View Poll Results: Who builds a better engine
ZNperformance (RX7 Store)
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Shook Motorsports
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ZNperformance -VS- Shook Motorsports
#51
you can see the video of the car on the dyno here https://www.facebook.com/pages/ZN-Pe...68791926517155
#52
you can see the video of the car on the dyno here https://www.facebook.com/pages/ZN-Pe...68791926517155
Lets get back to the facts of you using Damaged rotor housing and rotors to build my engine. witch in the pictures you posted of my engine show that. You and your shop ZN performance do horrible horrible engine builds and take people for fools. You have skipped past the questions that myself and others have asked you. Then you try to divert the real problem in question with other claims. when the real issue is not your used parts builds (meaning used rotors) but the junk parts damaged parts used on peoples engines including myself.
Since this thread has started i have received two pm's asking if i was going to sue you over this matter because they want to join in on the law suit. i have asked them to post there issues with your poor quality of work as well. So we can stop people like you that give real rotary shops a bad name.
zavier man up and admit what you did and make it right. I know, you know and NOW everyone knows what you did. you definitely got caught up on this. I hope this helps people understands to stay away from your shop and your engine builds.
#53
Zavier your are clueless, I dont know why you posted a video of my car on a dyno of You tuning it. We have both agreed that you tried tuning my car many many times and failed. You also admit and agree of the amount of hours (100+) you tried tuning my car. Thats not the issue.
Lets get back to the facts of you using Damaged rotor housing and rotors to build my engine. witch in the pictures you posted of my engine show that. You and your shop ZN performance do horrible horrible engine builds and take people for fools. You have skipped past the questions that myself and others have asked you. Then you try to divert the real problem in question with other claims. when the real issue is not your used parts builds (meaning used rotors) but the junk parts damaged parts used on peoples engines including myself.
Since this thread has started i have received two pm's asking if i was going to sue you over this matter because they want to join in on the law suit. i have asked them to post there issues with your poor quality of work as well. So we can stop people like you that give real rotary shops a bad name.
zavier man up and admit what you did and make it right. I know, you know and NOW everyone knows what you did. you definitely got caught up on this. I hope this helps people understands to stay away from your shop and your engine builds.
Lets get back to the facts of you using Damaged rotor housing and rotors to build my engine. witch in the pictures you posted of my engine show that. You and your shop ZN performance do horrible horrible engine builds and take people for fools. You have skipped past the questions that myself and others have asked you. Then you try to divert the real problem in question with other claims. when the real issue is not your used parts builds (meaning used rotors) but the junk parts damaged parts used on peoples engines including myself.
Since this thread has started i have received two pm's asking if i was going to sue you over this matter because they want to join in on the law suit. i have asked them to post there issues with your poor quality of work as well. So we can stop people like you that give real rotary shops a bad name.
zavier man up and admit what you did and make it right. I know, you know and NOW everyone knows what you did. you definitely got caught up on this. I hope this helps people understands to stay away from your shop and your engine builds.
Go ahead an Sue I would love to take you on in court, you still haven't answer the question. How did a junk rotor housing and rotor get in the motor, when you yourself inspected the parts when the motor was built. You have not proven that I put junk parts in there, because I didn't and you know it. This tread is point to more of your on lack of understanding of how a motor works and your bad manifold work. Haha! a bad name I've been working in the rotary business for plus 16 yrs I think my work has been pretty good. You ran that motor for 3 years, and now that you screwed it up you want to blame us for it. I'm posting the video of your car so people can see what you are stating is impossible, those pics let's everyone know. How is a car with 9 corner seals damage, rotor housing and rotor damage, will not even run or make the horsepower and run the quater-mile times you posted.
Your car wouldn't make the horsepower, because of your shitty manifold
#54
That's the sprit zavier keep telling everyone to sue you it will happen. If anyone else decides to sue zavier too. I'm putting it out there send me a pm i'll be more than happy to tell the court of your business ethics, and how you screwed me out of thousands of dollars . Also Tell them how you built my engine with Damaged used parts shitty engine from day one.
Zavier you are a sad person and i'm really glad that everyone will now see you for what you are. Face it you did a **** build and definitely do a **** tune. Mr I have 16yrs experience in building engines. you take no pride in your work or your business skills at all.
