if they do that, I'm not buying it.

Pettit Racing's one is not accurate.

 

I'm sure they would fix whatevers wrong with the pettit version. In order to do this they have to start with something. Not mention if they started with the RE its not the most accurate either with the waves and passenger side being off.

 

Um it'd be best to start with an oem '99 spec front bumper..
Put fiberglass backing on it so it holds it's shape, then make the mold.

 

Interested
1. Ryan Fritts (fritts)
2. Tony (gohan3rdrift)
3. Tony (Rotor Rage7)
4. Steve (Seppeku)
5. Marc (The Spyder)
6. Blake (btleier)
7. Chad (ChadsrRotor)
8. Zach S. (Zaque)
9. Jeremy (m14socom)

 

geeeeeez you guys wont let it die, is it because you want the hybrid flexible fiberglass? Otherwise buy a pettit... I think he is to busy making aftermarket parts than to make a piece that anyone could buy already at 400 dollars from pettit or raceonusa... he would be stuck with a mold and a bumper worth more than the oem ones and the hype would die and he would be stuck with both bumpers and molds doing nothing but taking up space. Please dont take my opinion as a negative thing, he should be very happy you guys are sticking to him and asking him for parts. maybe one day he will see it as a good idea.

jeff

 

Gentlemen count me in

 

can you not respect the fact that he doesnt want to nor have time to make the 99 plateless and said it wouldnt fit right because its hard to mold off poly!

IF YOU WANT ONE GO TO

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...157571248&rd=1

I am not with raceonusa but they sell quality parts as I've bought some from them in teh past. It would be great if shine offered one, I'd buy from them before anyone but he said they have no plans as of right now.

 

You just posted the urethane bumper I have already. There are issues with it which is why I wanted it done by shine (better fitment). I don't care for Pettit and won't buy their products. Its Shine's loss. A nice plateless 99 spec look is always in demand.

 

Poor fitment thanks for the heads up

 

just let the dream go man, it looks better with the plate holder anyway.

 

The plated bumper looks like a supermodel with a witch's nose.

 

show us detailed pictures, and maybe this is why shine wont make it, you cant make a fiberglass mold off a flexible item, hints urethane.... maybe thats why raceons doesnt fit? Please post pics.

 

Like I said before if urethane is the problem then they could always use the Pettit version to make the mold its fiberglass. Race Ons urethane is RE's bumper you can find all the fitment problems in the exterior interior section. The main issue is the passenger side fitment around the headlight and fender. I have no idea if the Pettit would be a good to copy or not. Doesn't matter anyway this is not something Shine wants to do. I will probably buy a Fuzion or similar bumper and work it untill I get perfect fitment. I am a bit of perfectionist and most say the fitment of my Race On/RE bumper is the best they have seen, just not good enough for me.

Pics on 2nd page
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ight=plateless

 

guys,

the best option is to just buy a real 99 bumper and have a body shop shave off the witch's nose. I have an RE plateless urethane and the body shop fought to get it to fit right. Nevermind the extra $$ that it cost to do it.

My story:
As the project was underway the body shop guy and I had many conversations about the car. I mentioned to him that the bumper was an OEM replica except without this ugly plate holder. He proceeded to tell me that my best option would have been to have gotten the OEM one and have the plate shaved off, then he showed me an mr2 poly bumper where he had just done exactly that. It would have been a much easier, faster, and cheaper.

Check all that I had to go through: Wait and hope for the GB and vendor to agree, enlist on the GB, send in payment, wait for a couple of months just to see a proto, never mind the whole anticipation on an item that I paid in full and hope that it fits properly. After the proto was completed there was an additional wait till my bumper was made and arrived (I think it was like two months), once the bumper arrived took it to a body shop and found out it does not fit like a glove. Though it wasn’t horrible it still wasn’t to my satisfaction. After paying more $$ than the bumper’s original price it finally fit pretty good, almost OEM fitment but not quite. Bottom line: nothing fits better than OEM.

If I would had gone OEM from the get go this would have been my ordeal. Order bumper, and whatever reinforcent pieces it needs (if any). If they are available receive in a few days (opposed to 4 months). Take it to a body shop and have the plate shave off. Cut holes on my rebar (remember bigger blinkers) and install without any issues.

Individually you guys should call up custom shops and ask them if they work on polyurethane. If they do, print out a couple of pics: One with the plate holder and one without. Take them down to the shop and discuss prices, capabilities, wait time. Once you have all of the information that you need make a decision on what you want to do.

Hopefully you guys will take this advice as indeed it is the best way to go. I know that now.

 

Nice post, good advice.

 

That type of modification will always end up cracking. Maybe not in a year but eventually removing the plate and adding material in place will crack. Ask RX-7.com about it, their car shows exactly what happens. Not to mention the costs involved in having a good body shop do the mod. It all comes back to a flexible fiberglass would be the best solution.

 

Not according to my body shop. Question: How do you know that particular body shop did it right? But I'm not a body man so I won't argue that point. But I will take the word of my shop whom they have been customizing cars for years.

frits is obvious you really didn't read my post. Cliff notes: it was all about cost.

but hey I'm not here to argue. I went through it, gained some knowledge, paid $$, and I'm just sharing on my experience. You can either follow my advice or not, I really don't care because at the end of the day it's your $$ not mine . Hope that it all works out for you. Project and $$ wise, just remember though if it doesn't you can't claim ignorance.

 

I did read your post but not everyone you deal with will run you into those kind of problems. Shoot that's why I would like Shine to make this one. 400-500 for a bumper have the same amount of money in it as the oe to fit and prime. Your ahead the how much its gonna cost to modify the oe as well as prime and fit. Also its much more difficult to work with urethane than it is to cleanup fiberglass.

 

I have a perfect fiberglass plateless bumper I just picked up today. Fitment is excellent. I have no idea who made it, but with convincing, I might just donate it to shine to make a mold if they want.

I can even hand deliver.

 

Edited-
sorry dudes wrong thread

 

Shine would be posting if they were wanting to mold the bumper. They have to many projects for this. There is another place (JKL Racing Engineering) that is going to be making molds for the GTC bumper and they showed some interest in making a mold for this bumper. They are also working with a flexible hybrid material.

 

I agree with RedR1

 

im 100% in on the plateless 99spec!! need perfection tho!!! slim to no extra bondo work!!

 

Well, its my experience in life that money talks. Maybe if we got a list of 10 guys that would say pay $700 for a shine eurothane they would be interested, whats it gonna take. Supply and demand, someone make this bumper....please.

 

This Gb won't happen, did you people read Ken's response? And 2nd nothing will fit like oem, so when you DO get your replica 99 spec plateless bumper and it fits like ****. Guess what.. you guys will moan and bitch.