Damian, sorry to ask this, since your dyno sheet doesn't show RPMs, where exactly do you hit full boost with the 500r?

 

Actualy, the bottom part i added in does show RPM and boost level.
Just look at the graphs at the bottom and you can see it.

 

Working on installing an 500r kit for a friend of mine.

Were sent the wrong fitting for the oil feed, threads into my 6an ss oil feed line but will not thread into the turbo itself..

Thats been a huge pain...

Haven't been able to get through either to resolve the problem...

So far imo this "kit" is far from complete.

 

I apologize if you may have received the wrong fitting in error. We would be more than willing to help resolve any issues you may be having.

PM sent

 

LOL!, how true, that is why I go out of my way to make sure they come pretty much pre-assembled whenever I can.





siadam, I'm not going to ruin Damians thread, but how is it "far from complete" ???? Seems he and Goodfellas both are more than happy with what they received as far as kit and service. Please respond via PM as I do not want Damians thread going off track.

-S-

 

Obviously some of that is just frustration, but there is some portion of truth there. I think he's saying that if you get the kit and expect every nut and bolt and bracket etc. etc. to line up perfectly, you're probably going to be disappointed. Damian said some of the same things in this thread about the oil return line from the kit that didn't work with his setup. I was there trying to help him get something to fit when he installed the kit so I know the issues. The oil feed line didn't work as expected either, and the coolant lines were not ideal. He mentioned the wastegate ended up hitting the subframe a little too.

Look at Crispy's site and you'll see the same thing. He had a bunch of stuff he added/modified on his kit to make it the way he wants it.

All that said, I'm absolutely not beating up A-Spec. (Other companies have these issues and more) I have the shorty 35R kit, and I recommended that Damian go with 500R. I like the performance alot. I think that they work really well. I do know that everyone's setup is different, and everyone's taste is different, so some of the parts will not be acceptable to some people, and some of them won't fit a particular car for whatever reason.

It would certainly help if there was some sort of instructions/parts list developed that came with the kit to explain which parts are supposed to go where, and what order things need to go together etc. I know that would have helped me alot when I put my setup together. Since we know that different cars may go together different ways it would be cool to see the options for particular lines/fittings listed too. If additional parts are required those could be listed as well.

The bottom line for this is, buy the kits, and expect that there might be a few changes to get them to fit your car, and fit your taste.

Also, someone asked about the intake setup for the higher mount 500R kit and the ASP style ICs. We have at least 3 different ways that this works now, so noone should let that stop them from getting either part! I will have some pics up of that at some point when I have a chance to get something together.

 

I recently installed the GT35R long runner kit which is very similar. I too had to custom make an oil drain line as there was no way I could get the supplied hose to fit. My wastegate also hit the crossmember very badly and the downpipe would not line up flush with the turbo. To the credit of A-Spec they did return my call and ask me to send them pictures to try to address the problem but I was simply running out of time and just had an exhaust shop modify the downpipe. I still have a bad exhaust leak at the turbo/downpipe V-Band connector. Hopefully I will have that resolved soon.

As GooRoo stated above, modifications and a bit of fussing around are to be expected with most aftermarket single turbo conversion kits so I wasn't too surprised to have some issues.

I hope that I have excellent performance once it's all straightened out as most other road racers who use the A-spec turbos do.

I was able to use the ASP/M2 large stock mount intercooler without a problem and was able to fashion a decent intake. I'll post some pics in another thread once everything is done and I have track tested and dynoed the car.

 

Read what GooRoo stated above, as that is what I would have replied with as well.

 

I need to know what issues people are having with the drain? I have fit more than enough of the new braided drains to know they fit. I'm not sure why I now have two people saying they aren't. I will admit the WG is close to the frame rail and it is a pain to get on that is for sure. I actually am working on getting a decent set of instructions together, and usually I am pretty available to walk people through issues, as I am very aware it can be a daunting thing when you haven't done it.
As for the water lines not being ideal It seems I can not cover this enough. They are water lines with steel parker fluid fittings, there is no other easy solution that can get 90% of the people up and running. No kit is going to be a answer all issues solution and everyone has to consider A) person doing the installs capability and B)persons taste. The kit is designed to get you the biggest issues resolved. And not trying to brag or be arrogant but compared to the greddy or HKS stuff from years ago it will outperform outlast and offer better customer support by far. As does some of the other stuff made by shops here stateside. Here is what I will do I would like Damian, GooRoo, Goodfellas, Crispy, magnuson etc. To come post in a thread I will start in our section, this thread will be specifically designed to address the issues that effect what you guys at the track think needs to be addressed. I will say I already have a list myself. I don't mind making the kits for everyone but I do take some pride in the fact that most of the actual serious trackrats on here run our stuff.

-S-

 

Just a little frustrated I guess b/c he also bought a fuel rail "kit" that was purchased, had to run all around town to find fittings for it...

Called again today, Ryan was helpful in answering my questions and such...could be a possible goof on my part. I may not have gotten all the "kit". So once I double check on what was given to me..I can work on getting it assembled.

If this gets resolved quickly...I will be more than happy to edit my threads..

 

Or you could go with the gold stuff and be pimp'n even more. Nice setup Damian.



