sounds good to me for saturday. I thought the synthetic motor oil was a no no for the rotary since they use the oil injection. Not sure but i hope it works well for you.

Jesse

 

there are a lot more guys running synthetic than you think.

 

Get 'em hooked Marvin. Wished I could run this weekend, but the US Open is consuming all my time this week...sigh.

 

I suspect synth is fine, but fuel usually taints the oil in all the FDs (that I've had a chance to examine or inquire over) long before anything else degrades. I use synthetic oil in our VW and change it 5000-7500 miles. The oil in the FD gets to gassy for my comfort at about 2500 miles and dumping sythetic that early would be wasting money.

If it makes you feel better then go for it, but I don't think it gains you much in the FD. I don't know if its the same for NAs.

 

JOSH!! Check your voicemail and your PMs. LOL grrr.

 

I'm going... How early Sat morning?

If I'm gonna drive to Raleigh I'd like to let the beast cool down before driving another 2 hours... lol

 

i agree for most part. however, if you are running it hard the higher breakdown temp and wider viscosity range of synthetic should yield some advantage. however, for the average person it shouldnt make adifference, and due to the fuel dilution/contamination you should change it every 3000, anyways.

i should have been more clear in my original post. the upshot is that more and more the synthetic taboo is being proven more of a myth than anything else.

hell for me changing oil is every 3000 miles is only twice a year if that. synthetic doesnt separate as quickly as dinosaur so it is better for cars that sit longer. separate is not the right word, but i am talking about the stabilizers,etc which dictate the recommended 3 month period. in other words synthetic is more stable.

at least this is my general and vague understanding of it. i tend to run synthetic, but am not a stickler for it. if i am a little short on money i just put dyno oil in it. it is not like you cant switch back in forth. your car is a machine it isn't going to get its feelings hurt.

 

[QUOTE=Johny zoom]Yeah, there were alot of sevens there last year for it. It doesn't matter to me which you guys would like to do. I'm going to both anyways so if we can let's make a plan, or if just one or two people want to meet up at the races let me know. Me and some friends hang out under the trees between turns 3 and 4 when we're there.

 

Can a former rotorhead come?

 

Running crappy synthetic oil made in 1988 is bad for the rotary. Royal Purple is more than fine in the car.

 

i've seen cars that switched from synthetic to regular and had cotastrophes. they werent rotaries though. if im lucky i might see you guys on the way to VIR if you go by way of 70 to 501 or something since the shop where i work is right beside of 70. look for the white 88 TII a little off 70 before 98 near 85 if thats the way you go.

 

On synthetic oils, yes they weren't recommended for the rotary engine when our cars were in production but that technology has advanced tremendously in the last 10 years. I wouldn't run any syn oil in a rotary but Royal Purple, Redline, and Amsoil are the highest rated syns and RP has the best rating on the qualities a rotary engine can benefit from. I have done a ton of research concerning using syn oil in a rotary and from what I've read RP is one of the few syn oils that is recommended for the rotary engine due to its lubrication qualities and its ability to stand up to the higher temps of rotary engine. It can provide more lubrication to the rotors and seals due to its resistance to thermal breakdown. Beleive me I wouldn't risk any damage to my engine if I had any doubts about the quality of the oil and what happens to it in the engine. If anyone wants to try RP I've got 6 qts left from the case, if not I'll keep'em for my next oil change.

Dave, we'll honk as we pass, what's the name of the business? Glad to hear your back into rotaries and back on the forum. What's Ken up to these days anyway?

Who is going up to VIR this Saturday? Jesse said he was for sure, Josh are you a yes - no - maybe? Bobby mentioned going up for the drive and anyone who needs to put some fun road miles on their cars should plan on the trip. Its a great trip to knock the the critters out and get the rust off the rotors.

And by the way I posted some photos of Saturday's Drive-In on the RRDIs in June thread for anyone interested.

 

Most certainly Lee. Let me know which one if you decide to meet us there or however it works out and I'll keep an eye out for you!

 

what do you guys think of Rotorsports? I heard some really bad **** about them tonight, the people I talked to said the motor I bought from them probally didn't have half the **** down to it that rotorsports said it did, they also told me with my setup that I would get no where near the HP numbers that I was told I would get. They said not to believe a word that comes out of Bryan's mouth, which sucks because I was going to have them tune my Turbo RX-8. Now I don't know who to have do it, who are some other good rotary shops?

Also the VIR event are we aloud out on the track?

 

I have heard several differnt things about rotorsports. I haven't heard of them being that crooked though. From what i have heard, they know there stuff. Josh, Johnny and Rick have both been there so they will be able to tell you first hand. Like everyshop I have heard of, there is always somebody that has had a bad experience. Thats just how it goes with the automotive industry...

 

You can't believe everything you hear or you read. I have never dealt with Bryan, but I know folks that do. Check with Tailhappy ...spelling? Nobody will have a spotless record. You may have to decide for yourself where the truth lies.

 

To get you guys in the VIR state of mind, here is a little clip I made cobbled out of snippets from the Tar Heel club HPDE on VIR-S.

Quicktime
http://theclient.hypermart.net/fortnertrack/VIRsMF.mov

The yellow FD is Fritz Flynn's killer bee and I'm the car waiting for a pass from closing in on the ZR-1. The red Miata blurring by the spun out Viper is Bond007.

 

so what are the details w/ VIR, can we get on the track?

 

Thanks, for a moment there I thought I had been "blackballed". I really hate to part with my FC but it was time to make a change. I thought I wanted the 8 but drove one and decided although it is a great car, it wasn't for me.
Look for me in 05 Honda S 2000 Suzuka Blue.

 

my opinion although i am not a rotary guru is that his advice is pretty sound. i have heard a lot of good things with only a few bad, and generally the bad come down to money(mechanics work ain't cheap), and some have been legitimate. your guy may have had a bad experience, or known some people who did. every business has its naysayers(especially if it is someone else in business doing the same thing). you have to weigh how many good experiences vs. bad ones to get a feel for the overall quality of the business. i am running a rotorsports engine, so is Bert, and a few others around. it is hard to call BS without cracking open the engine. i dont know who your expert is, but unless he has been building engines for a long time. i wouldn't put my money on his advice as being the end all.

i met Bryan and Rusty for the first time this weekend, and have a good opinion of them. Bryan even PMed me to check up with the problem I had, and offered advice. I didn't contact them, he contacted me. With as busy as I know they are, that gave me a warm fuzzy.

they are 100% OK in my book.

 

alright, but be prepared for jokes.

 

i am gonna be working on my car today to see if i can richen my fuel map and work out any other bugs so that I can make it up to VIR with you guys one day this weekend. prob saturday and come back.

 

I have had good experiences so far just thought I would see what you guys thought after what I heard.

 

I agreed with AntiVenom7's comment about Rotorsport. They have far more positive feedbacks then anyone around NC area. Do your search on this forum and you'll find what we meant.

Josh,
Care to give me a ride locally sometime in your car once you take care of your fuel map? I want to get a feel on what my car will feel like after the mod is complete.

 

OK but,please be kind.