Thanks, Aaron. No need to apologize for studying hard: you only get one shot at finals and there is plenty of time to sleep/party/recover/work on cars the week after.

i have the yawpower 1000cc injectors in the primary spot, idel is fine and i dont experience any loops, hickups, or anything bad with them. i just got the car tuned and everything is good.

Here's a link to some of the Honda guys using them and their experience. http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread...00cc+injectors

I'm in...
 

So stinkin' close to firing her up after a 20 months of downtime... can't wait to see how the Yaw Power injector run on moonshine.... er, I mean E85!

Nice and clean, welcome home Carlos :icon_tup:

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...7&d=1230710126

Updates? New opinions? I need to buy something this week!!!

Call glen at AZRR, he can sell you the yaw 1000's and get you more details about them.

The bosch 1000cc injectors are the best you'll ever get for 1000cc...

Unfortunately Bosch only makes the 1000cc's in the newer "mini" design. Do you think I should make new brakets to make up for the sorter distance and run them in the rails? I'm still stuck between PTE's and RC's...

same. havent put them in yet but they have pretty decent prices

The shorter bosch 1000's will probably come with top hat adapters to make them the exact same dimension as any standard full length 60mm injector. Just ask about them from whoever you purchase from. Also there are electrical adapters to make the US-car connector go to a standard bosch square plug so you don't need to rewire anything if already running that type..

I wish they would come out with a high impedance 1680cc injector... That would solf all our problems!

There are adapters for the "mini" bosch to make them fit into normal bosch setups.

you can also run them with higher fuel pressure and they will flow more...
or just use more 1000cc injectors...

they still havent "come out with" a saturated 1000cc yet.


Funny you should mention the 160lb high, I should have that solved and available very shortly. email me for details as I dont want to jump the gun to much. ;)

They sure did... They have them now....

again, no, they are much smaller injector that was modified, so that is why I say they have not "come out with" one yet. A fair/safe statement would be there is a high 1000cc "available". (The place selling them admitted in this thread that they a modified injector.)

ok... There is an "avaliable" 1000cc sat inj made by bosch..

I would exactly say it's a modified injector though?.
There's an alum adapter to make it fit the correct length/oring size of our injectors..
That's really a modification?

Nowadays most new injectors are going to be smaller and shorter then what were used to..

No, not the hight. When I said "smaller" I didnt mean in physical size, but in flow. They are modified to FLOW 1000cc.

Here is some more info on the 1000's.. www.injectordynamics.com

the yawpowers flow/response look to be exceptionally linear (according to their website). Wouldn't this make tuning easier?

Exactly. That is one of the reasons these injectors have been getting such great response from the honda crowd. I can't begin to express how much easier it was to tune the transition on my car when I put ID 1000's in the secondaries. Plus I've heard of a couple guys swapping their stock civic injectors out for these and idle is just as good..

How much whp can you support with 550cc primaries and 1000cc secundaries? Or do you guys run other primaries?

i use the RC's

So in a low impedance injector what would be the best you can get around the 1000 cc range. The lucas's I'm running seem to always have sticking problems on initial startup after any time sitting. I found the below low imp injectors around that range. Not sure who they are made by or what type of pattern they have. Any thoughts?

http://www.maperformance.com/fuel-in...ors-srt-4.html

http://www.t1raceparts.com/
http://www.injectordynamics.com/
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I've been talking to Tony from T1 and I'll be going with 1000ccs. He gave me nothing but great feedback on his experience with these injectors.

you will not be disappointed with tony or the injectors...

Oh definitely not. He built and tuned my friend's RSX to 493 whp on stock internals. I have to admit I got jealous for stock internals. He even got an S2000 to 700+ on stock internals. Makes me feel that my car is lacking something at times. Then I watch both of them blow their transmissions and I'm somewhat satisfied with my car. :lol:

Still going to Steve to build and tune though. :)

O..M...G... I may loose it if i get another PM or email telling me I am wrong

again... it is a modified injector.
it did not start it's life as a 1000cc injector.
it was modified to flow 1000cc...
Did it come that way flowing 1000cc.. NO.
is it available? YES... I know that (I POSTED A VIDEO OF ONE FLOWING FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THE SPRAY PATTERN!!!!!!)

Asking a point blank question:
"Was this saturated injector made by Bosch?... YES...
Ask another question... "Was it made by Bosch to flow 1000cc off their assembly line?" NO...
Ask another... "Was this injector modified so that that it flows 1000cc?"... YES..
It was already eluded to, without directly saying it, by aaron himself in this thread after I was sent a pair for testing and mentioned that it was modified. I also said I figured out what injector was modified and I was not going to tell anyone to protect them. Seeing the amount of injectors day in and day out, it is not that hard to figure out.

