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Old 07-04-05 | 07:18 PM
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can a PP13b single turbo make 1000hp?

could a PP 13b with a huge turbo like gt42r or a HKS t-51 on methanol make 1000hp???
Old 07-04-05 | 07:20 PM
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I highly doubt it. Well, not reliably at all I would think. Obviously im not an expert, so we'll wait for others to chime in.

To give you an idea, I saw a 20B PP single turbo in turbo and high tech performance, it was making like around 1000hp as far as I remember. I really think you need that extra 3rd rotor.
Old 07-04-05 | 07:23 PM
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here theres a new 3-rotor pp single turbo pushing about 1,300hp
Old 07-04-05 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluem
here theres a new 3-rotor pp single turbo pushing about 1,300hp
Which one, Confinado?

Last I heard about PP + turbo, was that it is an extremely hard combination to tune, some people say it not worth it.
Old 07-04-05 | 10:58 PM
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Old 07-05-05 | 12:01 AM
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^^^ That is rather tasty looking..
But kinda deflates when you consider AFR has a street driven fd with 850 rwhp on a 13b pport T51 . You would think all that hardware on the 13g would add up to more hp than that..Not to beat up on racing beat, but their project motors hp always seems a little low for all that exotic hardware and budget involved..Max
Old 07-05-05 | 03:06 AM
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I would think that the difference between AFR's engine and racing beats engine regardless of cost would be a much longer reliability maybe? not to sure, don't flame me
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^^^ That is rather tasty looking..
But kinda deflates when you consider AFR has a street driven fd with 850 rwhp on a 13b pport T51 . You would think all that hardware on the 13g would add up to more hp than that..Not to beat up on racing beat, but their project motors hp always seems a little low for all that exotic hardware and budget involved..Max
Old 07-05-05 | 08:09 AM
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ARF's is plated and street driven, told us he commutes to work in it when hes not dragging it..
Old 07-05-05 | 12:20 PM
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People have made 1000hp on two rotors, just not too sure about rear wheel.
Old 07-05-05 | 12:21 PM
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so the general rule would be that yes it's possible, but if you don't know exactly what you're doing it's going to be a poor idea.
Old 07-05-05 | 04:54 PM
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I've seen some dynos in the mid to high 800 rwhp.
Ken Schepers Rx-8 made high 800's on a Mustang dyno and 940 rwhp on a Dynojet and that's with a side port 13b motor.

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Old 07-05-05 | 05:33 PM
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imagine a custom pp 4-rotor with dual gt-42r or t-51!
Old 07-05-05 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
I've seen some dynos in the mid to high 800 rwhp.
Ken Schepers Rx-8 made high 800's on a Mustang dyno and 940 rwhp on a Dynojet and that's with a side port 13b motor.

Side port! Damn how much boost did that take to make that much?
Old 07-05-05 | 05:45 PM
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Side port! Damn how much boost did that take to make that much?
42 to 44psi!
Old 07-05-05 | 07:06 PM
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1000hp isnt impossible.
But the gt42r and the t51r are too small.
Two gt35rs on a pp 13b will make 1000hp or come very close to it.
Old 07-05-05 | 07:48 PM
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How much would I make with a semi-pp 13B a, Jaytech intake equipped and twin GT3071R's ?
Old 07-05-05 | 08:00 PM
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Which jaytech do you have.
No one can tell you exactly but on around 30psi 700hp is possible. your turbos are fairly small.
Old 07-05-05 | 10:29 PM
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I have the Holley styled ,5" 4 injector throttle body and the semi pp Cosmo manifold . "Fairly small" ? , each one flows 490lbs/ min , thats nough for 490 hp !
Old 07-05-05 | 11:43 PM
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490hp.. Um no.
They are not big turbos.
Anyway.
you will make 600rwhp. On 30psi i think.
Old 07-06-05 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
each one flows 490lbs/ min , thats nough for 490 hp !

not on a rotary though.
Old 07-06-05 | 12:39 AM
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600 whp is more than enough for me !!
Old 07-06-05 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rx72c
1000hp isnt impossible.
But the gt42r and the t51r are too small.
Two gt35rs on a pp 13b will make 1000hp or come very close to it.
Very Well Said... People don't realize what it takes to make serious power.
GT42 although looks big, it wont' make that kind of power(on a rotary)..
Good turbo for a street car though..

Two GT35 would do it but 1000hp at the rear wheels is not easy to make with two rotors but not impossible!!! 950 is the most i've ever heard of.
that's 475hp per rotor!!! That's Serious!
I'm sure someone will figure out how to get 500 per rotor.
I think PP Turbo w/ meth is the way to do it...
Old 07-06-05 | 09:18 AM
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WOW gt42 on a street car... that must be like cruising around town in a shifter kart
Old 07-06-05 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rx72c
1000hp isnt impossible.
But the gt42r and the t51r are too small.
Two gt35rs on a pp 13b will make 1000hp or come very close to it.
that would be somrething else
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