Apexi Turbo Kit Price Hike!
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Apexi Turbo Kit Price Hike!
On October 1st Apexi is raising the retail price of their turbo kit for the FD from $4500 to $5699. Probably one of the dumbest moves ever, but whatever. That means that most places will sell that kit for around $4k. They just priced themselves right out of the market.
If you want a kit before this jump let me know.
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If you want a kit before this jump let me know.
jbaughman@columbus.rr.com
Jason
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Sorry Jason, but I have to jump on this.
You could buy mine for much cheaper yet and it has all the good stuff like ceramic coating, and a polished comp. housing, an upgraded wastegate. Pm Me if interested.
Now I will just have to buy more stuff from Jason again.
You could buy mine for much cheaper yet and it has all the good stuff like ceramic coating, and a polished comp. housing, an upgraded wastegate. Pm Me if interested.
Now I will just have to buy more stuff from Jason again.
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Originally posted by the_glass_man
Maybe this is for the newer, bigger kit??? Maybe the one with the airpump?
Wow, I sure hope this isn't true unless this thing makes 600 whp and full boost at 3k rpm.
This is pretty stupid.
Maybe this is for the newer, bigger kit??? Maybe the one with the airpump?
Wow, I sure hope this isn't true unless this thing makes 600 whp and full boost at 3k rpm.
This is pretty stupid.
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I got mine from Tony 4 months ago and it allows me to retain the airpump (provided I wanted to keep the cat, HA!)
as far as the price hike is concerned, is this the same exact kit as the RX6A? or is it the RX6B or the new apex'i turbo in japan? It would seem to be a stupid move considering there are so many competitors out there making stuff just as good for cheaper, you'd think that they'd lower the price
as far as the price hike is concerned, is this the same exact kit as the RX6A? or is it the RX6B or the new apex'i turbo in japan? It would seem to be a stupid move considering there are so many competitors out there making stuff just as good for cheaper, you'd think that they'd lower the price
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Originally posted by the_glass_man
Maybe this is for the newer, bigger kit??? Maybe the one with the airpump?
Wow, I sure hope this isn't true unless this thing makes 600 whp and full boost at 3k rpm.
This is pretty stupid.
Maybe this is for the newer, bigger kit??? Maybe the one with the airpump?
Wow, I sure hope this isn't true unless this thing makes 600 whp and full boost at 3k rpm.
This is pretty stupid.
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There is a new turbo kit from Apexi but that retails for $6299. I heard that was water cooled, but not sure the size of the turbo. Im guessing bigger than the current one.
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Originally posted by Jason
There is a new turbo kit from Apexi but that retails for $6299. I heard that was water cooled, but not sure the size of the turbo. Im guessing bigger than the current one.
Jason
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There is a new turbo kit from Apexi but that retails for $6299. I heard that was water cooled, but not sure the size of the turbo. Im guessing bigger than the current one.
Jason
www.rx7store.net
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Cool, that means that since I bought my kit for $3200 straight from apexi a year and a half ago, that I can sell it for $3200 used when they jack up the price....sweet!!
Anybody who pays $5700 for that kit is out of their damn mind.
Anybody who pays $5700 for that kit is out of their damn mind.
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Originally posted by 20B Junkie
Shitty turbo anyways. IMO.
Shitty turbo anyways. IMO.
And you base this opinion on what? Could it be the fact that this turbo is quite capable of outliving your car?...the fact that it spools up quickly and is extremely efficient for its size?... the fact that 400 RWHP is easily available?..... the fact that IHI made virtually identical units for the race circuit and it has consistently demonstrated its inherant design dependability?... So just what is it exactly that you base this opinion on?????
Please don't give me the old song and dance about how the RX6 turbo is not rebuildable in the event of catastrophic engine failure.....at the risk of sounding like a broken record.......NO ball bearing center section turbo is rebuildable in the classic sense of being able to replace the bearings....
So please let me know why this turbo is, in your opinion, a POS, otherwise, unless you want to run the risk of being seen as a post *****, you may want to keep these unbacked opinions to yourself.
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Originally posted by 20B Junkie
Shitty turbo anyways. IMO.
Shitty turbo anyways. IMO.
Expensive to rebuild, yes. Capable of 450rwhp, no. Excellent turbo for the street, great response and decent power, by no means is it shitty.
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Please don't give me the old song and dance about how the RX6 turbo is not rebuildable in the event of catastrophic engine failure.....at the risk of sounding like a broken record.......NO ball bearing center section turbo is rebuildable in the classic sense of being able to replace the bearings.....
Please don't give me the old song and dance about how the RX6 turbo is not rebuildable in the event of catastrophic engine failure.....at the risk of sounding like a broken record.......NO ball bearing center section turbo is rebuildable in the classic sense of being able to replace the bearings.....
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Originally posted by pomanferrari
Not to get off topic here as I'm new to single turbo (don't have one YET). The Apexi RX6 is not ball bearing right? And the ball bearing Garrets like GT35/40 are not rebuildable? But I thought the advantage of the Garrets is to get rebuilds in the U.S. instead of ordering from Apexi in Japan?
