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Old 02-06-06 | 10:28 AM
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Connecting a Wideband to an AFR Gauge

I've done some searching and I gather that a wideband is comprised of the sensor and a controller. I see that most, if not everyone, has their wideband connected to their stand alone for dataloging purposes.

My question is this. Is it possible to buy a wideband and controller and connect it to say a Greddy A/F Gauge? What would be involved? How do I go about calibrating it?

I'm looking at the AEM Wideband Kit at the moment, but all of my other gauges are Greddy so if I can keep them all the same by just getting the AEM wideband controller and sensor and then connecting it to the Greddy gauge that would be great.

It would be installed in an FC with a single turbo upgrade running on a Haltech E6K.

Thanks for the help.

-Kenji
Old 02-06-06 | 12:23 PM
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Most if not all A/F gauges use a 0~1 volt range (their simply volt meters with LEDs). All you need is a 0~1 volt output from your wideband controller. Most newer ones have thisoutput. If not, a simple convert would work.

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Old 02-06-06 | 01:40 PM
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nope. your greddy gauges are narrowband. there is a possibility to connect it through a wideband setup that has a narrowband output for the cars ecu, but it would still read in narrowband. hince, its useless. i got the aem. it works well. looks good. ask yourself, show or go? i have 2 autometer temp gauges, a petit boost gauge and the aem eugo. it doesnt look bad at all. the aem comes with interchangable silver and black bezels, and white, silver or black faces. so you can taylor the look anyways. get the aem. accuracy is always better.
Old 02-06-06 | 04:49 PM
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Get the Innovate Motorsports XD-1 unit. You can design any color face you want for the gauge. The gauge also has the unique feature of being able to program the warning lite depending on boost, rpm, tps level etc. You can program the output so that with the right software for your E6-K you can datalog and read the A/F ratio in real time.
Old 02-06-06 | 10:35 PM
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You can also program one of the outputs on the Innovate WB to do 1 0-1v output to the existing gauge. I run that even when I am logging 0-5v into my laptop. Just because I had the gauge since '95 and I don't throw anything away.
Old 02-07-06 | 06:41 AM
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nope. your greddy gauges are narrowband. there is a possibility to connect it through a wideband setup that has a narrowband output for the cars ecu, but it would still read in narrowband. hince, its useless.
Uh, NO.
The GReddy uses an NTK wide-band 0-5v sensor.

So, to the original poster, if you insist on the GReddy AFR gauge, why not just run it's dedicated sensor???


-Ted
Old 02-07-06 | 12:06 PM
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I've been trying to learn a little more about the gauge before I actually buy it. I havn't been able to find much info on it. I wasn't sure if it came with a narrow band sensor or a wideband. I guess for $400 it better be a wideband eh?

If it does infact come with the a wideband sensor as you say RETed, I would assume that the gauge acts as a controller as well as a display similar to the AEM unit? Also, could you direct me to some info on this gauge, Greddy doesn't seem to be very forth comming and any online stores info is just a cut and paste from the Greddy web site.

You've given me hope RETed, I had hoped that it was a wideband unit and if it truely is then my problems are solved. Thanks for the help.

-Kenji

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Old 02-07-06 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
Uh, NO.
The GReddy uses an NTK wide-band 0-5v sensor.

So, to the original poster, if you insist on the GReddy AFR gauge, why not just run it's dedicated sensor???


-Ted
The hell they are!??! i owned one, they are 3 wire, NARROW BAND SENSORS! YOUR WRONG. unless they just started selling a wideband set up. and looking on their site, they still dont sell them! they are still the same narrow band as before. dont beleive me? call them.

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Old 02-07-06 | 08:30 PM
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I got a TECHEDGE wideband set up, uses an NTK L1H1 wide band sensor, just been calibrated
very accurate unit. ronbrothers@ gmail.com
Old 02-15-06 | 03:33 PM
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I'm confused, is the GReddy gauge narrow or wideband? I got an A/F warning gauge that keeps oscillating back and forth, pegged at 8 units when I accelerate, pegged at 18 units when I decellerate. Is this gauge useless? I got it attached to a bung, which is welded on the downpipe. How can I get accurate readings with the GReddy gauge? Or do I need to trash it and buy a new wideband?
Old 02-15-06 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FDarerex7
I'm confused, is the GReddy gauge narrow or wideband? I got an A/F warning gauge that keeps oscillating back and forth, pegged at 8 units when I accelerate, pegged at 18 units when I decellerate. Is this gauge useless? I got it attached to a bung, which is welded on the downpipe. How can I get accurate readings with the GReddy gauge? Or do I need to trash it and buy a new wideband?
that is a narrow band. they have 3 wire ntk narrowband sensors. thats why it moves around so much. basically its useless for a turbocharged car. it works ok for a high afr all motor car. id say sell it, its worth alot, and buy a wideband. the aem cost less than the greddy gauge anways. i got mine for about 280 shipped brand new.
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