Sorry, I am just sick of people emailing and PM'ing me giving me links to where to buy a saturated 1000cc injector... I KNOW THERE IS ONE AVAILABLE FOR CHRIST SAKE!! I POSTED A FRIKKIN VIDEO OF ONE FLOWING!!! All I said was that is was not MADE TO FLOW A GOD DAMN 1000cc BY BOSCH... I know exactly where to get them (pre-modified) wholesale and modify them myself if I wanted to.

There are side feed injectors that flow in the 1300cc range, offered by RC.... were they made to flow that? NO... RC modifies them to flow 1300cc... so, same thing... there is not a saturated side feed 1300cc injector "made"... it was modified.

PLEASE do not email or PM me telling me I am wrong. I am almost sorry I offered to test one and post a video of the flow.
Jesus H...
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RiceFx306, this rant was not directed at you, it just so happened that you were the last person to try to quote what I said and not understand what I was saying. sorry

:lol: No worries...now I get what you mean. I was overeager to share what is new to me. Apologies for the misunderstanding. :icon_tup:

I looked at the yawpower injectors and found that they only make saturated injectors. I am also looking for peak and hold injectors that I will run off FJO driver. I am looking for 750cc and 1600cc or 1680cc. Or so i think.

After reading this thread and seeing the video I would say that the far right had the best pattern. Were can I get a patter like the right injector in the sizes I need?

I guess the question is still open, Who has the best injector accross the board for this cars? Or is it who makes the best injector for thise cars in the different sizes we use?

are you referring to this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MjDsXgQro if so, that is a standard Bosch 160lb injector... you can easily source these

Yes, know how about a 750cc injector for my primaries? the Bosch is a peak and hold as well? Top feed for both.

A 160lb injector is 1680cc...

We have used TLF Performance 1000cc injectors with great success and they are ok priced.

Chris

Just be careful Chris
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=venom they normally use a 190cc and bore the hell out of them. it is very common for them to still have the factory part number on them from many fords and miatas that started their life as less than 200cc injector.

Thanks for the heads up...I'll look into it...

Chris

how do people wire 4 injectors in the LIM with the xcessive LIM?

Wire the secondaries in parallel.

This may come in handy... my Oracle has prophesized six of of the Yaw Power 1000cc in my future...

LOL, when are you bringing the car by?

Shooting to ship it out the third or forth week this month. Just depends on whether I finish my thesis early or not.

Pretty exciting... Lookin forward to the even half-dozen 1000s at 60 psi base FP... That's a whole lot of corn at 20-25 pounds of boost!!

Anyone have any lag settings for these? Anyone tune on them yet...?

^which injectors are you talking about?

what the hell happened to yaw power. i blew up thier phone trying to get these injectors and emailed them to no avail. anyone know anything?

^^Hmmm, not sure what happened? Have you left us voicemails? Sorry about that...

If you're looking to get the Yaw/ID injectors, the best place to call is Tony at T1raceparts.com (214)607-9022 or Glen at AZRR.

But what other info are you looking for?

Yaw Power "Injector Dynamics" I have two for primaries and 4 in the secondary spot. The idle is great but when I step on the throttle it bogs and sputters. I'm playing with some lag times right now but anyone that's done it already could surely save me time. FYI I'm using the Power FC....

When I bought my Yawpower / Injector Dynamics injectors, the vendor also sent me an Excel spreadsheet including all kinds of cool info for each injector including fuel flow vs. pulsewidth vs. pressure, and dead time/ battery offset / lag at different voltages.
The vendor didn't send the spreadsheet until I emailed them to ask about it. This was a while ago so perhaps things may be done differently now.

go here: http://www.t1raceparts.com/1000cc_Bo...r_p/b1000s.htm click on "larger photo" and you will find a pic of the data sheet with all the dead times there.

edit: here's the data...

http://www.t1raceparts.com/v/vspfile.../B1000S-14.jpg

^Unfortunately I have that information already and have no idea how to interpret it. I'm running 43 base fuel pressure, so if you understand the chart please let me know what numbers I need to plug in... :)

These numbers represent the "lag" times (as the PFC describes) at various voltages. These are in microseconds (usec) and i believe the PFC uses milliseconds (ms) so just move the decimal over three places. Enter in the numbers for 43.5psi on the chart for the various voltages. If the PFC only uses one voltage, which would be utterly retarded, enter in the 14V value since that would be where you should be most of the time. i.e. for 43.5psi, 14V lag time would be 980 usec or .98 ms