Not to get off topic here as I'm new to single turbo (don't have one YET). The Apexi RX6 is not ball bearing right? And the ball bearing Garrets like GT35/40 are not rebuildable? But I thought the advantage of the Garrets is to get rebuilds in the U.S. instead of ordering from Apexi in Japan?
The ball bearing Garretts also require a replacement of the entire center section for a rebuild but, Garrett is expected to make those sections available soon for rebuild purposes. Because production of the Garretts is behind, all the center sections produced go into new units for sale and are not yet available. When they do become available they are likely to be a rather large percentge of the total cost of a new unit.
Hope that clears this up for you
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I heard that the new apex'i kit (with the price hike) is going to receive a better wastegate and some minor changes...
still doesn't justify that high of an increase though
still doesn't justify that high of an increase though
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Talked to The APEXi rep and they said the new kit (read $6299) comes with a large turbo of their new AX series turbos. They claim that it can flow 550hp worth and it is also BB. The standard kit will remain the same.
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Originally posted by jeff48
Really??????
And you base this opinion on what? Could it be the fact that this turbo is quite capable of outliving your car?...the fact that it spools up quickly and is extremely efficient for its size?... the fact that 400 RWHP is easily available?..... the fact that IHI made virtually identical units for the race circuit and it has consistently demonstrated its inherant design dependability?... So just what is it exactly that you base this opinion on?????
Please don't give me the old song and dance about how the RX6 turbo is not rebuildable in the event of catastrophic engine failure.....at the risk of sounding like a broken record.......NO ball bearing center section turbo is rebuildable in the classic sense of being able to replace the bearings....
So please let me know why this turbo is, in your opinion, a POS, otherwise, unless you want to run the risk of being seen as a post *****, you may want to keep these unbacked opinions to yourself.
Really??????
And you base this opinion on what? Could it be the fact that this turbo is quite capable of outliving your car?...the fact that it spools up quickly and is extremely efficient for its size?... the fact that 400 RWHP is easily available?..... the fact that IHI made virtually identical units for the race circuit and it has consistently demonstrated its inherant design dependability?... So just what is it exactly that you base this opinion on?????
Please don't give me the old song and dance about how the RX6 turbo is not rebuildable in the event of catastrophic engine failure.....at the risk of sounding like a broken record.......NO ball bearing center section turbo is rebuildable in the classic sense of being able to replace the bearings....
So please let me know why this turbo is, in your opinion, a POS, otherwise, unless you want to run the risk of being seen as a post *****, you may want to keep these unbacked opinions to yourself.
I'd never buy this turbo. If i was going to upgrade the stock twins I'd get GT35/40 w/ B or BB. Or something even bigger, eg. T51R Kai BB.
All im trying to say is for the money and the performance you'll be getting out of the RX6 you might as well as get something else.
This is how i see it. Sorry if you don't like it. Plus im only some 16 year old, who doesn't know anything
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Originally posted by 20B Junkie
I just dont think its all that great, plus the price. 400RWHP? So what, stock twins come close to that, Rikki did 365@11psi. So this 5.7k turbo will only add 35 more RWHP as compared to the stock twins I'd get GT35/40 w/ B or BB. Or something even bigger, eg. T51R Kai BB.
All im trying to say is for the money and the performance you'll be getting out of the RX6 you might as well as get something else.
This is how i see it. Sorry if you don't like it. Plus im only some 16 year old, who doesn't know anything
I just dont think its all that great, plus the price. 400RWHP? So what, stock twins come close to that, Rikki did 365@11psi. So this 5.7k turbo will only add 35 more RWHP as compared to the stock twins I'd get GT35/40 w/ B or BB. Or something even bigger, eg. T51R Kai BB.
All im trying to say is for the money and the performance you'll be getting out of the RX6 you might as well as get something else.
This is how i see it. Sorry if you don't like it. Plus im only some 16 year old, who doesn't know anything
Nice response kid!! Spoken like you have a brain in your head instead of a half witted idiot who knows how to swear. For a ton of reasons including dollars, compatibility, longevity of the parts, tolerances, design characteristics and temperature dissapation, I don't necessarily agree with your position, but it is well reasoned and gives others a chance to form their own opinions based on your informed view of the facts. Once again, nice job, well said and good reasoning, even if you are only 16, you got my respect and I'm 54 and been messing with high performance cars since I was 16.
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Wow, what a pleasant thread! What could have so easily turned into a flame war was handled very respectably! My compliments....
I should be getting my car back with the RX6 installed tomorrow. I can hardly wait!!! My reasoning for choosing the Apexi was that my stockers were near the end of their life, and with the old RX6 kit on clearance (presumably to make way for the new one) it wasn't much more expensive than replacing the stock twins. Plus, even though the twins _could_ make 360 or so, they're way out of their efficiency range and you're wearing them out (not to mention the extra heat and rats nest). The RX6 shouldn't even break a sweat for the same power. Another thing to consider is that raw max-horsepower numbers don't always tell the whole story. For street driving and autocrossing, I want a turbo that spools quickly and provides a wide powerband, which is where the RX6 will deliver, from all I've heard and read.