Now your asking the consumer to tell you where the damage came from. the mighty zavier Mr.16 yrs of building experience can't figure out. Its very simple you took bad used damaged parts and built my engine, wow that was hard to see. thats why the car didnt make the power. come on zavier who you trying to bullshit a GT4088r at 21+ psi of boost and barely broke over the 400hp mark, with a bridge port engine. plain and simple the car had low compression from day one for obvious reasons in the parts you built it with. Low Compression = low Hp numbers.
I did send those picture to real shops and asked them what could have caused that? If all my apex seals in take not even crack. But at the same time i mentioned you theory of a piece of the manifold broke off and caused the damage. They started laughing and I quote "what a dumb *** thats impossible". So they pointed out a very interesting thing after i sent them the pictures of my engine parts, This is what they said witch sheds a lot of light on this.
that if something did go thru the engine, it would have to have gotten caught up between the rotor and the rotor housing and theres no way the apex seals would have survived. Also the rotors and housing would have the same exact marks across both of them. Clearly they don't and told me flat out those parts are from an engine that was blown up before he built yours and he felt sorry for me. But also state tell that hack to close his shop and leave real engine building to the professionals.
Zavier even if i sue you and walk away with nothing i'm fine with it. In no way is it about the money, its the principal behind what you did to me. but As long as people NOW know what kind of crappy engine builds you do and how your not capable of tuning anyones car. Hopefully i keep one person away from your horrible builds and tune. so you can't screw them like you screwed me and trueimport on are builds. YOu should be ashamed of yourself on what you did. "KARMA"
I will make sure i warn other forums of you as well
Zavier you are a sad person and i'm really glad that everyone will now see you for what you are. Face it you did a **** build and definitely do a **** tune. Mr I have 16yrs experience in building engines. you take no pride in your work or your business skills at all.
Now your asking the consumer to tell you where the damage came from. the mighty zavier Mr.16 yrs of building experience can't figure out. Its very simple you took bad used damaged parts and built my engine, wow that was hard to see. thats why the car didnt make the power. come on zavier who you trying to bullshit a GT4088r at 21+ psi of boost and barely broke over the 400hp mark, with a bridge port engine. plain and simple the car had low compression from day one for obvious reasons in the parts you built it with. Low Compression = low Hp numbers.
I did send those picture to real shops and asked them what could have caused that? If all my apex seals in take not even crack. But at the same time i mentioned you theory of a piece of the manifold broke off and caused the damage. They started laughing and I quote "what a dumb *** thats impossible". So they pointed out a very interesting thing after i sent them the pictures of my engine parts, This is what they said witch sheds a lot of light on this.
that if something did go thru the engine, it would have to have gotten caught up between the rotor and the rotor housing and theres no way the apex seals would have survived. Also the rotors and housing would have the same exact marks across both of them. Clearly they don't and told me flat out those parts are from an engine that was blown up before he built yours and he felt sorry for me. But also state tell that hack to close his shop and leave real engine building to the professionals.
Zavier even if i sue you and walk away with nothing i'm fine with it. In no way is it about the money, its the principal behind what you did to me. but As long as people NOW know what kind of crappy engine builds you do and how your not capable of tuning anyones car. Hopefully i keep one person away from your horrible builds and tune. so you can't screw them like you screwed me and trueimport on are builds. YOu should be ashamed of yourself on what you did. "KARMA"
I will make sure i warn other forums of you as well
Last edited by JustAnother7; 05-01-13 at 08:25 PM.
#55
That's the sprit zavier keep telling everyone to sue you it will happen. If anyone else decides to sue zavier too. I'm putting it out there send me a pm i'll be more than happy to tell the court of your business ethics, and how you screwed me out of thousands of dollars . Also Tell them how you built my engine with Damaged used parts shitty engine from day one.
Zavier you are a sad person and i'm really glad that everyone will now see you for what you are. Face it you did a **** build and definitely do a **** tune. Mr I have 16yrs experience in building engines. you take no pride in your work or your business skills at all.
Now your asking the consumer to tell you where the damage came from. the mighty zavier Mr.16 yrs of building experience can't figure out. Its very simple you took bad used damaged parts and built my engine, wow that was hard to see. thats why the car didnt make the power. come on zavier who you trying to bullshit a GT4088r at 21+ psi of boost and barely broke over the 400hp mark, with a bridge port engine. plain and simple the car had low compression from day one for obvious reasons in the parts you built it with. Low Compression = low Hp numbers.