[QUOTE=damian;6931412]>>I love that you used the heat barrier on the strut tower wall. I did that also, yet everyone made fun of me

Dood, shiny aluminum stuff everywhere, why not do it!! :-) The haters are just jelous anyway ;-)

Actualy, I do take that area seriously, I need to keep heat away from the shock on that side.

 

That looks like the GZ Lim, last i checked it won't fit the factory twins. CJ

 

I'm not using an A-Spec Manifold, so my turbo sits in a different location...but I was able to fit the SS drain line. It was a very close fit...just needed to figure out what order to assemble/install. Worked best for me to install the line on the flanges then flanges to the block/turbo.

 

+1 on that.... Aspec makes great kits, great customer service (that ive seen), although i have heard quite a few things about the lines and fittings... which arent too big of an issue... and im glad theyre working on it, but i would imagine the hassle of finding new lines and fittings that fit and what not.

Looking forward to some of the revisions in your kits Sean.

 

Just barely with a lot of touching of the LIM/Turbo heat shield. Had to bend both water and oil lines to fit. Temporary setup though.

 

I had to shave down the compressor on the turbo b/c it was hitting the factory lower intake manifold...??

Then of course the lines..

Just not pleased w/the fact a kit comes with rubber lines..

It should be a/n and ss lines for everything...

Oil feed/return and coolant.

Then to top it off..first time I fired it up...oil started spitting out the compressor outlet..

Had to buy an oil restrictor to reduce down the oil pressure...not sure what that was about..

I have messed w/alot of kits..and this is by far the worst experience I have had from Honda's to Evo's.

 

It comes with braided oil lines as of the beginning of this year, and for the LAST TIME!! I cannot include stainless coolant lines, anyone with some sense of how a FD water pump is understands if I included braided lines you would have to modify the water pump assembly. I would then have guys like you calling in or posting up that this kit sucks because they now have to either weld or tap the WP housing. The kit comes with coolent hose for... are you ready.... coolant!! It uses Parker steel fluid fittings, I choose steel fittings so I dont need to hear how people ruined(cross thread/stripped) their aluminum ones. I do remember the conversation with you about us sending the wrong fittings and you were trying to fit the blue block fitting, in the turbo hence not fitting properly. The kit comes with a .70 restrictor. I can only assume by the fact that you were so far off with what you were attempting to do when you called that god knows what else may have become a issue since then. I am sorry if I sound pissy BUT when we talked on the phone you were far from knowing what was going on what or where it went, and I get real tired real quick of user error being blamed for the kit itself. We are always willing to go over everything and anything over the phone and through email as well as email out instructions. We never heard anything from you except in here. AND WE IMMEDIATELY MADE CONTACT ONCE WE DID. If you wish to carry this further PM me but I would prefer you not coming on here trashing a thread and our shop because of what was more than obvious on the phone as a lack of understanding on your part as to what you were installing. I am not bashing you just getting the other half out there.


-S-

 

this is clear he doesn't have a clue

 

Stick to Hondas buddy.....If you are so pissy now why didnt you ask when you purchased the kit...DONT ASSUME!

 

I didn't purchase the kit nor am I bashing the shop. Never received any sort of instructions either.

I don't see how it could be user error as you state when I bolted the turbo to the manifold and it hits the lower intake manifold and the turbo spits oil? You built the manifold and had the turbo apart, not I. Mistakes happen, this I understand, and god knows I have made my fair share. I have seen alot of "kits" and this is one I believe leaves a little bit to be desired.

Car ran great, except the fact the original single turbo was to big and it was rather laggy. So he bought this kit to increase his powerband and make a little more usuable power.

I beleive you should make a How-To of installing this kit detailing each step to eliminate the "user error" as you like to point out. Would help deter alot of errand posting.

I can take pictures to show, but I don't care how close the rubber lines are to the hot side of the turbo. Seems the heat will quickly destroy the lines. Also as the original poster pointed out, he bought and adapted ss lines and fittings for his oil return, something I beleive the kit should come included with. B/c I have seen rubber lines break/crack from the abuse.

Just my .02 cents.

I am sure this is a nice setup for rx7's and from the dyno's makes great power, this I have no doubts. Just getting to that point is somewhat taxing when you think you should have all the parts on hand.

Again, not bashing you or the shop, as once I finally got through you did answer a few of my questions, just giving you constructive criticism to better your product.

Nothing personal.

 

I had major fitment issues with my Aspec kit as well, and other issues that I will not go into detail about from a customer service standpoint. When the kit finally fit in an acceptable manner (although still not great frame rail clearance). I sold it and went with something else. The current owner of the kit is very satisfied as I knew they would be, because they didn't have to deal with all the initial issues and customer service.

 

Totally understand.

 

Congrats Damian!

That car must be a blast to drive at that power/weight level

 

this is really crazy because I thought my kit (installed by twokrx7) was like the only one with those PIA issues of coolant lines and what not. He also said that the dp and wastegate wast really a bitch to get aligned properly (had to really force and move some stuff around). Do ya'll think we should make a thread, not bashing-but to help, Sean with their kits to make them just a tad bit easier?

I'm not saying the kit is bad, far from it. Just some of the accessories are a PIA and would be especially hard for someone who was installing their first single turbo.

 

>>Do ya'll think we should make a thread, not bashing-but to help, Sean with their kits to make them just a tad bit easier?


DmoneyRX-7, you missed the boat on this one, there has already been many posts/threads on it and Aspec already made new fittings and lines for the oil/coolant.