Iwan

G'day,

what is the best place to buy Turbonetics 62-1 turbo? Need turbo only, so not a kit!

would like to use P-trim with A/R 0.96
or
Q-Trim with A/R 0.84

Any advice / recommendation is much appriciated.

Thanks and REgards
Iwan

RacerXtreme7

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If you want a Turbonetics turbo, you'll need to get it from Turbonetics or Performance Techniques (Turbonetics dealer). As for other dealers, I'm not sure of their names. But in general, most Turbonetics dealers sell generic already built turbo's and won't build one to spec (such as JC Whitney, Jegs, SUMMIT etc), although I'm sure theres at least a couple I don't know about. If you looking for a 62-1, any Garrett dealer/retailer will be able to build you one (Turbonetics sells Garrett parts and many are rebadged as "Turbonetics" granted, they do sell their own proprietary wheels and housings as well as ball bearing CHRA's too amongst the Garrett parts).

Just a note, .96 A/R is non divided and .84 is a divided housing. Are you running a non divided or divided manifold? For best results, its best to match the turbine housing to the manifold (read: non divided mani, non divided turbine, divided mani, use a divided turbine). Your choices for non divided are .81, .96, (all others are way to large or too small { .68, .171}). For divided valute turbines you get .84, 1.00, 1.15 (.7 is too small and 1.32 is rather BIG).

~Mike.............

Iwan

HI Mike,

many thanks for info.

I have seen this turbo allready on few online shops, I know and some I did not known before. However, I seen the turbo I want for my applikation rated at about 1.500 USD.
The other option I'm looking at is the Garrett GT4088 turbo with A/R of 1.06 with devided housing. I'm using HKS manifold, so things looks OK to me. The A/R 1.06 is just right for my upcomming bridge-port engine, so this turbo should be OK to build some boost at 3.500RPM and have enogh reserve to get to 400 RWHP. Big plus on GT4088 is the price. I have seen this turbo offered betwenn 900 and 1000 USD which is 500 less then on 62-1.

I would prefere the 62-1 for "all-arround" sollution, but at the moment my budget come in play and I have to care about the costs. (covering full engine rebuild with things like RB stronger stationary gear or them from FD, new rotorhousing, exhaust system and and and...) So all in one will come to big $$$$ money.

REgards
Iwan

GUITARJUNKIE28

why a q trim for such a small compressor? it'll cost more money for the 62 to be fitted to the big shaft than it's worth.

RacerXtreme7

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Actually no. The 60-1 and 62-1 both come in big shaft and standard shaft sizes. No extra machining or cost (unless the retailer feels as though they couold get away with it), the extra cost would be simply from upgrading to a Q trim, and not having to do anything to the comp to get it to fit. But I agree, Q trim is a little big for a 62-1. For a bridge port, I'd just get a T04R from CHEAPTURBOS.com with a P-trim and 1.00 exhaust if all he wants is 400 rwhp. Should get that under 1 bar of boost and have ok spool (before 4000 RPM). A T04R however, can get away with running a Q-trim being its a decent sized compressor wheel. Could get away with a Q and .84 turbine.

~Mike............

GUITARJUNKIE28

oh excellent.

then the only argument is why a turbine that big for a compressor that small?

NeedFD

these guys have a reasonable price for turbos and they might be able to custom to your spec, give them a call/e-mail
http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gatu.html

ps How's Germany with all the world cup hosting? i bet there's a lot of outsiders visiting huh?

GUITARJUNKIE28

i can beat the cheapturbos price and i'm not even a retailer.

Iwan

Hello,
many thanks for your replays and your advice.

The T04R is a "no go" option to me at the moment, as my another FC is equiped with this turbo making 435PS (about 450HP) at the moment. The T04R is pretty laggy turbo, and I dont see full boost before 4500 RPM on street ported engine (Max boost is 21PSI at the moment)

The new turbo will go onto my daily driver, so a bridge- Port is an overkill for that allready, but if I gonna build a new engine, I would like to use all the potential I can get out of it. I was running a T04E HKS turbo on that car before, but due to CAS error my apex seal has gone and the turbo aswell. I was very happy with the throttle response from my T04E, and would accept slightly more lag, but not that much las as with T04R (or T66). Looking at the comp-maps of T4088, the car should start to make 15 PSI on a bridge- ported engine just after 3200 RPM or beeing in range of 20LB/min. The T04R compressor is still in surge limit range at 20LB/min.

@ NeedFD
I'm not into that sports as I like motorsport much more So I dont care about what is going on in Munich. I know, there is lots of police out there and many other security arround... I just know, that coz of world cup, the gas- prices are rising and thats what I dont like. We pay about 6.70 USD /gal for 95 octane at the moment, not realy cheap to build a bridge ported daily driver at the moment....

REgards
Iwan

NeedFD

oh man sorry to hear, damn foreigners!! jk jk

NeedFD

oh man sorry to hear, it just sounds fun being there during the world cup.

rarson

"Best place for Turbonetics"? The trash can.

Just my opinion. I'd put my money towards a Garrett.

C. Ludwig

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http://www.vecco.com/

I've bought a few things from these guys and have always had a good experience. They will put together custom Turbonetics orders. I just picked up a 62-1 w/ .96 P-trim for $749 shipped.

Iwan

Thanks C.Ludwig for advice.

I'm allready in contact with VECCO, got quotation for shipment yestarday:

signofinfinity

hmmm how come you get 1 bar at 4500. what porting? tuning? fuel? using 93 octane here the R boosts 1 bar by 3700....

any variable that wasnt considered? manifold design perhaps?

21 psi by 4500? then about 15 at 3500-3800 right? thats quite good IMO.right guys?

Regards
George

Ps.... it sure sucks being in germany with the world cup around... just came in from berlin.... there is some hassle there... let alone in munich.footbal aint my game though

GoodfellaFD3S

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What exactly happened with the CAS? I have never heard of an engine failing from this.....

C. Ludwig

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Sounds like a lot but turbos are f'n heavy.

Iwan

G'day,

the error is not the CAS themself, but the CAS wiring. My ECU was logging CAS errors at some points and when I was moving the CAS wires (before engine wiring loom, the 4 wires coming from CAS /green /red /black /black), the engine was stalling or turned off.

REgards
Iwan

Howard Coleman

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Majestic Turbo is a Turbonetics dealer. i have worked w Kevin Draper @ Majestic since '99 and suggest you contact him.

800 231 5666 or 254 757 3759 waco texas. check them out on the web.

he will build you what you want, offers excellent advice and is reasonable re pricing.

good luck,

howard coleman

GoodfellaFD3S

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I used to drive through Waco on my travels between Fort Hood and Fort Worth.....lots of good bars and nubile big-chested college girls there

Iwan

removed my engine / Turbo at the weekend. My turbo looks pretty good, with no damage to the exhaus wheel. I will keep my Turbo and do not need to go for another one,

Many thanks to you all for your advice.

Thanks and REgards
Iwan

dubulup

did you actually remove the turbine housing and inspect the wheel or just look into the back of the turbo?

Iwan

I have removed the turbine housing and inspected the wheel. Everything is fine, so has had much luck with my turbo. Lost my seal on rear rotor, destroyed my rotor and housing, but sideplates are fine. So will take a spare low comp rotor two new housings and here we go. Just not sure what port to run.

like the sound of bridge port, dont like low vac on it and this is to big for T04E, but much options for the future.

street port will take the 13BT in FD power- output range. So, 380hp with decent I/C should be OK......

REgards
Iwan