the only difference between the GT35R and GTX35R is the compressor wheel, correct? so the compressor cover, back plate, chra, turbine, turbine housing is all the same?
so, effectively, i could just get a 35R, and at a later point if i decided, a gtx wheel could simply be put in, and i would have a gtx35r?