I did send those picture to real shops and asked them what could have caused that? If all my apex seals in take not even crack. But at the same time i mentioned you theory of a piece of the manifold broke off and caused the damage. They started laughing and I quote "what a dumb *** thats impossible". So they pointed out a very interesting thing after i sent them the pictures of my engine parts, This is what they said witch sheds a lot of light on this.
that if something did go thru the engine, it would have to have gotten caught up between the rotor and the rotor housing and theres no way the apex seals would have survived. Also the rotors and housing would have the same exact marks across both of them. Clearly they don't and told me flat out those parts are from an engine that was blown up before he built yours and he felt sorry for me. But also state tell that hack to close his shop and leave real engine building to the professionals.
Zavier even if i sue you and walk away with nothing i'm fine with it. In no way is it about the money, its the principal behind what you did to me. but As long as people NOW know what kind of crappy engine builds you do and how your not capable of tuning anyones car. Hopefully i keep one person away from your horrible builds and tune. so you can't screw them like you screwed me and trueimport on are builds. YOu should be ashamed of yourself on what you did. "KARMA"
I will make sure i warn other forums of you as well
Zavier you are a sad person and i'm really glad that everyone will now see you for what you are. Face it you did a **** build and definitely do a **** tune. Mr I have 16yrs experience in building engines. you take no pride in your work or your business skills at all.
Now your asking the consumer to tell you where the damage came from. the mighty zavier Mr.16 yrs of building experience can't figure out. Its very simple you took bad used damaged parts and built my engine, wow that was hard to see. thats why the car didnt make the power. come on zavier who you trying to bullshit a GT4088r at 21+ psi of boost and barely broke over the 400hp mark, with a bridge port engine. plain and simple the car had low compression from day one for obvious reasons in the parts you built it with. Low Compression = low Hp numbers.
I did send those picture to real shops and asked them what could have caused that? If all my apex seals in take not even crack. But at the same time i mentioned you theory of a piece of the manifold broke off and caused the damage. They started laughing and I quote "what a dumb *** thats impossible". So they pointed out a very interesting thing after i sent them the pictures of my engine parts, This is what they said witch sheds a lot of light on this.
that if something did go thru the engine, it would have to have gotten caught up between the rotor and the rotor housing and theres no way the apex seals would have survived. Also the rotors and housing would have the same exact marks across both of them. Clearly they don't and told me flat out those parts are from an engine that was blown up before he built yours and he felt sorry for me. But also state tell that hack to close his shop and leave real engine building to the professionals.
Zavier even if i sue you and walk away with nothing i'm fine with it. In no way is it about the money, its the principal behind what you did to me. but As long as people NOW know what kind of crappy engine builds you do and how your not capable of tuning anyones car. Hopefully i keep one person away from your horrible builds and tune. so you can't screw them like you screwed me and trueimport on are builds. YOu should be ashamed of yourself on what you did. "KARMA"
I will make sure i warn other forums of you as well
#56
Que the sinister music!
Personally I find it funny how all you can keep saying or should I say asking is for justanother7 to explain how those parts got into his engine. He's not an engine builder that's why he came to you. Its pretty cut and dry, you put them there. The entire RX7 community would agree that he would have been the one at fault IF the gouges and scored marks lined up from rotor to housing. Neither the front or rear rotor or housings marks match up at all. You've bluntly avoided the fact that you lied right here in this thread and I've been more then happy to point those lies out to you in previous posts. If you have no problem not telling the truth here when confronted then why would you have a problem trying to pull the wool over customers eyes when they aren't there in front of you while you build their engines? The answer is you wouldn't. You've CLEARLY done it to justanother7 and myself and those engines were built YEARS apart. I'm faily confident that there are others too, it's just a matter of time for those to come forth. Hell captainKRM himself stated that the work you preformed on my car was less then acceptable in every sense of the word and that was in reference to the things around your "perfectly built engine".
The long and short of this zavier is rather simple. You are obviously going to defend the work you do and some customers are going to bitch about it. If you don't like it, don't do shotty halfassed work. Top quality shops or companies as a whole care about the quality of work they do and care about customer satisfaction, not tell them to go "F" themselves. Remember he and I are TWO different customers with 6+ years between builds yet you treat the trans actions as one. I for one have not nor will I ever ask you to refund or fix what you did, however, if a few less customers go to you in fear of this happening to them then my rant was worth it's weight in gold.