Plus I can keep my air pump so the local enviro-***** shouldn't be able to condemn my car to track use only......
I just wish I didn't have to listen to the rebuild sob story from everyone that finds out which turbo I chose!
I should be getting my car back with the RX6 installed tomorrow. I can hardly wait!!! My reasoning for choosing the Apexi was that my stockers were near the end of their life, and with the old RX6 kit on clearance (presumably to make way for the new one) it wasn't much more expensive than replacing the stock twins. Plus, even though the twins _could_ make 360 or so, they're way out of their efficiency range and you're wearing them out (not to mention the extra heat and rats nest). The RX6 shouldn't even break a sweat for the same power. Another thing to consider is that raw max-horsepower numbers don't always tell the whole story. For street driving and autocrossing, I want a turbo that spools quickly and provides a wide powerband, which is where the RX6 will deliver, from all I've heard and read.
Plus I can keep my air pump so the local enviro-***** shouldn't be able to condemn my car to track use only......
I just wish I didn't have to listen to the rebuild sob story from everyone that finds out which turbo I chose!
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Nice response kid!! Spoken like you have a brain in your head instead of a half witted idiot who knows how to swear. For a ton of reasons including dollars, compatibility, longevity of the parts, tolerances, design characteristics and temperature dissapation, I don't necessarily agree with your position, but it is well reasoned and gives others a chance to form their own opinions based on your informed view of the facts. Once again, nice job, well said and good reasoning, even if you are only 16, you got my respect and I'm 54 and been messing with high performance cars since I was 16.
Nice response kid!! Spoken like you have a brain in your head instead of a half witted idiot who knows how to swear. For a ton of reasons including dollars, compatibility, longevity of the parts, tolerances, design characteristics and temperature dissapation, I don't necessarily agree with your position, but it is well reasoned and gives others a chance to form their own opinions based on your informed view of the facts. Once again, nice job, well said and good reasoning, even if you are only 16, you got my respect and I'm 54 and been messing with high performance cars since I was 16.
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The more I hear about the RX6's broad powerband and quick spool, the more I like it. How limited is it really though?
Also, let's hear it for informed young people, you make us look good!
Also, let's hear it for informed young people, you make us look good!
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Nice response kid!! Spoken like you have a brain in your head instead of a half witted idiot who knows how to swear. For a ton of reasons including dollars, compatibility, longevity of the parts, tolerances, design characteristics and temperature dissapation, I don't necessarily agree with your position, but it is well reasoned and gives others a chance to form their own opinions based on your informed view of the facts. Once again, nice job, well said and good reasoning, even if you are only 16, you got my respect and I'm 54 and been messing with high performance cars since I was 16.
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All right! I'm officially a member of the RX6 club! Picked up the car last night and drove around for several hours trying to get some miles on it. I'm still breaking everything in so boost is at 9 and I'm keeping it below 4000, but my initial impressions are holy crap this thing's loud! Lots of new noises to get used to, from the cha-cha-cha-cha of the BOV, to the Three Stooges WHOOP-whoop-whoop-whoop Curly-style, the added noise of the dump tube, to the cool jet-engine-spinning-down sound when you turn off the car..........this thing really announces that it's in there!
Absolutely nothing seemes to be lost from the low-end over my old twins. This thing feels quicker at 3000 at 9psi than I remember the twins being at 13.
I think I'm going to like! Off to MADS (or MDFE) in just a few more hours!
Absolutely nothing seemes to be lost from the low-end over my old twins. This thing feels quicker at 3000 at 9psi than I remember the twins being at 13.
I think I'm going to like! Off to MADS (or MDFE) in just a few more hours!
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Originally posted by TailHappy
Lots of new noises to get used to, from the cha-cha-cha-cha of the BOV, to the Three Stooges WHOOP-whoop-whoop-whoop Curly-style, the added noise of the dump tube, to the cool jet-engine-spinning-down sound when you turn off the car..........this thing really announces that it's in there!
Lots of new noises to get used to, from the cha-cha-cha-cha of the BOV, to the Three Stooges WHOOP-whoop-whoop-whoop Curly-style, the added noise of the dump tube, to the cool jet-engine-spinning-down sound when you turn off the car..........this thing really announces that it's in there!
20B Junkie: Keep in mind that when you pick out a turbo (or do any other work for that matter), there are compromises you will have to make, and you simply can not look at the final numbers.
A T88 paired with a well sorted engine will make insane hp, but unless you have nitrous to prespool, you're going to be playing tiddly-winks waiting for boost to join the party. Such a car would be useful for 1/4 mile use only, and would likely get creamed by just about anything in stop light/street driving.
Point is, there are much more to look for then peak hp numbers, and every individual will have a different requirement. While a street driven vehicle or one that is used for auto-x/etc will be better off with something like a Apexi RX6, a 1/4 mile queen would see better results with a large turbo, like the T88/etc.
Decide what use your car will be under most of the time, and pick a turbo to suit accordingly - don't just look at peak numbers.