Personally I find it funny how all you can keep saying or should I say asking is for justanother7 to explain how those parts got into his engine. He's not an engine builder that's why he came to you. Its pretty cut and dry, you put them there. The entire RX7 community would agree that he would have been the one at fault IF the gouges and scored marks lined up from rotor to housing. Neither the front or rear rotor or housings marks match up at all. You've bluntly avoided the fact that you lied right here in this thread and I've been more then happy to point those lies out to you in previous posts. If you have no problem not telling the truth here when confronted then why would you have a problem trying to pull the wool over customers eyes when they aren't there in front of you while you build their engines? The answer is you wouldn't. You've CLEARLY done it to justanother7 and myself and those engines were built YEARS apart. I'm faily confident that there are others too, it's just a matter of time for those to come forth. Hell captainKRM himself stated that the work you preformed on my car was less then acceptable in every sense of the word and that was in reference to the things around your "perfectly built engine".
The long and short of this zavier is rather simple. You are obviously going to defend the work you do and some customers are going to bitch about it. If you don't like it, don't do shotty halfassed work. Top quality shops or companies as a whole care about the quality of work they do and care about customer satisfaction, not tell them to go "F" themselves. Remember he and I are TWO different customers with 6+ years between builds yet you treat the trans actions as one. I for one have not nor will I ever ask you to refund or fix what you did, however, if a few less customers go to you in fear of this happening to them then my rant was worth it's weight in gold.
#57
I'm done with you, as I stated before you where there when we put the engine together, you verify the parts. You keep going with these lies I'm going to sue you for slander and you will pay just me. I have your texts where it show you are a liar about the manifold, I've have built over 20 plus motor this year and they are running great. I should have new to stay away from you, when you bad mouth all the other good shops, or when you bounce the chec to the dyno guy and took 6 months to pay him. He told me to cut ties with you, but I gave you more chances. You and you boy Johnny just keep going with this and watch what I do.
Zavier on a serious note lets get this straight, once and for all you and your shop is a joke a compete hack in your ability to build an honest engine. I never saw the parts you used to build my engine or never inspected them, as if i would let you build me an engine with a bunch of used damaged parts. I have proof in the photos you posted of the damaged parts you used to build my engine with no broken apex seals. Thats not called slander jackass its called proof.
I do hope you come after me please please do. as far as the Dyno guy your full of **** like always, i have never bounced a check to anybody. Show me proof that i ever bounced a check there is none. There you go again trying to divert the real issue of your horrible. show me proof.
unlike you i have proof of the used parts damaged parts that you used to build my engine. That you have posted thank you again for that..zavier bottom line is your pissed because you just got caught. Zavier this whole thing will bite back at you soon. Keep up your great business skills you'll go far in life.
Oh yeah in a earlier post you said myself and true import were going to come out to your shop to have you build are engines, but then we canceled at the last minute. Its because I choose not to be your customer anymore, not that you banned me jackass reread your post again. I realized you a hack and decided not to have you be my rotary shop, I dropped your shop.. I hope this helps everyone else see Zavier for what he is.
Zavier I'm done with you and this post . I proved my case in this matter, but i do have to thank zavier for helping me prove it.
#59
Zavier on a serious note lets get this straight, once and for all you and your shop is a joke a compete hack in your ability to build an honest engine. I never saw the parts you used to build my engine or never inspected them, as if i would let you build me an engine with a bunch of used damaged parts. I have proof in the photos you posted of the damaged parts you used to build my engine with no broken apex seals. Thats not called slander jackass its called proof.
I do hope you come after me please please do. as far as the Dyno guy your full of **** like always, i have never bounced a check to anybody. Show me proof that i ever bounced a check there is none. There you go again trying to divert the real issue of your horrible. show me proof.
unlike you i have proof of the used parts damaged parts that you used to build my engine. That you have posted thank you again for that..zavier bottom line is your pissed because you just got caught. Zavier this whole thing will bite back at you soon. Keep up your great business skills you'll go far in life.
Oh yeah in a earlier post you said myself and true import were going to come out to your shop to have you build are engines, but then we canceled at the last minute. Its because I choose not to be your customer anymore, not that you banned me jackass reread your post again. I realized you a hack and decided not to have you be my rotary shop, I dropped your shop.. I hope this helps everyone else see Zavier for what he is.
Zavier I'm done with you and this post . I proved my case in this matter, but i do have to thank zavier for helping me prove it.
I do hope you come after me please please do. as far as the Dyno guy your full of **** like always, i have never bounced a check to anybody. Show me proof that i ever bounced a check there is none. There you go again trying to divert the real issue of your horrible. show me proof.
unlike you i have proof of the used parts damaged parts that you used to build my engine. That you have posted thank you again for that..zavier bottom line is your pissed because you just got caught. Zavier this whole thing will bite back at you soon. Keep up your great business skills you'll go far in life.
Oh yeah in a earlier post you said myself and true import were going to come out to your shop to have you build are engines, but then we canceled at the last minute. Its because I choose not to be your customer anymore, not that you banned me jackass reread your post again. I realized you a hack and decided not to have you be my rotary shop, I dropped your shop.. I hope this helps everyone else see Zavier for what he is.
Zavier I'm done with you and this post . I proved my case in this matter, but i do have to thank zavier for helping me prove it.
Sal in order to prove Zavier put damaged parts in your engine you would need pics during the build to prove he did so otherwise that manifold is the reason for the damage those groves on the housings and rotor look like something was sucked into the engine
If the apex seals were intact the only possible reason for that kind of damage is something getting into the engine. And while I'm no means of a fabracator that manifold would in fact cause a lack of power and has potential disaster written all over it. Quite frankly if you both want to slug it out go ahead I will say this to the forum however Zn is a rotary performance shop yes sometimes builds take time we all know the RX scene is sadly slowly dying and its up to these shops to keep our cars on the road sal I wish you the best of luck getting your beautiful FD back on the road as for myself I have full confidence is zaviers ability along with all other top rotary shops to keep my FD running for years to come.
#60
Based on what I saw and read, it's is not Low Compression= low HP., but it is Cheap= suck *** car, low quality parts= low HP. I agree with Zavier, if you were there watching him putting your motor together, why did you let him put that sucker Rotors in then? that I find hard to believe, Zavier built my motor and I never have problem with it. He even went out of his way to get me new rotors (3mm) for my car, he even give me his personal clutch,fly wheel, pressure plate for me, because he want to help me with my budged. for that being said, I don't believe Zavier would put you an old piece of **** rotor. With that suck *** weld manifold you have, metal could definitely fall back into your motor, it doesn’t have to fly out of your exhaust and suck it back in, you idiot. When you idle or sit still metal could fall back it, 5 year old would know that. There are reason why you are the customer and Zavier is the professional in rotory, because you don’t know **** about rotary. I’m sorry for being a dick here, but it’s kind of upsetting when you guy talking **** about a person, when that person is a nice guy. Zavier is so good that confuse people when they record my car, see the video here
. For the people out there want to see if ZNperformance can do any work, I vote for them…
#61
GTCboyx7 - let's just say for a minute you are right and that a part did manage to fall off the manifold through the pressure of the exhaust pulse. There are a few things that show it's impossibility of being the cause.
1) the exhaust runners are 2.75" in diameter yet the exhaust ports themselves are only 2" therefore creating a masive lip for the said piece to over come. The chances that the metal bit fell off and hovered inside the port without catching that lip allowing it to enter the engine is beyond slim.
2) not one scratch on either of the rotors or housings match up. If there was a piece of metal that got in, it would have damaged the housing and rotor in line with each other showing relative makings.
3) how could SO much damage be done to the housings and rotors (both front and rear) without a single mark of any kind on the apex seals?
Plan and simple because the parts were damaged prior to this build.
1) the exhaust runners are 2.75" in diameter yet the exhaust ports themselves are only 2" therefore creating a masive lip for the said piece to over come. The chances that the metal bit fell off and hovered inside the port without catching that lip allowing it to enter the engine is beyond slim.
2) not one scratch on either of the rotors or housings match up. If there was a piece of metal that got in, it would have damaged the housing and rotor in line with each other showing relative makings.
3) how could SO much damage be done to the housings and rotors (both front and rear) without a single mark of any kind on the apex seals?
Plan and simple because the parts were damaged prior to this build.
#63
i can in fact tell you this is false and not a 5 year old claim, well not by or towards you though.
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